David Rhys-Jones jokes he spent half of his football life in the ''Hall of Shame''. For a man who is the most reported player in VFL-AFL history, having been charged 25 times, there is some truth to that.
But due recognition for the fine wingman and utility that he was - not to mention a Norm Smith medallist at centre half-back on Hawthorn's Dermott Brereton in the 1987 premiership - came when he was inducted into Carlton's Hall of Fame at the club's season launch on Wednesday night.
Rhys-Jones, 50, was humbled by the honour; so too was another Blues great in Geoff Southby, 62, who was elevated to legend status.
''I suppose it's recognition of the good things you have done,'' Rhys-Jones said. ''I have spent half of my life in the Hall of Shame, so to get on the other side of the fence and be recognised is a good thing.''
No highlights package of the 1980s is complete without footage of Rhys-Jones involved in a stoush, whether in 76 games - mainly as a wingman - with South Melbourne/Sydney between 1980 and 1984, or as a utility through 106 games with the Blues between 1985 and retiring in 1992.
It was a different era, a time when footballers more often than not required boxing skills, and Rhys-Jones dished out as good as he received, the latter most notably from Greg Williams, who was then a Swan, and Collingwood's Denis Banks. ''I do often say that while I did get reported quite a number of times, I copped a lot better ones than I ever dished out,'' he said. ''That was just part and parcel of it. I suffered from blurred vision at times from head knocks, they were a hindrance when you were playing.''
But, unlike Williams, Rhys-Jones, who in his autobiography said there were suspicions players in the 1980s were on anabolic steroids, says these knocks have not affected his life post football, other than a sore neck from time to time. He is remembered for his temper, a point that can grate.
''To a certain extent but you can't hide behind the facts, can you? What's the old saying? You pay for the crimes you have committed. That is part and parcel of it. You get remembered for certain things along those lines.
''If it wasn't for that [Hall of Fame induction], I suppose you would be introduced as that mug who got reported 25 times.
''At least that [shows] you could play as well.''
That he could. He was named the finals player of 1986 by the now-defunct Sunday Press, despite watching Gary Ayres win the Norm Smith Medal when the Hawk surprisingly manned him on a wing. Rhys-Jones had destroyed the Hawks in the Blues' second semi-final a fortnight earlier.
''After the … '86 grand final, I was called 'Smithy' all day at mad Monday because I played on the Norm Smith medallist,'' Rhys-Jones said.
''The next year all I did was square the ledger I suppose.''
He did that when coach Robert Walls stunned the football world by sending him to centre half-back on Brereton.
''Dermott was probably a player that suited me as a centre half-forward,'' Rhys-Jones said. ''I couldn't have played on a [Stephen] Kernahan type, he was just too tall and strong.
''Dermott was around the same height, although he had a lot more bulk than I did.''
Southby, already inducted into the Hall of Fame, played between 1971 and 1984 and was arguably the finest full-back of the 1970s.
He won best and fairests in his first two seasons and was central to the 1972 and 1979 premierships.
Southby said he relished playing in one of the loneliest positions.
''There was a spot there,'' he said. ''It was around the time Wes Lofts had just retired.
''I wanted to take it on and see how I could pit myself against some of the good full-forwards of my time - McKenna, Hudson, Wade.''