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Markets Live: ASX rides Wall Street wave

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Aussie stocks have extended their recent rally as GDP growth hits expectations and after the Dow powered to a record high.

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As Queen would sing....another one bites the dust.

Thanks for being with us today, we hope you've enjoyed this edition of Markets Live, we'll see you all tomorrow.

Click here for a full wrap of the day's session.

Here's what you need2know this Wednesday evening:

Markets

  • ASX finished 0.8% higher at 5116.8
  • AUD at $US1.0292
  • Nikkei up 1.8%, Hang Seng up 0.9%, Kospi up 0.2%
  • Gold at $US1579, WTI oil up at $US91.03
  • S&P500 futures up 0.1%, FTSE100 futures flat

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Tomorrow

  • ABS jobs figures

 

For the bank watchers - Westpac closed at a record-high today:

Here's a look at how the blue chips performed today:

  • BHP: +1.2%
  • Rio: +0.8%
  • ANZ: +1.2%
  • CBA: +0.9%
  • NAB: +0.8%
  • Westpac: +1.3%
  • Fortescue: +3.7%
  • Woolworths: +0.1%
  • Wesfarmers: -0.2%
  • Telstra: flat

The market has finished higher, pushed up by leads from the US. The benchmark S&P/ASX200 jumped 41.4 points, or 0.8 per cent, to 5116.8, while the broader All Ords added 42.8 points, or 0.8 per cent, to 5130.9.

Now that the earnings season is pretty much behind us, what sort of trends can we take away from here?

For one, the first-half of the 2013 financial year appears to continue the trend of subdued revenue growth seen in the previous financial year.

‘‘The revenue side is subdued but the earnings have come through a bit better, so margins have started to improve, cost control has helped, and I think interest costs have come down,’’ UBS strategist David Cassidy said.

‘‘So that’s been the key trend, the margin expansion has started to come through as corporates focused on the cost base and the benefits of lower interest costs.’’

Overall, the Australian reporting season has been better-than-expected, Mr Cassidy noted in an earlier report released on Friday.

The strongest performing sectors were banks, insurance retailing and staples, while the weakest performances were in resources, REITs and infrastructure.

At the same time, according to an analysis of the 2012 financial year released by S&P Capital IQ, of the 192 companies that have reported earnings for the year, 39 per cent posted better-than-expected results.

Just above 30 per cent reported double-digit or better year-on-year growth.

Here's a breakdown of how the sectors have performed today on the ASX200:

A stockbroker who sued his former employer over claims he was entitled to a $1 million stake in the company has had his case thrown out for a second time.

Philip Pepe's appeal was dismissed by the full bench of the Supreme Court in Victoria today, after the judges upheld a December 2010 decision of the court that Mr Pepe was not entitled to an equity stake in Platypus Asset Management.

Mr Pepe claimed an employment contract he signed with Platypus in early 2006 guaranteed him entitlement to 5 per cent equity in the funds management firm once he had served a one-year probationary period.

Platypus dismissed Mr Pepe in October 2007, 18 months after he was recruited and a month after he received a $200,000 bonus for the 2006-07 year on top of his $262,000 salary package.

He currently works as a private client adviser at Shaw Stockbroking and could not be reached for comment. Platypus Asset Management also declined to comment.

After a bump in the road on Monday, markets around the region are performing reasonably well today:

  • Nikkei(Japan): +1.7%
  • Shanghai: +0.4%
  • Taiwan: +0.4%
  • South Korea: +0.5%
  • Singapore: +0.8%
  • New Zealand: +0.7%

Here's a nice graphic tracking the dollar's rise today:

Australia has a Goldilocks economy – not too hot, not too cold, in fact it's just about right, says CommSec chief economist Crag James:

  • Why our good economic circumstances aren’t trumpeted more, defies rational explanation.
  • Inflation is under control, unemployment is low, the economy is growing at a “normal” pace and our government deficit and debt levels are low compared with other advanced nations. To top it all off, Australia hasn’t experienced a recession in 21 years.
  • The clear reason why the Reserve Bank left interest rates unchanged yesterday is because the economy doesn’t need any more stimulus.
  • In fact we believe that interest rates have probably bottomed – if they haven’t completely reached the trough, certainly the low point isn’t far away.

Why has the US sharemarket reclaimed its pre-financial crisis high when the Australian sharemarket is still 25 per cent short of it? Malcolm Maiden asks (along with many others) and answers: because in fundamental ways the Americans are better than us.

Sharemarket investors buy the future rather the present, however, and when they look at the US market and the companies that inhabit it, they like what they see.

The resources boom shored up Australia’s economic growth was it was raging, and also shored up the value of the sharemarket.

But it also pushed the value of the the Australian dollar higher, and forced the Reserve Bank to keep interest rates relatively high, to contain price and wage inflation coming out of the mining sector.

Now the resources boom has cooled, and as interest rates and the $A remain relatively high, the underlying pressure on the industrial sector of the sharemarket is exposed.

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Three former Monsanto executives, local managers of Chinese-backed Sinochem, have emerged with the Australian distribution rights for the herbicide Roundup, a day after Nufarm lost them.

Nufarm shares fell 12 per cent on Tuesday after the company announced it had lost the exclusive rights to sell roundup, made by Monsanto, which it had held since 2002.

But Nufarm shares have recovered more than 6 per cent to $5.15 today as investors pick a buying opportunity.

Veteran corporate raider Sir Ron Brierley has cashed in more Guinness Peat Group shares as the investment firm he helped found draws closer to its next incarnation, while chairman Rob Campbell builds up his stake.

