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Federal Election 2013 Live: August 23, 2013

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We made it! End of the third week.

I'm not going to summarise the whole week but I will look back on the day that was before signing off:

  • Labor leader Kevin Rudd did a marathon trip through five western Sydney electorates;
  • Coalition leader Tony Abbott did physical fitness training with soldiers in Darwin;
  • Mr Rudd announced a policy to help small businesses reduce red tape;
  • Mr Abbott announced an additional $420 million in border protection measures including a boat buyback scheme for Indonesian fishermen;
  • Labor ridiculed the idea as the maddest immigration policy it has ever heard; and
  • the Coalition will hold its campaign launch in Brisbane on Sunday.

For those who are interested in polls please have a look at the homepages of the various Fairfax Media websites at 6pm when chief political correspondent Mark Kenny will have a taste of the latest Nielsen poll findings. The full results will be published tomorrow.

Thank you for your company this week. It's been a pleasure bringing you our live coverage of the federal election campaign. Take a bow Andrew Meares and Alex Ellinghausen. Until next week - go well.

Former Howard government finance minister Nick Minchin has joined the ranks of people who oppose Coalition leader Tony Abbott's paid parental leave scheme.

"There is a finance ministers' club and we always oppose all entitlement schemes of this kind," Mr Minchin told ABC television earlier today.

Mr Minchin said he doubted a Coalition government would be able to get the scheme through the Senate without it being altered: "I don't see how this whole package, including the tax cut and the levy is ever going to get through the Senate. Tony is very committed to it but....there are going to have to be compromises."

Breaking news reporter Jonathan Swan has filed this story on Mr Minchin's remarks.

 

Here is the photo gallery of yesterday's winning pictures by Andrew Meares and Alex Ellinghausen.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd toured BAE Systems in Williamstown. Click for more photos

ELECTION 2013 - Day 18

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd toured BAE Systems in Williamstown. Photo: Andrew Meares

  • Prime Minister Kevin Rudd toured BAE Systems in Williamstown.
  • Prime Minister Kevin Rudd at BAE Systems in Williamstown.
  • Prime Minister Kevin Rudd toured  BAE Systems in Williamstown.
  • Prime Minister Kevin Rudd met with workers at BAE Systems in Williamstown.
  • Prime Minister Kevin Rudd spoke with Nemo from the Youth Climate Coalition in Torquay.
  • Prime Minister Kevin Rudd during a press conference in a cafe in Torquay.
  • Tony Abbott returns to his hotel after an early morning bike ride in Brisbane.
  • Opposition Leader Tony Abbott during an event handing a cheque to the Manly Women's Shelter in Manly, Sydney.
  • Opposition Leader Tony Abbott during an event handing a cheque to the Manly Women's Shelter in Manly, Sydney.
  • Opposition Leader Tony Abbott during an event handing a cheque to the Manly Women's Shelter in Manly, Sydney.
  • Tony Abbott meets with Sister Jacinta Fong during his visit to the St Vincent's Hospital in Sydney.
  • Opposition Leader Tony Abbott farewells Sister Jacinta Fong after his visit to St Vincent's Hospital in Sydney.
  • Shadow Minister for Communications and Broadband Malcolm Turnbull and Opposition Leader Tony Abbott address the media during their visit to the St Vincent's Hospital in Sydney.

Don't forget - if you're in Canberra tomorrow and would like to take a look around the Prime Minister's Office you can.

Parliament House will be holding a special open day as part of its 25th anniversary celebrations.

You can find the details here but some of the highlights include touring the offices of the Prime Minister, President of the Senate and the Speaker and the House of Representatives and taking the race chance to work on the floors of both chambers.

Another cartoon - this time by David Pope - to keep you going throughout the afternoon.

 

Just a reminder that polling stations are already open should you wish to cast your vote ahead of time.

You can find the most convenient location here.

On the big question of the campaign - whether to vote above or below the line - The Sydney Morning Herald has editorialised on the matter today.

