WHILE he no longer has to worry about the captaincy, having announced on Monday that he would not lead Carlton in 2013, Chris Judd still has the matter of his contentious third-party agreement with Visy to settle.

Judd's bid to have that deal excluded from the salary cap continues this week when the AFL Players Association, angry at the AFL's stance, presents a case on his behalf to the AFL.

The AFLPA has taken charge after discussions between Judd's manager Paul Connors and AFL operations manager Adrian Anderson last week did not break the deadlock. Under grievance rules, the AFLPA had 14 days from that time to present a case. If the AFLPA does not end the impasse, Judd will head to the grievance tribunal, most likely after Christmas.

Judd receives about $200,000 a season for his ambassadorial role with Visy. The AFL had allowed it to be paid outside of the salary cap since Judd joined the Blues but has cracked down on all third-party deals in recent times, including those paid to players in goods alone.

The AFLPA has also opened its investigation into Kurt Tippett's manager, Peter Blucher.