On March 4, Sir Ron sold five million shares at 48.5 Australian cents apiece, totalling some A2.4 million ($NZ3m), according to a notice to the stock exchange. The septuagenarian investor now holds 26.9 million shares, or 1.8 per cent of GPG’s voting rights.

He began selling GPG in October, and has cashed up 25 million shares for some $12.05 million.

A legal challenge against the federal government’s mineral resources rent tax has started in the High Court with lawyers for miner Andrew ‘‘Twiggy’’ Forrest arguing the controversial impost breaches the constitution.

Forrest wasn’t present in court today for the start of the case that pits his Fortescue Metals Group against the commonwealth.

Governments in the big mining states of Queensland and Western Australia have intervened in the hearing. The full court of the High Court, sitting in Canberra, has set down three days to hear the case, which will involve complex legal argument.

At one point, Justice Kenneth Hayne observed: ‘‘Nothing is unduly simple in this.’

This one is a cracker! BusinessDay's Michael West writes on the mother of all bailouts.

Anybody keen for a loan of $380 billion at, let’s say, an interest rate of 3.4 per cent?

Sounds nice eh? Well, you the taxpayer are in the process of actually making such a loan. Or at least you will soon extend, most kindly if as yet unwittingly, such a credit facility to the big banks, to be used at any time, at their discretion.

Yes, it is execptionally generous, the so-called Committed Liquidity Facility, which is in effect a permanent bailout facility which comes into play in 2015.

In a story somewhat interred in the inside pages of the AFR this morning, Christopher Joye makes the point that this massive line of credit is unusual and generous by global banking standards and it has been established with “no public debate”.

Click here for the full story.

Scared of heights?

Well, according to Australian Foundation Investment Co, one of the largest of the listed investment companies, you shouldn't be.

Even though its shares are trading at a premium to NTA and hence a touch overvalued, perhaps, this slide from a presentation it filed today with the ASX indicates that the market overall has some way on the upside to go before it gets back to historic valuation levels.

A fresh look at the companies leading the ASX200 higher:

  • Bathurst Resources: +10.34%
  • Nufarm: +6.08%
  • Iluka: +5.49%
  • Whitehaven: +4.33%
  • Seven West: +4.24%

BusinessDay’s Brian Robins writes that the Queensland Government has announced a shortlist of four proposals for the proposed multi-billion dollar Gold Coast Broadwater Marine Project, with three including a casino in their application, one of which was submitted by New Zealand's Sky City, with clear implications for Echo Entertainment, which has a casino nearby, UBS told clients.

"Without more information in terms of product (ie, number of slots/tables) and tax rates etc, determining the likely return viability of such a project and any impact to Echo Entertainment remains difficult," UBS told clients in a note.

"It is worth noting however Echo generates only about $77million EBITDA from its Gold Coast property (with fragmented market in the form of competition from pubs/clubs)."

The proximity of the Gold Coast and Brisbane markets means any competition in Gold Coast will likely risk and reduce the scale of any redevelopment of Brisbane which Echo and the Queensland Government are negotiating, it noted.

"Whilst risk of competition under Echo's licences continues to remain an uncertainty (ie Crown’s proposed Barangaroo VIP casino and any potential impact to Echo earnings from FY20/21, and now Queensland via Gold Coast) our view around the attractiveness of the Echo assets is unchanged," it told clients.

"With Crown and Genting having applied to the regulator to increase their Echo stake, we view the approvals and any subsequent creep in Echo as a near-term catalyst."

Echo shares were up 2c at #3.67 with Crown ahead 12c at $12.19.

A look at the state by state GDP numbers.

NSW grew by 0.4 per cent for the quarter and 2.4 per cent for the year, while Victoria recorded a 1.1 per cent fall for the December quarter and an annual 0.1 per cent retraction for 2012.

Queensland was flat for the fourth quarter and grew 2.2 per cent for 2012, as South Australia shrunk by 0.5 per cent for the quarter but grew 0.3 per cent for the year.

Western Australia recorded 0.5 per cent of growth for the quarter and a strong 14.2 per cent for the year. Tasmania contracted by 0.6 per cent for the last quarter and fell 4.6 per cent for last year.

The ACT saw 0.4 per cent of growth for the quarter and 3.4 per cent for the year, as the Northern Territory soared 9.7 per cent for the quarter and 32.8 per cent for 2012.

Here's one of the major stories coming out of the GDP result - a decent chuck of the nation is in recession.

Economics editor Tim Colebatch writes:

Victoria has slumped into recession, along with South Australia, Tasmania and the ACT, as the Australia’s two-speed economy has sent much of the country into reverse.

The Bureau of Statistics reports that state final demand - the total spending of consumers, business and governments - fell 0.7 per cent in Victoria in the December quarter, in trend terms, on top of a fall of 0.4 per cent in September.

Investment in the state has now fallen for three quarters in a row, falling 5 per cent in that time. Asset sales cloud over how much of that in the public and private sectors respectively, but the Bureau reported last week that as a share of output, capital expenditure by Victorian business has now fallen to the levels of the 1990-92 recession.

Brian Redican at Macquarie Bank says he doesn’t think the RBA will pay too much attention to the GDP numbers.

‘‘This kind of trend-like growth is what the RBA is happy with. Until we get a well-below trend growth number, it's only then that the RBA will sit up and pay attention to it."

HSBC has weighed in on the GDP result. Chief economist Paul Bloxham said the figures showed that the Australian economy grew at a moderate pace in the quarter, as higher export volumes offset weakness elsewhere.

‘‘Household consumption was particularly weak, investment slowed down a bit but we did see a strong contribution to the economy from net exports, as coal and iron ore exports ramped up,’’ he said.

Mr Bloxham said growth was likely to improve in 2013, which meant the Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA) was unlikely to cut the cash rate below its current level of 3.0 per cent.

