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'No excuses' vows Hawk

The last victory... overjoyed Hawthorn supporters hug Lance Franklin after Hawthorn defeated Geelong in the grand final of 2008.

The last victory... overjoyed Hawthorn supporters hug Lance Franklin after Hawthorn defeated Geelong in the grand final of 2008. Photo: Craig Sillitoe

Hawthorn is not interested in talk of rivalry or curses, it is simply sick of being beaten by the team that now stands between it and the grand final, according to club president Andrew Newbold.

Newbold insists the club has no excuses heading into Friday night's preliminary final, having had a week off and a fully fit side to choose from.

''You cannot have a great rivalry if you get beaten 11 times in a row, that is not a rivalry,'' Newbold said on Sunday.

Hawthorn president Andrew Newbold.

Hawthorn president Andrew Newbold. Photo: Pat Scala

''We are not interested in talking about a rivalry with Geelong. We are sick of being beaten by them. It's more what we bring to the game and our attitude and our intensity than anything they do.

''We have got no excuses. We have basically a full list and we have had a week off - there is no excuse for us. And I would be saying that afterwards if we were to lose - there are no excuses.''

It was a sentiment echoed by club great Dermott Brereton, who said that for the first time in the 12 meetings between the teams since Hawthorn's 2008 grand final win over the Cats, the encounter was on the Hawks' terms, not Geelong's.

''Of all the times they have played Geelong … and the 11 losses, this is on Hawthorn's terms with the team they want, the backmen they want, the list they want and they actually have to leave players out. And they have had the week off,'' Brereton said.

Implicitly accepting the club had fallen for the idea of the Geelong rivalry in the past, Newbold said discussions about close games in sport often created self-fulfilling prophecies, but there was no reason to believe that would be the case here.

''It's all well and good for the media to have a field day talking about the Kennett curse, but I can tell you one thing, we are not enjoying it, we are sick of losing and they are just the side that stand between us and what we ultimately want,'' he said.

''It could have been Port Adelaide or Fremantle. It turns out it is Geelong. They are just another side; they are the side standing between us and what we want. And that is all they are.

''We might yet get beaten. We are not saying it is not hard, we understand that because they are a good side, but we do not need to promote the notion that everyone seems to fall in love with that, 'can Hawthorn be beaten 12 times in a row?' That's not interesting to us. What is interesting to us is that Geelong stands between us and what we play the game for.''

Newbold said the only results against Geelong to matter were the losses this year, because personnel changed every year.

He said in both the 2013 losses, Hawthorn had played poorly yet still almost won. ''That showed what happens if we do not bring our A game and intensity with us. It's about us, not about them.

''I heard Joel Selwood saying they are the underdog and Chris Scott saying something similar; we are not interested in that. You won't hear us talking them up and talking us down. It is not in our vocabulary. They are a good side and so are we. I do not care what Joel Selwood or Chris Scott thinks.''

34 comments so far

  • Funny how he is not interested in "any of that",but he states that they may yet be beaten again by the Cats.....strange that.If I were Andrew,I would be talking my team up and putting the pressure back on the opposition.Our boys will just turn up to play,give it our best shot and what ever happens will happen.This curse as they call it,seems to afflict anyone associated with Hawthorn continuing to dismiss it and telling anyone that listens that they don't believe in such nonsense and this will be the time they will beat us.I will be happy if our boys acquit themselves well in the game and give their best,that's all you can ask for.LET THE MIND GAMES BEGIN,because that's where the problem lies for Hawthorn and everyone associated with them.

    Commenter
    Rob Bradley
    Date and time
    September 16, 2013, 7:28AM
    • Awesome! Go Hawks!

      Commenter
      Stop changing the rules
      Date and time
      September 16, 2013, 8:16AM
    • Sounds like Newbold has screwed himself in the head already and thought through losing, Buddy going to GWS and the on-going curse. Best he bunker down and not make any more public comments. I hope they lose.

      Commenter
      Peter
      Location
      Go Freo
      Date and time
      September 16, 2013, 9:53AM
    • That's the very thing Rob, your not Andrew Newbold, you're a number plate stamper from Darwin, so let him have his say and read it for what it is. That is Hawthorn are going in saying if they lose, they only have themselves to blame, yet if Geelong lose, no doubt you will find some reason other than Hawthorn were better than Geelong, just like in the 08 GF. Time for you to go and eat another crocodile.....

      Commenter
      Will Turner
      Date and time
      September 16, 2013, 10:01AM
    • @ROB....Yep couldn't agree with you more there Rob...I for one as a HAWTHORN supporter am just sick to death of all the talk & excuses continually thrown up by Clarko & the Boys pre & post game....Just wish they'd keep their traps shut and let their ACTIONS do the talking for once...Now that would be a nice change! TALK IS CHEAP HAWKS...KEEP you traps shut because HAWTHORN supporters are sick of PAPER TIGERS! GROW up and start delivering on the field where it MATTERS!

      Commenter
      procrastinator
      Date and time
      September 16, 2013, 11:49AM
  • Everything is on the line for hawthorn Friday night. Should they lose, they should clean out the club. Let Buddy walk. They've never been as well placed as right now to end the streak. If they don't, they are obviously a mentally weak club.

    Let's hope Geelong push it to 12 so we can all enjoy watching hawthorn eat itself.

    Vote 1: Kennett Curse

    Commenter
    Wes Mantooth
    Date and time
    September 16, 2013, 8:07AM
    • @WEE MANTOOTH...YOU ARE A VERY NAUGHTY BOY....2008 STILL STINGS THAT MUCH HUH?????

      HOPE THE CATS COME OUT ALL ARROGANT & OVER_CONFIDENT JUST LIKE THEY DID AGAINST FREMANTLE!!!!!!....

      ALL GEELONG SUPPORTERS HAVE GOT WHATS COMING TO THEM...THE KARMA BUS IS ABOUT TO DUMP ALL OVER THE PUSSIES....

      VOTE 1 KARMA BUS...HEHEHE!

      Commenter
      prcrastinator
      Date and time
      September 16, 2013, 8:28PM
  • Ok I have booked my psychologist for Friday afternoon and just purchased my cyanide pill.
    I am ready.

    Commenter
    Captain Grumpy
    Location
    Kingsville
    Date and time
    September 16, 2013, 8:14AM
    • 'I heard Joel Selwood saying they are the underdog and Chris Scott saying something similar; we are not interested in that. You won't hear us talking them up and talking us down. It is not in our vocabulary. They are a good side and so are we. I do not care what Joel Selwood or Chris Scott thinks

      I would suggest the feeling's mutual, so I'm not too sure what these empty words mean. This time, it's not 'talking up and talking down', it's a fact. Hawthorn have played better this year, they have a full list, they have had a week off. Facts are that the odds will be very much in their favour.

      Suits me. I'd hate to go into this game being the favourite and lose.

      Commenter
      bornagirl
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      September 16, 2013, 8:17AM
      • I think you'll find Chris Scott's comments were meant primarily for the media. Look at what happened in the week leading up the Cats v Freo clash at KP. The Geelong Advertiser was doing its damndest to rile things up and it backfired spectacularly. I interpret it as Scotty saying the media can just back the hell off and leave both teams to their preparation in relative peace.

        Commenter
        blu
        Location
        Geelong
        Date and time
        September 16, 2013, 9:29AM

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