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Pies loss begins to bite battling Blues

Carlton's Brock McLean Chris Judd, Marc Murphy and Levi Casboult after the loss to Collingwood at the MCG in round 15.

Carlton's Brock McLean Chris Judd, Marc Murphy and Levi Casboult after the loss to Collingwood at the MCG in round 15. Photo: Sebastian Costanzo

It was predicted that the club which lost the round 15 blockbuster between Carlton and Collingwood would face heavy scrutiny. The Blues can now vouch for the accuracy of that prognostication.

Blues powerbroker Bruce Mathieson this morning criticised the management and recruiting of his club, saying the club had to "look at itself" after its 42-point defeat left the Blues two games out of the eight in a year it expected to compete for the premiership after sacking Brett Ratten and hiring three-time flag-winner Mick Malthouse.

Carlton's Mitch Robinson battles with Collingwood's Marley Williams at the MCG. Click for more photos

Round 15: Carlton v Collingwood

Collingwood recovered from a slow start against Carlton to run away with the match 17-16-118 to 12-5-77 at the MCG. Photographs by Age photographer Sebastian Costanzo. Photo: Sebastian Costanzo

"Everything comes right from the management of the club. And the thing is, whether you like it or not, you’ve got to look at yourself…" Mathieson told SEN radio Tuesday morning.

"There’s only two hard words in any language, Yes or no. Have we done a good job? Are we where we should be? And the answer is no.
And its about time we looked at ourselves and said we’ve got to do things a lot better than we’re doing."

Mathieson's words came after Carlton coach Mick Malthouse apologised to Blues fans for his team's disappointing performance against its arch-rival Collingwood last Friday night at the MCG.

Malthouse issued a video message on Carlton’s website and invited fans to a training session and barbeque at their Visy Park training ground on Tuesday. The Blues fell by 41 points to the Magpies after coughing up a 28-point first-quarter lead. Post-match Malthouse lashed the team, describing it as their worst game of the season.

"I’m terribly sorry about the weekend, we produced our worst game for the year," Malthouse said in the video message.

"You’d love to know why but I guess that’s human nature and we have to work through that and find out why and do something about it."

Malthouse said he hoped the team showed more spirit to win the remaining games and invited the fans to an open training session and barbeque as a pat on the back for their support.

Malthouse might be relieved that pokies mogul Mathieson does not have him in his sights.

"I’m not blaming the coach at all, in any way shape or form. He can only deal with the stock that he’s got.

"Our problem is our recruiting staff has been there for many years. They’ve had plenty of time to bring on these players. It hasn’t happened.

"So we have to do a lot of internal stuff first in my opinion.

"I’d be happy to dispute it with anyone that we’ve done a good job.

"There’s a lot of people … in positions getting paid a lot of money and they’re certainly not bringing the results."

He said high draft picks such as Matthew Kreuzer and Bryce Gibbs had not "come on", and the Blues did not compare favourably with the league's pacesetters.

"How many of our players… would fit into say Geelong … position for position. Would they take their player out and put our player in?

"I don’t know if there would be any".

Mathieson wants change.

"I just think it’s time and I’ve been saying it for a long time, people are getting paid to do a job and if it was your business you’ve got to make changes and we haven’t made changes for years.

"You’ve only got to look at other teams, and you look at Geelong, Hawthoen, they seen to be able to pick players – the same as Sydney –  when we can’t seem to get players.

"They haven’t had first choices and all the things that we’ve had, yet they’re still up there, their reserves are up there. None of ours are there. You have to say that something is wrong."

On Monday night and Tuesday morning, the inquest into Carlton's performance and standing - it is 11th on the ladder two games out of the eight - continued in the media.

Age analyst Rohan Connolly wrote that "again for Carlton, the list and the formula, is falling short".

SEN's Anthony Hudson was critical of the club for not providing spokespersons for weekend media shows, comparing Carlton's silence unfavourably to rivals Essendon and Collingwood, whose coaches fronted up to discuss losses, enabling their clubs to direct the narrative surrounding their failures.

"Looking at their list... they are in some trouble..." he added.

On The Couch panellist Mike Sheahan said he wouldn't be surprised if midfield superstar Chris Judd did not play on after this season.

Channel Nine's Matthew Lloyd said on Footy Classified that Carlton's best players "won't be in their next premiership", saying the club had passed its 'premiership window'.