‘‘We think the soft patch these figures represent is behind us and that growth will pick up in the first half of this year, so we think the RBA’s easing phase is done.’’

Citi senior economist Josh Williamson said although the headline GDP numbers matched the market’s expectations, the underlying results "showed a fairly soft profile for growth".

"Most measures of consumption were fairly weak in the quarter, and if it wasn't for a particularly large, and some would say, abnormal increase in public sector capital investment, GDP would be a lot weaker."

For some context for today's GDP numbers, here are the annual rates stretching back to 2006:

  • 2012: 3.1
  • 2011: 2.7
  • 2010: 2.8
  • 2009: 2.5
  • 2008: 1.6
  • 2007: 3.8
  • 2006: 3.2

On GDP, household final consumption expenditure rose 0.2 per cent in the December quarter and was up 2.8 per cent over the year to December, adjusted.

Total investment in dwellings rose 2.1 per cent in the quarter to be down 0.7 per cent in the year to December.

Total gross fixed capital formation rose 0.8 per cent in the quarter and was up 5.9 per cent over the year.

Domestic final demand rose 0.3 per cent in the quarter and was up 3.5 per cent over the year.

On GDP, the September quarter was revised up from growth of 0.5 per cent to 0.7 per cent, marking the 0.6 per cent on the three months to the end of December as a slight fall to 0.6 per cent.

The GDP numbers have come in bank on expectations, or in the case of the year-on-year reslt, slightly ahead.

  • GDP for Dec qtr: +0.6%, vs expectations of +0.6%
  • GDP for the year: +3.1% vs expectations of +3.0%

Focus is now firmly on the domestic GDP December quarter 2012 results, due in two minutes.

The expectation is for growth of 0.6 per cent. A reading greater than this will likely extend equity gains into the afternoon, and provide another boost for the resurgent dollar. Conversely, a reading below the expectation may halt today's rally and sober the market.

Growth across emerging markets including China and India slowed in February, according to a monthly purchasing managers' index, which hit its lowest level since August.

India, Brazil and China all saw growth rates decline after a strong increase in January, according to the HSBC Emerging Market Index, published on Wednesday. The slowdown was evident in both manufacturing and services.

Investors are eyeing closely whether emerging markets can continue to grow despite strong headwinds from a slow global recovery, with particular concern surrounding a possible slowdown in the Chinese economy.

The HSBC PMI index, based on purchasing managers' surveys of 16 emerging economies, fell to 52.3 from 53.8 in January but remained above the crucial 50 level which signifies overall expansion.

"The slowdown appears to be broad-based across manufacturing and services, with BRIC activity moderating after a promising start to the new year," said Murat Ulgen, chief economist at HSBC.

A bit more here on the Dow. America, birthplace of the credit crisis that erased $37 trillion from global equity values, is leading the world’s stock markets back.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average rallied 126 points to 14,253.77, joining Denmark’s OMX Copenhagen 20 Index among major stock gauges in the 45 largest markets to regain all-time highs, according to Bloomberg. Four years after bottoming, equity benchmarks in those countries are an average of 27 per cent below their peaks, the data show.

About $US10 trillion has been restored to US equities, fueled by the fastest profit growth since the 1990s and monetary stimulus from the Federal Reserve.

“In financial markets, there is no more powerful signal than a move to new all-time highs. This suggests traders and investors are comfortable paying the highest price ever for an instrument in the belief that it will continue to the upside,’’ said Steven Dooley, head of research at ForexCT.

“Overnight, we saw the Dow Jones trade above 14200 for the first time ever – an achievement even more remarkable when we consider that the US government is facing US$85 billion worth of budget cuts as a result of the ongoing ‘fiscal cliff’ negotiations.

“Traders will now be looking to build new long positions on the Dow Jones with a pullback towards previous resistance at 14130 likely to be seen as the next buying opportunity.”

Iron ore fell again overnight, notching $US3.60 loss to $145.20 a metric tonne. That's nine sessions without a gain, and losses in seven of those.

A quick look at some of the blue chips and the banks are carrying the market higher in early trade:

  • CBA is 1.21% higher to $69.51
  • ANZ is 1.63% higher to $29.34
  • NAB is 2.19%% higher to $31.26
  • Westpac is 1.41% higher to $31.69

Something from Italy from overnight. Italian President Giorgio Napolitano is considering appointing a new technocrat government led by a non-politician as one way out of Italy's political stalemate, officials said.

Such a solution would come into play if centre-left leader Pier Luigi Bersani failed to form a government after receiving an initial mandate from Napolitano, as is expected, they said.

"Napolitano wants a government with the broadest possible support that will last as long as possible," one of the officials said.

Bersani won a majority in the lower house of parliament and says he has the right to be the first to try to form a government, although he has no workable majority in the Senate.

However, 5-Star Movement leader Beppe Grillo, who holds the balance of power after winning a huge protest vote, responded to speculation about a technocrat government in Italian media on Tuesday by saying he would not support such an administration.

Australian homes are the most affordable in three years, thanks to rising incomes and falling interest rates.

The Real Estate Institute of Australia’s (REIA) Housing Affordability Report shows that housing affordability improved in the December quarter, with the proportion of income required to meet loan repayments decreasing by 1.4 percentage points to 30.4 per cent. The result is at its lowest level since December 2009.

REIA president Peter Bushby said housing affordability had been improving over the past year and a half as the Reserve Bank of Australia continued to cut the cash rate.

‘‘Rising income and declining mortgage repayments contributed to the improvement, with the median family income increasing 2.2 per cent and the average monthly loan repayments decreasing 2.1 per cent,’’ he said.