 

 

It's a Thriller kind of afternoon.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd at Bede Polding College in  Sydney on Friday.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd at Bede Polding College in Sydney on Friday. Photo: Andrew Meares

Fresh from insisting the photographers take apples this morning (see 9.23am post), Mr Rudd offers blueberries as an afternoon snack.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd gives blueberries to the  media in Sydney on Friday.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd gives blueberries to the media in Sydney on Friday. Photo: Andrew Meares

Mr Burke is asked about the polls: "If the opposition keeps making announcements like the one they did today we should be able to make up the ground pretty quickly."

Immigration Minister Tony Burke is reacting to the Coalition's announcement.

He is less than impressed that aspects of covert operations were detailed to the media in this morning's stories foreshadowing the announcement.

"Principle one of covert operations is you don't drop them to the media," Mr Burke says.

Mr Burke says it's a "clever media line [that] is sort of a match up to the kindergarten child who runs around saying 'I've got a secret do you want to hear it'."

He is also sceptical about the boat buyback plan.

"Indonesia is an archipelago. Indonesia has one of the largest fishing fleets in the world," Mr Burke says quoting figures that says there are 726,000 boats in Indonesia.

"That's a buyback scheme in a market of three quarters of a million boats. Of all the mad ideas I've heard in immigration I think boat buyback wins."

The policy document accompanying the immigration announcement says it "will cost around an additional $420 million to implement over the forward estimates period".

"These costs will be more than offset by the savings realised from the reduction in boat arrivals to be achieved by the implementation of these measures and other elements of the Coalition's comprehensive border protection policies already announced."

Coalition immigration spokesman Scott Morrison and Opposition leader Tony Abbott in Darwin on Friday.

Coalition immigration spokesman Scott Morrison and Opposition leader Tony Abbott in Darwin on Friday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

"We're not going to be all announcement and no execution," Mr Abbott says.

Opposition leader Tony Abbott addresses the media at HMAS Coonawarra in Darwin on Friday.

Opposition leader Tony Abbott addresses the media at HMAS Coonawarra in Darwin on Friday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott and immigration spokesman Scott Morrison are speaking to the media in Darwin about new aspects of their immigration policy.

The key points are:

  • $67 million to deploy Australian Federal Police officers to Indonesia, Sri Lanka and Malaysia to assist with joint people smuggling operations;
  • $20 million to "enlist Indonesian villages to support people smuggling disruption including a capped boat buy back scheme";
  • regional transit zones to help move asylum seekers to offshore processing centres without needing to go first to Christmas Island or the Australian mainland;
  • $27 million for increased aerial surveillance and $71 million to Indonesia to boost their search and rescue resources;
  • supplement the border protection fleet with commercially leased vessels; and
  • expand the capacity of processing centres on Manus Island and Nauru by 2000.

 

Opposition leader Tony Abbott addresses the media during his visit to HMAS Coonawarra in Darwin on Friday.

Opposition leader Tony Abbott addresses the media during his visit to HMAS Coonawarra in Darwin on Friday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Today's Fact Checker is special.

During Wednesday night's community forum a gentleman called Chris asked Kevin Rudd and Tony Abbott about the quality of political candidates.

"By and large, it used to be the case that to get endorsement as a candidate for either party you had to have a record of achievement in your chosen field and you probably had to have a record of community service," Chris said.

"Today, it's a different story. Increasingly we get the odd celebrity, but by and large party hacks, union officials, representatives of vested interest groups [and] that's if it's a winnable seat."

Fair point, I hear you say.

But is there any truth to it? Click here to find out.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd speaks to students at Bede Polding College in Sydney on Friday.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd speaks to students at Bede Polding College in Sydney on Friday. Photo: Andrew Meares

Except that maybe whoever was on the advance team wasn't paying attention.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd speaks to students at Bede Polding College in Bligh Park, Sydney on Friday.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd speaks to students at Bede Polding College in Bligh Park, Sydney on Friday. Photo: Andrew Meares

Or this.

I can't add anything to this.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd speaks to students at Bede Polding College with posters of Hitler, Mussolini, Rommel and Einsenhower on the wall in Bligh Park, Sydney on Friday.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd speaks to students at Bede Polding College with posters of Hitler, Mussolini, Rommel and Einsenhower on the wall in Bligh Park, Sydney on Friday. Photo: Andrew Meares

Bianca Hall is with Team Rudd.

