GWS pushed aside the challenge of Lance Franklin's Swans.

GWS pushed aside the challenge of Lance Franklin's Swans. Photo: Getty Images

On Saturday, history of sorts was made, the Giants and Suns winning together for the first time in any round, let alone on the same day.

It was a big victory for the architects of an even broader national competition. Conversely, it also appeared to be the signal for a collective outpouring of angst from the naysayers that had AFL as we know it coming to a sorry end. How far do you think the two newest clubs will get in 2014?

Other topics you may want to discuss:

Is the best of Buddy Franklin behind him? (Matthew Lloyd thinks so).

Is Collingwood gone?

Who likes Sunday night footy?

Should Carlton re-sign Mick Malthouse?

Discuss the footy issues that matter to you with The Age's voice of the people, from 12 noon Monday. Leave your comments below or return at midday to chat live.