The best-performed companies on the ASX200 include:

  • Nufarm: +9.48%
  • Whitehaven: +3.54%
  • NRW Holdings: +3%
  • Caltex: +2.99%
  • Gindalbie: +2.98%
  • Boart Longyear: +2.95%
  • Seek: +2.83%

Sector-by-sector on the ASX200 now:

  • Info tech: +1.6%
  • Financials: +1.2%
  • Energy: +0.75%
  • Industrials: +0.58%
  • Consumer disc: +0.53%
  • Materials: +0.45%

Some of that Wall Street gold dust has rubbed off on local stocks. The Australian share market has opened more than two-thirds of a per cent higher.

The benchmark S&P/ASX200 index is up 35.7 points, or 0.70 per cent, at 5,111.1, while the broader All Ordinaries index is up 34.9 points, or 0.69 per cent, at 5,123.00.

On the ASX 24, the March share price index futures contract is up 31 points at 5110, with 8,655 contracts traded.

In other news, Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez has died, according to a national televised address by his vice-president Nicolas Maduro.

Chavez, who had been battling cancer for two years, had not been seen in public nor heard from since undergoing surgery in Cuba on December 11, his fourth operation since the disease was detected in his pelvic area in mid-2011.

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And off we go:

Looking beyond the overnight all-time high in the Dow, CommSec market analyst Juliana Roadley says the Dow's strong showing will be tested when the US employment numbers for February are released on Friday.

"That is going to be a big test for this new level for the Dow," Roadley says.

"There’s also a fair bit of talk around at the moment from these Federal Reserve members - Lacker (president of the Richmond Federal Reserve Bank) basically coming out and saying that with the Fed’s large balance sheet, any small errors in the way they try and reduce the amount of stimulus they are throwing into the US economy could create big waves in the market.

"So there’s people out there speaking. A lot of people are trying not to listen and are trying to push the markets higher, but there are some naysayers at the moment."

Also set to influence the US and Australian markets is the raft of Chinese data coming out over the weekend, Ms Roadley added.

Today's main number is the economic growth data for the December quarter, due at 11.30am.

Economists expect GDP in the three months to the end of the year to rise by 0.6 per cent, up from 0.5 per cent in the September quarter. The year-on-year result is expected to come in at 3 per cent, down from 3.1 per cent.

The expectations, however, are from last week's survey. Some data from this week, such as strong government spending and a lower than expected current account deficit could see the quarterly figure coming in a bit better.

In case you missed it yesterday, China’s new rulers said the nation will focus on consumer-led growth to narrow the gap between rich and poor while taking steps to curb pollution and graft.

Outgoing Premier Wen Jiabao, speaking at the opening of the annual session of parliament, also announced record government spending in 2013 that will sustain growth and maintain the ruling Communist Party's grip on power through an enhanced budget for internal security.

As you might imagine, world markets cheered the comments. European stocks added 2 per cent Wall Street rose about 1 per cent on the China news and solid data.

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Aussie stocks are set to follow the bullish mood on offshore markets. The Dow Jones Industrial Average closed at a historic high after China pledged record government spending to boost growth and data showed the US service sector expanding at its fastest pace in a year.

The Dow finished 0.89 per cent higher to 14253.77, breaking the October 9, 2007 closing record of 14,164.53.

There was no specific news to drive trade on Tuesday; Asian and European markets were up moderately, with Europe then catching fire for stronger gains after the Dow powered past the old record within seconds of the market opening.

But record-low interest rates and slow but steady economic growth seemed to justify the new heights, analysts say.

"Stocks are close to fair value, but very cheap relative to the bond market and to cash, which is very expensive," says David Kelly, managing director and chief market strategist at JPMorgan Asset Management in New York.

"Central banks have been keeping rates low and that justified higher stock prices. But we weren't seeing that because of these risks. As these risks have diminished, money is going into stocks because it has nowhere else to go. That led to the new high on the Dow Jones Industrial Average today," he said.

‘‘The last time we were here, the economy was about to fall off a cliff,’’ says Art Hogan of Lazard Capital Markets. ‘‘The economy is in a better place,’’ he said.

The Dow Jones since 1997:

For a comprehensive look at this morning’s business news, check today’s need2know. Here are this morning’s key markets numbers:

  • SPI futures are 19 points higher at 5098
  • The $A is higher at $US1.0247
  • The Dow surged 0.9% to a record high of 14,253.77,
  • In Europe, the FTSE100 rose 1.36% to 6431.95
  • China iron ore lost $US3.60 to $US145.20 a metric tonne
  • Gold rose $US2.50 to  $US1,574.90 an ounce
  • WTI crude oil added 23 cents to $US90.35 a barrel
  • Reuters/Jefferies CRB index added 0.3% at 291.58

Good morning folks. Welcome to the Markets Live blog for Wednesday.

Contributors: Thomas Hunter, Jens Meyer, Max Mason

This blog is not intended as investment advice

BusinessDay with agencies

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  • Etrade up the creek again! who would've thunk!!! the intelligent country this is definitely not, if a company like Etrade half owned by ANZ can't get its act together for a piddly little program change, what a disaster.

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    no not angry behind that now!!!!!!!!!!!
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    March 06, 2013, 3:56PM
  • Reading that many people believe the market is topping out. You have to realise we've only gapped back to the highs we made in 2008/09. So for 3 years, we've gone nowhere. I can see 2 things happening.
    1. We'll consolidate here for the next leg up - proving the bull market theory
    2. We'll fall right back below 5000 level - proving the bears right that is a dead cat bounce
    While there's still headwinds, I feel the momentum building for a new bull cycle. As we all know, sentiment & momentum is a powerful force in the market

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    obiwan
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    March 06, 2013, 3:51PM
    • I'm bearish on the economic fundamentals but hawkish on the market manipulation and do agree it will go up.