She was there for every seat of Mr Rudd's western Sydney blitz earlier today and has just had time to file this piece about it.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd visits Westfield Penrith in Sydney on Friday.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd visits Westfield Penrith in Sydney on Friday. Photo: Andrew Meares

More on immigration:

Australia has been found guilty of almost 150 violations of international law over the indefinite detention of 46 refugees in one of the most damning assessments of human rights in this country by a United Nations committee.

The Age's political editor, Michael Gordon, writes that the committee has ordered the federal government to release the refugees - who have been in detention for more than four years  - and provide them with rehabilitation and compensation.

 

Labor leader Kevin Rudd has ridiculed a Coalition plan to spend millions of dollars buying Indonesian fishing boats to deter people smugglers.

The Coalition will increase spending on Australian Federal Police special operations personnel working the region and is, reportedly, going to introduce a boat buy back scheme.

"This is a genuinely interesting policy, this one," Mr Rudd said earlier today.

 

 

Opposition leader Tony Abbott tours HMAS Maryborough in Darwin on Friday.

Opposition leader Tony Abbott tours HMAS Maryborough in Darwin on Friday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

It's all a bit meta, isn't it?

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd visits Westfield Penrith in Sydney on Friday.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd visits Westfield Penrith in Sydney on Friday. Photo: Andrew Meares

How is the campaign treating you so far? Are any of the parties addressing your concerns?

Columnist Waleed Aly writes today that the campaign is "a world of micro politics - a world where the controversies are over small matters of detail rather than large questions of vision".

Waleed goes on: "I can summarise the parry and thrust: the arguments each side is deploying against the other, and which ones are going unanswered. But what I cannot do, is tell you what either party would like Australia to look like in 30 years, what they think should be transformed, what should be forgone and what should be preserved."

You can read Waleed's column here.

 

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd visits Westfield Penrith in Sydney on Friday.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd visits Westfield Penrith in Sydney on Friday. Photo: Andrew Meares

A couple more things to draw to your attention.

The Coalition's industrial relations spokesman, Eric Abetz, has attracted internal criticism for "freelancing" on future Coalition policy by suggesting an Abbott government would intervene in wage settlements if wage rates were too high.

The Sydney Morning Herald's health reporter, Amy Corderoy, has looked at the Coalition's health policy (released yesterday.

 

 

 

Opposition leader Tony Abbott does physical training with soldiers from 1st Armoured Regiment at Robertson Barracks in Darwin on Friday.

Opposition leader Tony Abbott does physical training with soldiers from 1st Armoured Regiment at Robertson Barracks in Darwin on Friday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Labor wants the Coalition to release its policy costings. All in good time, says the Coalition.

What do you think? Is it time for the Coalition to show us the money? Have your say in our readers' poll which you can find here.

I think cartoonist Michael Leunig is having a hard campaign.

 

Since I've mentioned polls a couple of times already this morning now seems like a good moment to point you in the direction of The Age's economics editor Tim Colebatch's look at robopolling, the new kid on the block of polls.

Robopolling is interesting - it is much cheaper and faster than a traditional poll because it is based on automated phone calls.

But this, however, results in a much larger margin of error.

You can read Tim's piece here.

And on Monday the latest in our series of Google Hangouts will take place. This one is with Greens' leader Christine Milne.

It will begin at 12.30pm AEST but you can start submitting questions using the hashtag #GreensHangout.

Incidentally, the Greens will hold their campaign launch at the National Convention Centre in Canberra tomorrow.

 

A couple of things to look out for later on today and tomorrow.

Chief political correspondent Mark Kenny is just about to receive the results of the latest Nielsen poll.

He will have the first take on it up online from 6pm tonight (look out for it on the homepages of Fairfax websites) with full results on the web and in print in tomorrow's papers.

 

Just for the record Mr Rudd has visited the Sydney seats of Reid, Greenway, Linsday, Parramatta and Macquarie this morning. He has also hurt his finger.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd visits Westfield Penrith in Sydney on Friday.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd visits Westfield Penrith in Sydney on Friday. Photo: Andrew Meares

Back to the actual announcement - Mr Rudd says a re elected Labor government would reduce the number of times small and medium businesses need to lodge GST returns from four times a year to once.

The policy would cover about 1.35 million businesses with a GST turnover of under $20 million a year and come into place from 1 July 2014.