Host Garry Lyon said ruckman Matthew Kreuzer played "inoffensive" football, letting the game roll by him, and he questioned the output of small forwards Chris Yarran, Eddie Betts and Jeff Garlett.

with AAP

29 comments so far

  • I'm wallowing in schadenfreude - just can't seem to get enough.

    Date and time
    July 09, 2013, 12:13PM
    • Carlton's list has been over rated for years, they got conned on who were the 1st pick in the draft 3 times. Woefull

      Date and time
      July 09, 2013, 12:52PM
      • Been saying for years our recruiting has been shambolic. Wayne Hughes in particular who has overseen most of it should have been let go years ago. Some of the decisions in the draft the last few years has one scratching their heads. And to be honest, whilst Juddy has been a fantastic member of the team and gave the blues a great spark at the time, I think that trade is coming back to bite the blues on the behind. Put Josh Kennedy, pick 3(Masten or even Dangerfield), and pick 20(Scott Selwood) into that team, the whole dynamic changes.

        Date and time
        July 09, 2013, 12:56PM
        • I agree Tez, we needed something positive and we went the short term option and we accepted a culture of mediocrity into the place.
          Recruitment? We've known it to be a joke for years..
          The List: To many sub par second tier player who've not stepped up, not entirely recruitments fault! And one Rolls Royce who's unable to break out and bring others with him, BG..
          The Team Ethos: We're not hungry for a flag!!! It's that simple, most guys are pretty happy to be playing for the CFC!! Playing for the CFC means success, winning flags, that's what we do!!
          The coach: I belive we've made the right choice, it's up to the 44 players (superstars incl) playing under him to step up or P--- Off..
          Mick, if you're listening, Scotty is a superstar.. He, Carrotts and Simo have been our heart soul.. get him back to his best!!

          Date and time
          July 09, 2013, 5:31PM
      • Since Mick left the pies and there were calls from Carlton supporters to begin operation "Get Mick", Carlton and its supporters have been quite amusing to follow.. last year it was the coach who was the problem - replace him and a premiership will come... this year its the recruiters and player list that's the problem - replace them and a premiership will come.. but hang on, didn't Mick say earlier this year the list had the potential to win a premiership? Seems like no one at Carlton has a clue what is going on, whether they have been there for 1 minute or a decade.. they just shoot their mouths off expecting premierships to fall into their laps! Mathieson is no different! The blues may have 16 premierships, but their last one was in 1995, 18 years ago - nothing but a very distant memory! Since then what have they done? nothing, they have won more wooden spoons this century than finals.. And there is no premiership windows on the horizon for the poor old blues, looks like they will continue to go backwards.. Mick Malthouse at Carlton is the Malcolm Blight of St Kilda... i will continue to follow these stories with amusement.. GO PIES!!! Bucks - 2, Mick - 0. WWHHHAAAAAAA!

        Date and time
        July 09, 2013, 1:09PM
        • This couldn't be more true... i also remember a very recent article by the so called "great" Robert Walls in this very paper, outlining that Carlton can start dreaming of premierships.... what ever happened with that dream anyway?? LOL!!

          GO PIES!!!
          Date and time
          July 09, 2013, 3:07PM
        • We can always guarantee a comment from some a Collingwood Supporter with a Nelson Munce equivalent IQ and and Nelson Munce equivalent response.

          Seriously "iwataki", is your learned and reasoned response of "WWHHHAAAAAAA" the best you can do?

          Date and time
          July 09, 2013, 4:11PM
        • 1990 to 2010 That's 20 years of waiting for Collingwood supporters to see another flag and it was a 32 year wait after 1958, so I wouldn't exactly suggest Collingwood are the bench mark for consistent performances - unless you want to talk about losing Grand Finals..... they have that statistic all to them selves.

          Date and time
          July 09, 2013, 4:19PM
        • Michael... are you too unintelligent to respond to anything else I wrote except "whaa"? What's the matter, truth hurts or something?! And as for you "stats" clearly you missed the point, im talking about recent history, not what happened 50 years ago when the players and people running the club are no longer there.. 50 years ago carlton may have been successful but not now.. they are a basket case.. the way carlton are heading all those carlton supporters that used to bag collingwood about the drought of premierships have nothing to say except refer to "back in the day"... enjoy your future as a carlton supporter with no success! So both you and michael can suck it up... WHHHAAAA! Hahaha

          Date and time
          July 09, 2013, 6:09PM
        • And for the record genius its nelson muntz... not munce... dumbass.. typical uneducated Carlton supporter response

          Date and time
          July 09, 2013, 6:12PM

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