      Has to be a place for that 20T in offshore capital to make its way back in with the assistance of QE presses.

      Enjoy the money making as an investor but I'll feel for you when your job is done by someone overseas purely based on exchange rate and nothing else since bottom line drives everything.

      It is not just export oriented that suffer but your boss right now is working out how they can spend their higher AUD on using more services/products/labour from overseas so you might not be needed.

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      Opinion Only
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      Melbourne
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      March 06, 2013, 4:20PM
  • Thanks Swannie

    Kept the party going there. Aren't you still recovering from the previous hangover?

    What happens when we really need you to contribute to the party, will you be around at that stage?

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    Opinion Only
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    March 06, 2013, 3:41PM
  • "...The state of homelessness in New York City has never been worse, at least since the Great Depression, said the coalition's president, Mary Brosnahan" (The Wall Street Journal)
    The Depravity continues! Shame on you US, Shame! Instead of watching the Dow Jones, you should watch where the Jones are sleeping tonight.
    http://online.wsj.com/article/APf6be03e48068491ea57b37eedb62a25d.html?KEYWORDS=homelessness

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    Ashamed Bull
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    March 06, 2013, 3:16PM
  • The sky is falling! The sky is falling! Sell sell sell !!!
    Chinese bubble will burst & darkness will fill the earth for generations to come.
    Sell sell sell !!!

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    lima
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    March 06, 2013, 3:14PM
  • Yikes!!!!
    As discussed, what will the doom and gloomers feed on now!!
    Whodathunk?

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    Pete
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    March 06, 2013, 3:11PM
  • Well well well, at last a truthful comment from Allan. Intentional or a Freudian slip?

    Says Allan today "let's HOPE the little landlords and other sundry rent seekers get a belting".

    An honest admission from Allan that not even he believes the nonsense he pedals. It's all about ideology. People who own investment properties should be "belted". Bank profits are "obscene". And regarding executive salaries, "they will look back on this era in 100 years and wonder how we let them get away with it."

    Regular readers will know that Allan has many times lauded and quoted from "Prosper", a socialist if not communist organisation whose stated guiding principle is that "the wealth from property should be distributed evenly among the community".

    You may hope I get "belted" Allan, but by contrast I bear you no ill will and hope you "prosper". But at least when I comment here you can be sure it's an honest assessment of what I think WILL happen, and not an ideoligical piece about the things I dream of.

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    Balanced
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    March 06, 2013, 2:33PM
    • 'Belted?' Nah my rentals are going up 5 % minimum regardless of the hail or shine.

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      Monsta Landlord
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      Debt free and cashed up thanks to the renters.
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      March 06, 2013, 3:18PM
    • Laugh at him, not with him.

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      Realist
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      March 06, 2013, 3:27PM
    • re realist

      "Laugh at him, not with him."

      ...why not simply be indifferent?

      Some people often push emotionally charged views in support of their ambitious trading positions... why not simply take it with a grain of salt...

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      A Bodhi Nuisance
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      March 06, 2013, 4:17PM
  • China's real estate bubble. Whole cities left empty.US 60 minutes yesterday if you missed it
    http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50142079n&tag=api

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    lima
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    March 06, 2013, 2:18PM
  • Interesting summing up Malcom.

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    Catch 22
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    March 06, 2013, 1:59PM
  • "Victoria has slumped into recession, along with South Australia, Tasmania and the ACT, as Australia's two-speed economy has sent much of the country into reverse."

    www.theage.com.au/business/victoria-slides-into-recession-with-sa-tasmania-20130306-2fkeq.html#ixzz2MisMtsD5

    Yep everything's just rosy. Tra la la la la.......

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    Allan
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    Prahran
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    March 06, 2013, 1:29PM
    • But what's that got to do with the price of fish.. er I mean Iron.
      Housing markets in Vic, SA , Tassie and the ACT are up sh*t creek and will be for a few years yet. Hard thud or slow sink to the bottom, ultimately the same result

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      lima
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      March 06, 2013, 2:00PM
    • If we ever need to convert a supermarket into a canteen we know who to call.

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      Another smarty
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      March 06, 2013, 2:49PM
  • Disposable income down for a second quarter, FHB's lower again, Coal, Gas prices hammered and iron ore to follow. Terms of trade negative for 12 months straight.

    Savings are up and that's good but savings will need to be elevated for 20 years to bring down personal debt levels and it will also mean less money moving through the economy.

    Yikes! What will that do to house prices?

    Let's hope the littlelandlords and other sundry rent seekers get a belting.

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    Allan
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    Prahran
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    March 06, 2013, 1:02PM
    • Even if your comments are multiplied by 167663, homes prices will still rise and so will the stockmarket.

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      Logistics
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      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 2:41PM
  • CBA up again! Allan gets grumpier and my day is spoiled from reading some of his whingings. Problem has now been fixed, I simply go to the bottom of the comments column and when his dreary name appears I jump over to the next item.Give me more Opto and Seriously,please.

    Commenter
    pest from the west
    Location
    Lowood Q ld
    Date and time
    March 06, 2013, 12:55PM
    • Didn't short FMG st $5? No wonder you're not happy. Down 12% vs CBA up what 3%. Diddums.

      Commenter
      Allan
      Location
      Prahran
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 1:47PM
    • CBA valued at almost p/e 18, why not buy cheap European banks where there is some value?

      Commenter
      Viking
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 2:21PM
    • Hi PFTW

      If you look back thru the Parrot of Prahran’s previous posts you’ll find that he always said he would short FMG when they got to $4.50 to $5.