The businesses would be able to pay instalments based on GST paid in the previous year and would make paying the GST more akin to the Pay As You Go income tax system.

And the cost of this policy?

"This change is estimated to have an unquantifiable but small impact on revenue over the forward estimates period," the policy document says.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd hands over a $20 donation on his visit to Westfield Penrith in Sydney on Friday.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd hands over a $20 donation on his visit to Westfield Penrith in Sydney on Friday. Photo: Andrew Meares

For someone who doesn't like "class warfare" Mr Rudd is doing a lot of talking about what people in the "flash suburbs of Sydney" get compared to "the people out here" (that would be western Sydney).

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd with adviser Bruce Hawker at Westfield Penrith in Sydney on Friday.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd with adviser Bruce Hawker at Westfield Penrith in Sydney on Friday. Photo: Andrew Meares

Mr Rudd is warming to his theme of saying any Coalition policy is as "irresponsible" and as "unfair" as its paid parental leave scheme.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd visits Westfield Penrith in Sydney on Friday.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd visits Westfield Penrith in Sydney on Friday. Photo: Andrew Meares

Mr Rudd is now in Penrith where he is campaigning with the local member and Assistant Treasurer David Bradbury.

The pair are announcing a policy to reduce the amount of paperwork governments require of small businesses.

"Today we're talking out the scissors and cutting up the red tape," Mr Bradbury says.

At least Mr Abbott's side kicks would have been too tired to say what they thought of his policies.

Mr Rudd was not so lucky. His security detail removed Gerard Quin from the Toongabbie cafe after he did a little bit too much heckling.

A heckler is removed from the Blend Cafe in Toongabbie by Prime Minister Kevin Rudd's security detail on Friday.

A heckler is removed from the Blend Cafe in Toongabbie by Prime Minister Kevin Rudd's security detail on Friday. Photo: Andrew Meares

While Mr Abbott was sticking to his forte Mr Rudd was sticking to his.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd cuddles two week old Gurmeahar Singh in the Blend Cafe in Toongabbie, Sydney on Friday.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd cuddles two week old Gurmeahar Singh in the Blend Cafe in Toongabbie, Sydney on Friday. Photo: Andrew Meares

One, two, three - it's the eye of the tiger, it's the thrill of the fight.....

Opposition leader Tony Abbott does physical training with soldiers from 1st Armoured Regiment at Robertson Barracks in Darwin on Friday.

Opposition leader Tony Abbott does physical training with soldiers from 1st Armoured Regiment at Robertson Barracks in Darwin on Friday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Anyone else thinking of the Roy and H.G. Olympic Turkish wrestling commentary?

Opposition leader Tony Abbott does physical training with soldiers from 1st Armoured Regiment at Robertson Barracks in Darwin on Friday.

Opposition leader Tony Abbott does physical training with soldiers from 1st Armoured Regiment at Robertson Barracks in Darwin on Friday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

See Tony jump.

Opposition leader Tony Abbott does physical training with soldiers from 1st Armoured Regiment at Robertson Barracks in Darwin on Friday.

Opposition leader Tony Abbott does physical training with soldiers from 1st Armoured Regiment at Robertson Barracks in Darwin on Friday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Kevin Rudd was a bit more sedate when he visited the same barracks last week. No one say "man up".

Opposition leader Tony Abbott does physical training with soldiers from 1st Armoured Regiment at Robertson Barracks in Darwin on Friday.

Opposition leader Tony Abbott does physical training with soldiers from 1st Armoured Regiment at Robertson Barracks in Darwin on Friday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

And then I realised - of course, he's going to do physical training with the soldiers. As you do.

Opposition leader Tony Abbott does physical training with soldiers from 1st Armoured Regiment at Robertson Barracks in Darwin on Friday.

Opposition leader Tony Abbott does physical training with soldiers from 1st Armoured Regiment at Robertson Barracks in Darwin on Friday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

I looked at this picture a little while ago and was wondering why Coalition leader Tony Abbott was leaving his hotel for Robertson Barracks in Darwin in his gym gear.

Opposition leader Tony Abbott departs his hotel for Robertson Barracks for an early morning exercise in Darwin on Friday.

Opposition leader Tony Abbott departs his hotel for Robertson Barracks for an early morning exercise in Darwin on Friday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Oh look - kittens! Smart campaign move or a sign of desperation?

