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James Hird cross-examined

Bombers return to the Federal Court for day two of hearings into Essendon's controversial supplements program and ASADA's subsequent investigation, Daniel Cherny reports.

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Former Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority chief Aurora Andruska has revealed in court that Essendon was being investigated for the use of performance enhancing drugs as early as 2011 and a specific probe of the Bombers would have gone ahead last year regardless of AFL involvement.

Taking to the witness stand for five hours in the Federal Court trial brought against the anti-doping body by Essendon and James Hird, Ms Andruska said the Bombers had been caught up in a wide-ranging probe into drug use well before the club self-reported on February 5, 2013.

The Bombers leave the MCG after their heavy Elimination Final loss to Carlton in 2011.

The Bombers leave the MCG after their heavy Elimination Final loss to Carlton in 2011. Photo: Pat Scala

Ms Andruska made the revelation while she was being cross-examined by the Essendon lawyer, Neil Young, QC.

"ASADA had an investigation which had been under way since 2011, broader than the Essendon Football Club," she said.

This investigation included other sports allegedly using performance-enhancing drugs, she said.

Essendon's 2012 season launch at Etihad Stadium, 8 November 2011.

Essendon's 2012 season launch at Etihad Stadium, 8 November 2011. Photo: Paul Rovere

"In 2011, we were getting information about performance-enhancing drugs. We were taking samples, blood and urine samples, freezing them, waiting for them to be tested."

Ms Andruska said the samples had been sent to a laboratory in Cologne, Germany, to be tested.

The Bombers' supplements program under former sports scientist chief Stephen Dank began in late 2011.

Aurora Andruska.

Aurora Andruska. Photo: Ken Irwin

It emerged recently through AFL chief medical officer Dr Peter Harcourt that the AFL had concerns about the Bombers in 2011 and samples had been sent to Cologne in 2012 to be tested.

The laboratory had the capability to test for peptide hormones. The tests were negative.

Despite this, Ms Andruska said ASADA was "encouraged enough" to continue the investigation.

Ms Andruska said the anti-doping body would have investigated the club last year regardless of whether the Bombers had self-reported under the guidance of then club chairman David Evans. Hird has maintained he opposed the club self-reporting.

"That investigation was going ahead regardless of what David Evans said. ASADA would have taken an investigation irrespective of any co-operation from the AFL," Ms Andruska said.

During her testimony, Ms Andruska also insisted the Australian Crime Commission had not tipped off former AFL chief Andrew Demetriou or his then deputy, Gillon McLachlan, at a January 31, 2013, meeting in Canberra, in which she said she attended only as an observer.

Ms Andruska said the AFL had repeatedly asked which club the ACC was investigating. She said Mr Demetriou had again asked ACC chief John Lawler even as they shook hands and left the room.

"It's Essendon, isn't it?" Mr Demetrou allegedly said to Lawler.

Mr Lawler replied: "I am not going to comment on that."

Mr Demetriou has denied later tipping off Mr Evans on the night of February 4 about what he had been told in the ACC briefing. He was also cleared of an illegal action by the ACC.

During that meeting in Canberra, Ms Andruska said she was "surprised" that the AFL knew as much as it did.

Hird and the Bombers allege that the joint investigation by the AFL and ASADA last year into the club's supplements program was unlawful because the anti-doping body worked outside of its powers.

During her two hours in the witness box before the parties adjourned for lunch - she woud also spend the entire afternoon being cross-examined - Ms Andruska said the "language of joint investigation" had not been used between the parties.

In one response to Mr Young, she replied: "That suggests the investigation was being led by the AFL - that's wrong. It's an ASADA investigation."

Ms Andruska was questioned heavily about what information the anti-doping body gave the AFL to use in its case-managed database.

"To be most effective we had to use the AFL's powers. That was consistent with previous investigations," she said.

Asked to clarify this later, she said the investigation had been with another code and before her time in charge.

Ms Andruska was also asked about the political pressure she had felt to come to a quick resolution in the Essendon investigation.

"I ignored all political pressure," she said.

In the Bombers' and Hird's submission, it had emerged that former prime minister Julia Gillard had wanted a quick resolution, with her party worried the probe would negatively impact on its re-election chances.

Justice John Middleton, however, said the political line of questioning had no relevance.

Ms Andruska was also questioned about how the investigation was termed in the interim report used by the AFL to sanction the Bombers.

She said her focus, however, had been on anti-doping issues and not on how the AFL had wanted to sanction the club - if it was found to have breached its laws.

Earlier on Tuesday, the court heard that lawyers for Essendon, Hird and ASADA had agreed to refer to a statement of facts related to briefings that anti-doping officials gave to Essendon players and staff.

ASADA lawyer Daniel Star on Monday said that one of Essendon's solicitors, Tony Hargreaves, had made a covert recording of one of the briefings and that Essendon wanted to use the transcript as evidence. Neil Young, QC, said Mr Hargreaves was entitled to record the briefing for note-taking purposes.

On Tuesday, Mr Star said the parties had reached a compromise and that the transcript would not be tendered as evidence, and that lawyers would instead refer to a statement of facts.

Mr Young called on Mr Star to apologise for what he said about Mr Hargreaves' conduct.

Justice Middleton said there was no reason to believe that Mr Hargreaves had acted improperly.