      They got above $5 and fell back to $4.70 at which time the Parrot said “oh BTW I shorted FMG at $5”.

      He is only ever right “after the event”. All his predictions fail, most notably recently shorting CBA. How many times did he say he added to CBA shorts?

      Commenter
      Leisure Suit Larry
      Location
      Las Vegas
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 3:08PM
    • He who shall remain nameless for the time being, will be renamed either Kimbies or Huggies .Along with all his porkies on CBA it goes to proove he is full of it.

      Commenter
      pest from the west
      Location
      Lowood
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 3:57PM
  • Ding dong ding dong we all know the new highs now, and some of US are now raking it in.

    Commenter
    Magoo
    Location
    Date and time
    March 06, 2013, 12:54PM
    • where's the comment from cranberry about "where the ding dong ding dong comment?"

      Commenter
      got brain
      Location
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 1:44PM
    • That comment was made yesterday, and here's the dong today.

      Thanks for looking out for me got.

      Commenter
      cranberry
      Location
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 2:51PM
    • pleasure, reader looks for reader

      Commenter
      got brain
      Location
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 4:01PM
  • Apologies if anyone took my advice and shorted RIO yesterday, although you have a couple more days before you settle. Anything can happen you know, iron ore prices could drop 50% tomorrow. Confucious say "Pigs can fly (or is that fry) in the wok"

    Commenter
    lima
    Location
    Date and time
    March 06, 2013, 12:47PM
  • I don't think there's any reason to be carried away by the GDP number. I actually thought it would be a touch lower and was hoping the market might respond negatively and offer up a buying opportunity. The number was pretty well irrelevant anyway, as the real story has been playing out since January. The HSBC view today (12.01pm) is where I've landed at these last few weeks. The easing cycle has finished.

    Commenter
    Balanced
    Location
    Date and time
    March 06, 2013, 12:42PM
  • Wow, the bears are sounding more desperate by the day, but understandable I guess.

    A twin attack from two bears today announces the "news" that the spot iron ore price has softened, and that a renowned bear thinks it will fall further.

    The reality is that NOBODY regards the $160/t spot price as sustainable. Valuations of the big miners by the major houses use long-term sustainable prices of between $70/t and $120/t. So it is hardly shock horror "news" that someone predicts the current price of iron ore will reduce, or that it has actually fallen to $145/t.

    Commenter
    Balanced
    Location
    Date and time
    March 06, 2013, 12:06PM
    • Oh good, FMG will go bankrupt at those prices.

      You must have shorted it at over $% surtely?

      Oh and mvf did you read the other articles not from Andy Xie?

      Commenter
      Allan
      Location
      Prahran
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 12:14PM
    • Do you understand the consequences for our highly leveraged mining companies if iron ore goes down to, say, $85?

      Commenter
      Dr No
      Location
      Spring Hill
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 12:18PM
    • wow... a balanced and realistic opinion on this blog... how unusual.

      Love your work...

      Commenter
      A Bodhi Nuisance
      Location
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 12:50PM
    • US is in recovery (just), next year it will be Europe, 2015 India , 2016 Chinese economy will start to boil, pushing up demand. Iron ore prices will reach stratopheric levels. It's all good. Go long now while RIO is still cheap!
      Early retirement here I come :))))

      Commenter
      lima
      Location
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 1:11PM
    • There are many opinions on the future of the iron ore price.

      Recent history reminds us that the majority of commentators can and have been wrong about the price.

      Commenter
      A Bodhi Nuisance
      Location
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 1:17PM
    • Dr No,
      Iron ore won't go much under AUD$100 per tonne for any length of time...

      Commenter
      JohnA
      Location
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 1:40PM
    • I'm always right until the wife tells me I'm a bloody idiot and to pull my head in

      Commenter
      lima
      Location
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 1:51PM
  • Dear bitter Allan,

    1.Government guaranteed profits? Hardly.
    2. Have a look at banks return on assets and compare it to other companies.Could their (obscene?) profits be very big in $ terms, due to the size of the business?

    Commenter
    Realist
    Location
    Brisbane
    Date and time
    March 06, 2013, 12:01PM
    • Dear Sucker Urealist

      Oh dear newbie, assets are borrowed funds. ROE is @ 18%. Government guaranteed gougers.

      LOL bitter, pollyannas can't handle facts. The market is up, it's up I tell you!

      Pity the economy is not.

      Short. $$$$

      Commenter
      Allan
      Location
      Prahran
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 12:52PM
    • Yep government guaranteed profits. Thanks Michael West for helping put this upstart back in his box.

      "Not only do taxpayers already guarantee some 60 per cent of bank funding via the deposits guarantee for zero compensation, but the wholesale funding guarantee – with its prejudicial pricing in favour of the Big Four – is still in play until 2015, and now, we have the mother of all bailout funds."

      www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/mother-of-all-bailout-funds-20130306-2fkfq.html#ixzz2Mj0lYbfV

      And where have they put their money to work? In giving ever larger mortgages to inflate the property bubble to the biggest bubble the country has ever seen.

      Look out below!

      ROFLMAO!

      Commenter
      Allan
      Location
      Prahran
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 2:05PM
    • If they have govt guarantees and 18% roe, that would make it a buy not a short? I fail to see your logic allan

      Commenter
      tango8
      Location
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 3:57PM
  • Well, Mkt is very high, the only way to make money is to sell and take profile and then wait for at least 5 % pullback and buy it again.

    Commenter
    will
    Location
    Melb
    Date and time
    March 06, 2013, 11:23AM
    • Good advice if you have profit to take.

      Commenter
      lima
      Location
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 11:31AM
    • thanks for the tip sherlock. i've been buying really high, then selling on the dips. couldn't figure out why i was running out of money.