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd  in South Granville, Sydney, on Friday.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd in South Granville, Sydney, on Friday. Photo: Andrew Meares

Kevin Rudd with Robert Michael at the Flemmington Markets in Sydney on Friday.

Kevin Rudd with Robert Michael at the Flemmington Markets in Sydney on Friday. Photo: Andrew Meares

I know people outside western Sydney sometimes feel like that area gets too much attention from politicians.

I get that. But it's worth keeping in mind that the area is home to about 2 million people and contains 12 electorates so you can see why both major parties zero in on it.

Mr Rudd insists the photographers travelling with him on the campaign keep up their daily fruit intake (although it can be hard to hold an apple while you're shooting).

Kevin Rudd hands apples to photographes at the Flemmington Markets in Sydney on Friday.

Kevin Rudd hands apples to photographes at the Flemmington Markets in Sydney on Friday. Photo: Andrew Meares

Mr Rudd's seat blitz comes as polls warn Labor is not looking good in several crucial seats in Sydney.

One poll also suggests Mr Rudd is also up against it in his own Brisbane seat of Griffith.

Mr Rudd told Sky News it was too early to write off any seat.

"We've just passed the half time hooter," Mr Rudd said. "The bottom line is the Australian people will decide."

As for his own seat?

"I'm perfectly content to leave my future in the hands of my local community. That's what democracy is all about," Mr Rudd said.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd visits Abu Hussein's shop in South Granville, Sydney, on Friday.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd visits Abu Hussein's shop in South Granville, Sydney, on Friday. Photo: Andrew Meares

Team Abbott is in Darwin.

Team Rudd was up bright and early (about 4am) for a western Sydney blitz. Mr Rudd has already managed appearances with two Labor MPs (Julie Owens and John Murphy) at Flemington Markets, a small business and a cafe. He's got a shopping centre and school to go.

Kevin Rudd in South Granville, Sydney, on Friday.

Kevin Rudd in South Granville, Sydney, on Friday. Photo: Andrew Meares

Good morning.

Welcome to the last day of the third week of the campaign - only two more weeks to go. It's a pleasure to have you with us as Andrew Meares, Alex Ellinghausen and I take you through the day's campaign news and views.

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  • Tony could make a monsterous artificial reef with the scuttled boats in the Big New North to replicate the GBR. Dying due to climate change acidification and pesticide/fertiliser run off but we won't mention that -CC is c....
    Didn't miss much today........

    Commenter
    A country gal
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    August 23, 2013, 4:19PM
  • Two weeks ago the betting agencies had Rudd at $1.05 to hold Griffith and Bill Glasson at $8.00.

    Today the hapless Rudd is at $1.45 and Glasson $4.65.

    What a hoot - the prospect of Rudd losing his own seat.

    Beautiful payback eh Julia?

    Commenter
    Tim of Altona
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    August 23, 2013, 4:09PM
    • Tim - I tried betting on Rudd (considering the odds were so good should he pull off a win) and they wouldn't accept my $50 bet. Looks like the online betting agencies aren't prepared to put their money where their odds are.

      Also, it just ocurred to me that it would be well within the interests of these online gambling companies to get an LNP govt, as they know the LNP will just make things easier and more profitable for them....so these odds are just like a form of additonal advertising for the Liberal party. Pity...I reckon I could have easily swindled them for about $350.

      Commenter
      tim bob
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      August 23, 2013, 4:25PM
  • Those bad policies will never get through. They're there just for laughs.

    Commenter
    Lewis
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    August 23, 2013, 4:00PM
    • Not unlike Rudd's same sex marriage promise. It won't get through the lower house let alone the Senate. Last time around 40% of Labor MP's voted against same sex marriage incl Gillard and Kevin Rudd.

      Rudd is conning everyone in a grab for votes.

      Commenter
      Tim of Altona
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      August 23, 2013, 4:13PM
    • The difference is if Rudd bill get's through it won't tank the economy or cost the taxpayer billions of dollars!

      Commenter
      Macca75
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      August 23, 2013, 4:16PM
    • That's true Macca! Indeed, allowing gay marriage would be a great boon to the economy. Any party that doesn't allow a conscience vote on this doesn't deserve to hold the reins of our economy. Again and again the Coalition show themselves to be the inferior economic managers. Seiously guys, give me one good reason why we should prevent gay people marrying.

