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Departing Pies miss award night

On the way out: Dale Thomas and Heath Shaw.

On the way out: Dale Thomas and Heath Shaw. Photo: Pat Scala

A selfishness had crept into Collingwood which was why the club had acted so aggressively this off-season with changes that had been made to the list and more broadly about the club, club president Eddie McGuire.

"A pervasiveness of selfishness has crept into our club," McGuire told the Copeland Trophy dinner, which was not attended by Dale Thomas and Heath Shaw, who are both poised to leave the club.

Collingwood coach Nathan Buckley said on- and off-field issues had cost the club a chance at success this year.

"We had the necessary talent to contend but this year we beat ourselves. It can't happen again and we are putting everything in place to make sure it doesn't," he said.

"Our player turnover this year has been a much publicised topic of conversation but it highlights a few brutal realities of the game: first, it does not last forever, not for any of our heroes," said Buckley, again in a reference to Alan Didak, Darren Jolly, and soon, Shaw and Thomas.

"The club will always be bigger than the individual - players, coaches, the administrators come and go. The club comes first and we are making strategic decisions with that in mind."

McGuire said: "We won in 2010 by being side by side by doing everything required to win. Side by side means being that always, not while you are being supported but then turning your back when it doesn't suit.

"We know football is lucrative these days ... this club demands the highest standards, attitudes and application. Any form of selfishness will not be tolerated. It is about Collingwood first and only.

"It is not compulsory to play for the Collingwood Football Club, it is now compulsory to play the Collingwood way - selfless, dedicated and side by side.

"Since our demise in this year's finals it has not been a contented place at theWestpac Centre, the burning desire to atone has consumed us. All clubs must face the reality that time comes for all, including favourites and champions, and so we say goodbye to some this year."

Scott Pendlebury won his second Copeland Trophy, with Dane Swan running second and Steele Sidebottom third.

COLLINGWOOD BEST & FAIREST
1 Scott Pendlebury 192
2 Dane Swan 155
3 Steele Sidebottom 133
4 Travis Cloke 108
5 Harry O'Brien 101
6 Brent Macaffer 76
7 Marley Williams 70
8 Heath Shaw 69
9 Nathan Brown 61
10 Jamie Elliott 59

OTHER AWARDS
VFL best and fairest
Kyle Martin

Best clubman
Scott Pendlebury

Best first-year player
Josh Thomas

Goalkicking award
Travis Cloke

Leading desire indicators
Jarryd Blair

Best finals player
Dane Swan

Magpie Army player of the year
Dane Swan.

107 comments so far

  • Perhaps Eddie shouldn't have replaced a premiership coach with one of the most selfish players to have pulled on a jumper. The demise of Collingwood appears to have started the minute he took over.
    Fall on your sword Eddie, the fish rots from the head.

    Commenter
    Ghost of David Rhys-Jones
    Date and time
    October 05, 2013, 7:12AM
    • Um, about time people stopped spewing out this tired old line. The premiership coach, a mature adult, agreed to terms. If some players were not mature enough to accept and move on then so be it, they can wear another colour jumper. Now it's been two years, please try and find something more original to say if you are going to pen your hatred of the Collingwood Football Club. Funny how most expert, non judgemental football and sporting annalists hold Nathan Buckley in the highest regard both for his football knowledge and his decency as a person.

      Commenter
      Jennifer
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      October 05, 2013, 7:32AM
    • Totally agree with all your words, Ghost of David Rhys-Jones. It would seem all those outside of the Pies can see that however the die hard supporters of everything about the club will continue lauding Eddie and Bucks right down to the bottom of the ladder. They had a potential premiership team under Malthouse and now it is, bit by bit, falling apart.

      Commenter
      Grahame
      Date and time
      October 05, 2013, 7:45AM
    • Jennifer, the reason all the so called non judgemental football annalists you refer to give Buckley credit is because he presents well at post game interviews, unlike Malthouse he dose not give them a hard time if he dislikes the question popped to him. What Buckley is bereft of though is inter-personal skills and he has not got a clue about coaching. What was his catch cry when he was running around on the football field as a very dominating captain? "Kick it to me, kick it to me."

      Commenter
      Trashman
      Date and time
      October 05, 2013, 7:55AM
    • Trashman
      Buckley: Receives 20000. Hard ball gets 0. And I have very clear memories of him abusing team mates when he called for the ball and wasn't given it! Yes selfishness is very damaging to a team.

      Commenter
      fred
      Date and time
      October 05, 2013, 8:30AM
    • Trashman, your name says it all. Not lauding Eddie or Bucks just given a more reasonable point of view with some fact thrown in for good measure. You would know about Bucks' inter-personal skills would you? Seems funny how people can make these statements based on the actions of a couple of players when there are another 40 or so on the senior list who do not seem to have a problem with Bucks. If you looked any further before made your uninformed comments you may even discover a number of players who have thanked Bucks for what he has done for them. But don't let the facts get in the way of a good bagging. I am sure Bucks is not perfect and has still a lot to learn and improve on in his coaching and I am pretty sure he would be the first to admit it.

      Commenter
      Jennifer
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      October 05, 2013, 8:39AM
    • Spite, hypocrisy and narcissism is what has always defined Carlton - long may it continue - looks like it will.

      Commenter
      Footy fan forever
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      October 05, 2013, 9:07AM
    • Agreed and I'm a big pie fan. Buckley is busy saying "The club will always be bigger than the individual - players, coaches, the administrators come and go. The club comes first". So, why didn't he put the club first in 2011, kill the speculation and say you know what, for the good of the club, I'm happy to renegotiate the contract and start coaching say 2013 or 2014 depending on how we go. At least give Mick a chance with the playing line-up that he built to snag another flag. For about a 14 month period from July 2010, Collingwood were THE dominant team in the AFL. I had never seen that in my long lifetime- even in '90, we were only dominant over the last 3 weeks or so of the year. We were minor premiers 2 years in a row in 2010/11. But no, it was Buckley who was too selfish! He just had to be the boss.

      Commenter
      Peta McKenna-Daicos
      Location
      Lulie Street
      Date and time
      October 05, 2013, 9:09AM
    • what exactly is an annalist?

      Commenter
      peter
      Location
      coogee
      Date and time
      October 05, 2013, 9:09AM
    • Jennifer - are you related to Bucks? What are the names and addresses of those who have thanked Buckley for what he has done for them? I am sick of seeing Buckley bag the players after each loss. He has only one game plan and if that goes wrong he has nothing up his sleeve.
      He has been outcoached many times this year - notably in the elimination final by Ken Hinkley - a first year coach. Finally just because people have been talking about concerns regarding Buckley for two years doesn't make those concerns any less valid. It just means that the concerns are still there. Eddie made a mistake in engaging Buckley. It's always everyone's fault but his. Surely the exodus of administration, coaching and playing staff indicates something is amiss. That the whole club seems to need to undergo a huge change of key personnel just so that Buckley can coach seems very destabilising and extremely frustrating for supporters. Bucks has used up his chances as a coach with me. He is always well presented on tv and may well be a nice person but he is a lousy coach. If he were not "one of the boys" many footy commentators would be saying the same thing. He needs to go.

      Commenter
      BC
      Date and time
      October 05, 2013, 9:25AM

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GWS vs SYD 14:10Spotless Stadium
GCF vs ESS 16:35MS
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NTH vs WBU 16:35ES
ESS vs RIC 19:20MCG
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STK vs SYD 15:20ES
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HAW vs CAR 00:00MCG
GEE vs ADE 00:00SS
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Hawthorn 5 3 2 0 149.86 12
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