      Commenter
      ekka
      Location
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 11:50AM
    • if you bought anything last year, it is selling time. Just look the banks. Not long ago, NAB was 25, even you bought at 28, there is more than 10% of profit. Why not take it, and then buy it back when it is low.

      Commenter
      will
      Location
      Melb
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 12:00PM
    • I admit I've taken some profits from the banks. NAB especially. When you've made 12%+ capital gain on a stock in a few weeks, it's logical to lock in the gain. I've got so much capital loss from GFC, I'll never pay capital gains tax for a long time

      Commenter
      obiwan
      Location
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 2:31PM
    • Better sell now before we have GFC Mark 2.

      Commenter
      lima
      Location
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 3:11PM
  • Go the all Ords, long way to go yet. Will close the year out @ 6000
    YEAH BABY! !!

    Commenter
    Buffett
    Date and time
    March 06, 2013, 11:20AM
  • "Australian LNG suppliers are currently building $180 billion worth of LNG projects in a massive drive that will make the nation the world's biggest exporter of the fuel. They have underpinned their investment with long-term contracts linked to the price of oil."

    "
    BP's chief economist has warned that existing long-term, oil-linked LNG price contracts underpinning Australia's LNG boom could come under pressure this decade as new Australian supplies move on to the market in the next few years.

    If combined with other uncertain factors such as US exports and a Russian gas pipeline to China in the next couple of years, Asia could quickly find itself facing the same factors that led to a dramatic change in the way European gas was priced, BP chief economist Christof Ruhl said yesterday.

    If that happened in Asia to the extent spot LNG prices were a lot cheaper than oil-linked prices, there would be pressure to redo contracts."

    http://www.theage.com.au/business/markets-live/markets-live-record-dow-propels-asx-20130306-2fjy4.html

    With the shale gas revolution predicted to keep gas prices below $4/mbtu for the next three decades the Australian LNG industry has overcapitalised and is is deep trouble.

    Commenter
    Allan
    Location
    Prahran
    Date and time
    March 06, 2013, 11:12AM
    • My head hurts from reading this stuff :(
      Can someone please translate this into Mandarin for me

      Commenter
      lima
      Location
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 11:33AM
    • Glass half empty

      Commenter
      Realist
      Location
      Brisbane
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 11:44AM
    • Glass is full. LOL.

      Commenter
      Allan
      Location
      Prahran
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 12:10PM
  • "The price of the commodity, last assessed at $150.60 a dry metric ton by The Steel Index Ltd., will slide to $115 a ton by December"

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-04/iron-ore-seen-slumping-24-by-deutsche-bank-as-supply-expands.html

    "Iron ore prices may fall as much as 40 percent in the next six months, given the current shape of the future curve of swaps traded in Singapore."

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/04/column-russell-ironore-idUSL4N0BW0PW20130304

    "Renowned China bear Andy Xie has claimed that investors in debt-laden Australian iron ore miners risk big losses and forecasts that prices for the commodity will drop below $US60 a tonne from $US150 a tonne.

    The dire prediction comes after China signalled on the weekend it would curb investment in its property sector, which has potentially significant consequences for steel demand."

    http://www.afr.com/p/business/companies/caution_in_china_blow_to_miners_Kcfkuwk6v7nUTfjEbuwLQJ

    The resources boom is well and truly over. We are not in a new paradigm after all. Seriously...

    Commenter
    Allan
    Location
    Prahran
    Date and time
    March 06, 2013, 11:04AM
    • sounds like the same doom and gloom merchants that missed the rebound...

      yep there will be a pull back in the second half however the rebound proved the assumptions of Iron Ore Execs who theorised that falls below the 130 level wouldn't last due to contractions in supply. As supply expands the level of support may drift lower to about the 100 level (from 130) however this will happen gradually over the next two to three years and is nothing to get worked up about...

      Nothing new here... just more speculative guess work...

      Feel free to get excited if some of the guesswork from market commentators confirms your own speculation.

      Commenter
      A Bodhi Nuisance
      Location
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 11:46AM
    • Typical Pollyanna reply. There is no shortage of iron ore. It's everywhere. Spot was pushed up by speculators betting on the new regime continuing with their infrastructures splurge.

      No such luck. Capital gains tax and other measures have been introduced and property bubble is bursting. The new regime have no choice but to lift services to the masses or face 500M peasants marching on Beijing.

      Bye bye resource boom. Bye bye cashed up bogans. Truck drivers are not worth $200K/year.

      Commenter
      Allan
      Location
      Prahran
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 12:07PM
  • With everthing so rosy, how about lifting interest rates above 4% again?

    Commenter
    geoff
    Location
    burraneer
    Date and time
    March 06, 2013, 10:55AM
  • I would just like to know why the Dow is at all time highs,while the All Ords has 40% to go to get to its high and the A$ is probably up near 40% on its value when the Ords peaked at around 7000 in 2007 and if there is any correlation between these figures.

    ED: Good question. We've got Malcolm Maiden writing a story on precisely that. Should be up soon.

    Commenter
    batty
    Location
    brissie
    Date and time
    March 06, 2013, 10:55AM
    • Some ideas spring to mind:

      - The Aussie market was more heavily overvalued than the Dow prior to the GFC;
      - As US interest rates are substantially lower than Australian rates, the US market supports a higher P/E valuation;
      - Expectations in the US are for bond prices to fall (possibly quite shaRPLY) as the recovery picks up, which leads to a substitution from bonds to stocks. This kind of rally triggers funds into rebalancing with a stock bias, and the weight of money flowing into stocks creates momentum for an extension of the rally way beyond realistic valuations.