      Commenter
      Passionfruit
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      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 4:27PM
  • Do you see the PM at BAE systems in Williamstown. He appears to be pointing to how much better Tony is doing in the Polls than he is. Now Mr Burke seems to think Labor are going to romp it in! Don't think so we have long memories of a dysfunctional federal government and plenty of past dysfunctional Labor state governments and other's on life support. But good luck with your thinking. Perhaps the Robopolls are nearer the mark. Perhaps the PM's recent frequent school visits tells us that he thinks that Labor are gone for all money and that by appealing to these guys might be Labor's only way back.
    Chuckle
    Nice one David Pope

    Commenter
    Optimist
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    Soon
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    August 23, 2013, 3:59PM
  • Oh!

    Commenter
    ultra
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    Mel
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    August 23, 2013, 3:45PM
  • Nick Minchin announces he is against Abbotts PPL - does this policy have a friend other than Abbott?

    Commenter
    Macca75
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    August 23, 2013, 3:39PM
    • I like it.....why should only women who work for the Public Service (that is paid by us) get maternity leave paid at the same rate as their wage? Some of them earn over a hundred grand and I don't believe its capped at all.

      Commenter
      thereisnoyouinLabor
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      brisbane
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      August 23, 2013, 4:10PM
    • SOme of them earn over $100k - you seem to think this is a high income yet Abbott will pay $75k to people earning more than $1m a year.

      Commenter
      Macca75
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      August 23, 2013, 4:18PM
  • Bruce Hawker claims the bandaid is from shaking so many hands, I never realized people shook the back of your hand, maybe it's a union thing!

    Commenter
    Already Reflected
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    August 23, 2013, 3:38PM
  • Geeze trust all the luvies to be trumpeting how good Labor is at fixing the problems it created in the first place.

    Almost as good as they are choosing their leaders:

    Kim Beazley

    Simon Crean

    Mark Latham

    Kim Beazley

    Kevin Rudd

    Julia Gillard

    Kevin Rudd

    Can you spot the pattern?

    Commenter
    SteveH.
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    August 23, 2013, 3:33PM
    • The ALP went backwards as did the country when Gillard and Rudd did the number on Beazley. Their own ego's and ambition's were too great to see they were not yet up to being Opposition Leader little own being PM. We have seen that over the past 6 years of chaos and dysfunction.
      Had Beazley become PM in 2007, the polls show at the time he was in front, he would have been head and shoulders about those other two fools.
      Beazley has often been referred to as the best Opposition Leader never to become PM.

      Commenter
      terry
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      August 23, 2013, 4:10PM
    • Can't stand many of those leaders, if not all of them - but I don't know - you could easily put the names 'Abbott or Howard' right above em in that list.

      Commenter
      The boy who cried wolf
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      Planet Earth
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      August 23, 2013, 4:13PM
  • Let's recap the week for Abbott -
    1) Announces PPL, can't explain how it will be paid and get's laughed out of town by business and economists.
    2) Is rude during a debate he lost
    3) Saul Eslake demonstrates Abbott needs $30b in savings just to match the the ALP's deficit
    4) Announcement a boat buy back from indonesian fishermen that has been laughed out of town by everyone.

    Great job TOny!!

    Commenter
    Macca75
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    August 23, 2013, 3:20PM
    • And Abbott's poll popularity hits record levels, 2PP up to 54-46, Rudd's own seat in danger.

      Who won the week then Macca ?

      Commenter
      Hacka
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      August 23, 2013, 3:30PM
  • I'm not convinced of your polling figures Hacka, but if true...Australia certainly isn't the winner!

    Commenter
    Passionfruit
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    August 23, 2013, 3:36PM
  • Let's recap the week for Ruddy Boy:

    1. Visited another 5 schools seeking self adulation and selfie opportunities

    2. Lost a debate 37 to 35 in his home State

    3. Did a lot of talking (usually over others) without actually saying much and copped the spray he deserved.

    4. Was extremely rude to a make up artist

    5. Was heckled at Flemington Markets in the heart of Labor territory

    6. Was rude to a school journalist.

    No doubt he is off home now to lie in te featal position until Monday.

