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AS BRENDON Goddard continues to weigh up his future, clubs and player managers have begun to peruse the fine print of free agency, officially beginning on Monday.

Goddard took part in grand final week activities at Federation Square yesterday, but opted not to speak publicly about whether he will accept St Kilda's offer or pursue what is expected to be a four-year deal from Essendon.

Geelong and Fremantle, now out of the race for Travis Cloke, are also interested in the classy utility.

Up in the air: Brendon Goddard.

Up in the air: Brendon Goddard. Photo: Sebastian Costanzo

Goddard has yet to decide whether to quit the Saints but will make his intentions clear early next week.

Only then will the Saints know what they will have to match if they want to keep the restricted free agent.

Under free agency rules, Goddard can only submit his best offer from a rival club for the Saints to match.

The Saints have so far offered a three-year deal worth about $1.9 million. Goddard wants a four-year contract and can expect a pay rise if he were to leave.

AFL salary cap manager Ken Wood and operations manager Adrian Anderson distributed separate documents to clubs this week outlining free agency rules, compensation and adjustments to the veterans' allowance.

Clubs and agents already believe there could be loopholes in the system.

Agents and football managers have also seen for the first time what are known as a ''form 41'' and ''form 42'' that clubs and free agents must sign.

Restricted free agents must sign a form 41 confirming a bid from a rival club. The player's club has three days to decide whether to match the offer, consisting of football payments and additional services agreements, or let the player leave.

If the player does not accept the matching offer, he will have to nominate for the draft or be open to a trade. In the document, Anderson tells clubs: ''In order to qualify as a matching offer, the player's existing club must make an offer on precisely the same terms as the new offer tabled by the player in respect of the following matters: 1) contract length; 2) base payments; 3) total match payments; 4) total ASA payments; 5) total performance incentives based on AFL awards or honours, club best and fairest finish or games played (not including finals).

''Any incentives for team performance are not required to be matched. A player may not table an offer to be matched for less than a two-year contract length. For salary cap purposes, actual payments made to players by either club (being new or existing) may be allocated evenly over the contract length.

''For example, if a player is offered a three-year deal for base payments of $400K, $100K and $100K, and ASA payments of $40K, $10K, $10K, the club that matches these payments may allocate $200K per year under the TPP (total player payment) limit and $20K per year under the ASA limit.''

Clubs can ask for an indication of what compensation they would receive for losing a player from the AFL but, as Wood says, will only know the true extent when the free agency period ends on October 19, and by no later than midday on October 23.

Unrestricted free agents must provide a form 42 outlining an offer from a rival club.

In both cases, contracts must be lodged with the AFL within seven days. As for compensation, Anderson says in the document: ''We confirm that the compensation formula will produce a points rating for players based on two factors: 1) new contract of the free agent and 2) age of the free agent.

''Draft picks will be allocated to clubs based on the net total points for free agents lost and gained during the transfer period. Draft picks will be allocated to one of five places: first round, end first round, second round, end of second round and third round.''

26 comments

  • If he moves away from the saints I would be surprised if he goes anywhere other than Fremantle. It is not just the weather / beaches / golf courses either! With the position the team is in, the coach and the game plan, Fremantle offers him his best chance of getting that flag he missed out on at the Saints.

    Commenter
    ralf
    Location
    sydney
    Date and time
    September 27, 2012, 8:41AM
    • I totally agree with you on this Ralf. Both Freo and Essendon are on the way up the ladder, the Saints are going the other way and the core of their best team is ageing rapidly.

      Commenter
      The doctor
      Location
      Montrose
      Date and time
      September 27, 2012, 8:50AM
    • So team loyalty does not rate with BJ? I am not talking about club loyalty, which is a debatable commodity, but striving for and winning a premiership with your mates. Did Luke Ball's premiership mean as much as it would have if he had won it with the Saints? Does BJ think that the Saints can't challenge for the flag in the next 3 years? Under Scotty I think we can, and the rest of the team thinks so for all have resigned.

      Commenter
      seniorsainter
      Date and time
      September 27, 2012, 9:37AM
    • @seniorsainter. They have no chance. Aging list it's time to rebuild. I don't think Waters is much chop either. He made some stupid statements during the year.

      Commenter
      Dano
      Date and time
      September 27, 2012, 11:16AM
    • @ seniorsainter. Saint Kilda had their moment in the spotlight in 2010 and blew their chance at the flag. They now have a lesser coach and an ageing team. There is no short term fix so St Kilda will be lucky to make the 8 in the next 3 years, let alone challenge for a flag.

      Commenter
      jj
      Location
      perth
      Date and time
      September 27, 2012, 11:44AM
    • He'll go to Essendon if anywhere. Essendon are effectively the Fremantle of last year. A team certain to make the top 8 until they were crippled by injuries. With an un-injured side they'll be right up there with Freo in the next 4-5 years (Goddard probably has that long left) and he wouldn't need to leave the state. Which we have already been told he does not want to do.

      Commenter
      Jessica
      Date and time
      September 27, 2012, 12:02PM
    • @seniorsainter at least Luke Ball got to win a flag, if he had stayed at the saints he would still be flagless and no chance of winning a flag before he retires.

      Commenter
      Tim
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      September 27, 2012, 1:15PM
  • Saints ... let him go. Not worth the money anymore. Time to rebuild and get some younger talent in.

    Commenter
    Dano
    Date and time
    September 27, 2012, 8:50AM
    • It's risky losing a good player for a kid that may or may not be any good. Ross brought the Sydney approach of bringing in recycled players every year; Schneider, Ray, Dempster, Gardner, Dawson etc. Stuff the kids, get them at 23. Kids will just go to Collingwood after you put all the time and effort in to them anyway.

      Commenter
      Bill
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      September 27, 2012, 10:59AM
    • @Bill. Goddard was once one of those good young players.

      Commenter
      Dano
      Date and time
      September 27, 2012, 11:14AM

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