      Commenter
      Relentless
      Location
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 11:16AM
    • You don't need an entire article to explain it.

      The inflow of foreign capital to build the massive white elephant LNG plants is keeping the dollar high. When the currency goes up, share prices go down because 70% of the ASX is foreign owned and to keep the share prices stable in $US prices must move inversely to the $A.

      Commenter
      Allan
      Location
      Prahran
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 11:20AM
    • At the risk of beating Malcolm Maiden to the punch, perhaps I can offer a theory. The Aussie dollar may be involved in part, but I'm not so sure its central to the difference. I put it down to one thing. Yield. In the US, you can't get anything - and I mean absolutely zilch - in a bank account or term deposit. Why wouldn't you take the risk and enter the market for the possibility of even 2 or 3 percent (and hopefully better!). This has helped to prop up the US markets. Here in the land of Oz, bank interest seems to have been tolerable for most until it got to low 4%ish. This has helped to keep the market lower for longer. Overly simplistic?

      Commenter
      Long & Strong
      Location
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 11:22AM
    • Everything is at an all time high if you measure it in USD.

      When the all ords hit it's high pre GFC the AUD was ...

      Commenter
      Jenny
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 11:25AM
    • Even though the DJIA only comprises around 30 companies and the All Ords 500(ish), our index is actually far more concentrated. We probably need to see BHP closer to $50 before we approach 2007's high.

      Commenter
      tpcam
      Location
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 11:29AM
    • Jenny - the AUD was around 90 cents US in Oct 07. http://www.ato.gov.au/taxprofessionals/content.aspx?menuid=0&doc=/content/00104932.htm&page=9&H9

      Commenter
      tpcam
      Location
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 11:46AM
    • The Dow and ASX/S&P200 have both returned around the same over 10 years. Oz outperformed 03-07 due to the resources boom and US outperformed 08-12

      Commenter
      Life Is Good
      Location
      The Real World
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 12:37PM
  • Great that markets are up, but odd that companies are cutting staff if conditions are so wonderful.

    Commenter
    cranberry
    Location
    Date and time
    March 06, 2013, 10:49AM
    • Only the banks and their government guaranteed obscene profits are holding the market up. Australia and China are conjoined twins both with massive speculative property bubbles. As they burst the banks will have nothing under them but air.

      Commenter
      Allan
      Location
      Prahran
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 11:16AM
    • Dear Allan,

      1.Government guaranteed profits? Hardly.
      2. Have a look at banks return on assets and compare it to other companies.Could their profits be very big in $ terms, due to the size of the business?

      Commenter
      Realist
      Location
      Brisbane
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 11:48AM
    • Oh dear newbie, assets are borrowed funds. ROE is @ 18%. Government guaranteed gougers.

      LOL bitter, pollyannas can't handle facts. The market is up, it's up I tell you!

      Pity the economy is not.

      Short. $$$$

      Commenter
      Allan
      Location
      Prahran
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 12:09PM
    • ROE...a great outcome for shareholders.

      PS This "newbie" has worked in the financial markets since the early 1980s as a trader, price maker and portfolio manager so I do like to think have a reasonable perspective when it comes to boom/bust cycles in markets (of all types, not just equities). I get bearish sometimes too, but rarely do I have a view as skewed as yours seems to be. The market is (currently) telling you you're wrong. However, if you hold your line long enough (as seems likely) you will eventually be able to say "See, I was right". I hope you enjoy that. I think you'll be waiting a while though, while those of a more moderate stance are making good money.

      Commenter
      Realist
      Location
      Brisbane
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 1:24PM
    • FMG , my largest position by far is down 12%. How am I wrong? Oh that's right, i'm not. ROFLMAO!

      Oh and I'm the Duke of Buccleuch. Shhhh... don't tell anyone.

      Commenter
      Allan
      Location
      Prahran
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 1:52PM
  • Dr Ho, how are those straws?

    Commenter
    Realist
    Location
    Brisbane
    Date and time
    March 06, 2013, 10:46AM
  • Iron ore down 2.4% and that's on top of 1% the previous day and 1% the day before that. If this continues things will surely start to bite after a while.

    Commenter
    Dr No
    Location
    Spring Hill
    Date and time
    March 06, 2013, 10:39AM
    • Thanks Dr Doomsday

      Commenter
      lima
      Location
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 10:45AM
    • Markets only go up Dr No. Tow the line or be punished.

      Commenter
      cranberry
      Location
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 10:56AM
    • There was some pretty graphic commentary on the Chinese economy from official sources recently... difficult to tell if this is to pave the way for further stimulus or just a tactic to depress commodity prices...

      I guess we'll probably know next week

      Commenter
      A Bodhi Nuisance
      Location
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 11:58AM
  • Dow at record highs??? Bah humbug.
    It's all a communist plot to bring down western civilization.

    Commenter
    lima
    Location
    Date and time
    March 06, 2013, 10:20AM
  • Just another day in paradise for us boring polyannas....!

    Commenter
    Life Is Good
    Location
    The Real World
    Date and time
    March 06, 2013, 10:17AM
    • Even my ex-div RIO shares are up today :)
      Life sure is good!

      Commenter
      lima
      Location
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 10:34AM
    • I sent out a cry for help on how to understand shorting. No response, finally I managed to understand, that shorting is for Tom Sawyer and not Polyanna
      However Polyanna's stock have out performed the asx by 20% this year, alas her house value has dropped 2-3% for past five
      Still all houses here are of straw and therefore not worth the asking
      Now where is that third lil pig, my new house cannot be blown down, it is ROUND, with slate coned roof, so there

      Commenter
      stuarth44
      Location
      buderim
      Date and time
      March 06, 2013, 10:45AM
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