    Gotta zip.

    Commenter
    Smokin Mo
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    Ryde
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    August 23, 2013, 3:39PM
    • But Smokin Mo, this was a good week for Krudd, at least compared to the first two weeks.

      Oh, and you forgot, Rudd has fallen behind in the polls in his own seat.

      Commenter
      kp
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      brisbane
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      August 23, 2013, 3:50PM
    • SMo - nice one.

      Macca - time will tell.

      Gotta zip - beer o'clock. 15days till E-Day, good weekend to all.

      Commenter
      Hacka
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      Canberra
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 3:55PM
    • Rudd rude to makeup artist, the lady concerned didn't give any details of what he said did and who was there none of us so comments about the incident are pointless.

      Commenter
      amro
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      August 23, 2013, 3:57PM
    • Once the election is held and if Abbott wins, I'm sure Hacka will be out of a job like the rest of us.

      Commenter
      QED
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      August 23, 2013, 4:16PM
  • How would you know how big Labor's deficit is going to be, its obvious they don't have a clue.

    Labor's story on how big its debts are and when it will be in surplus is a running joke with a new punchline
    every few months.

    Commenter
    SteveH.
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    August 23, 2013, 3:42PM
    • There's no accounting for taste Hacka!

      Hope you are just as happy with Abbott "winning" when these policies come to fruition.

      Commenter
      Macca75
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      August 23, 2013, 3:52PM
    • Item 4 - laughed out of town by everyone - the entire population of Australia then? Get real - no mention in your remarks about the finding against the govt in relation to the detention of asylum seekers and them having to be released and paid compensation - an inconvenient truth perhaps?

      Commenter
      Baltic13
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      August 23, 2013, 3:57PM
    • Hey Hacka, my reply to you ended up as a new comment during the strange disappearing comment period. At one stage I was contemplating a conspiracy; all our comments erased and perhaps the whole day; anything to take back the terrible buying boats policy (and try to fool us they never suggested it). Phew! I started to wonder if I had imagined it all.

      Commenter
      Passionfruit
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      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 3:59PM
    • Get real - deep down inside we know a fair wack of people in this country don't give 2 hoots about boat peoples lives - specially if they don't see it. It's all about money and fear.

      Commenter
      The boy who cried wolf
      Location
      Planet Earth
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      August 23, 2013, 4:19PM
    • This is my third reply to you Hacka...the other two ended up in the wrong place?? Now I've forgotten my point... Anyway, if your poll figures are a close match to reality, it would be bizarre. Even many Libs don't like the Lib policies! And business isn't happy either. I also get the impression that the average punter prefers Labor policies over the Lib ones. Plus no one could accuse Abbott of being a statesman, a smooth-talker who seduces the nation. But despite all this, I agree that the Coalition is probably in the box seat. Just bizarre!

      Commenter
      Passionfruit
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 4:20PM
    • Made me laugh out loud. Buy back the boats. He will have to buy several thousands -- will create a boat building industry in Indonesia.I am not a Rhode scholar I must have missed something. Rudd was decisive. He visited Indonesia met the leaders there then flew to New Guinea. Got an agreement and an agreement was finalised. No beating about the bush.

      Commenter
      Blokey
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 4:23PM
    • Item 2
      I did not see much of the debate but what I did see was Rudd invading Abbott's space often face to face very close and being very aggressive towards Abbott. It seems to be deliberate as if to provoke Abbott into do doing something.
      Rudd was the loser from the limited time I watched.

      Commenter
      terry
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 4:30PM
  • Abbott obviously knows absolutely nothing of the 'average' Indonesian mindset - I'm married to an Indonesian - when she heard what Abbott was putting forward - she just laughed - I hope you all have very fat wallets, because people on the ground, in Indo are going to scheme every cent they can from this silly buy up plan - its pure madness. And please Morrison - do you us all a big favour and retire from politics - you are the people smugglers best friend... seriously retire now!

    Commenter
    The boy who cried wolf
    Location
    Planet Earth
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 3:09PM
    • How many boats has Morrison let through ?

      Commenter
      Hacka
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 3:12PM
    • Really, I'd say Kevin Rudd was the people smugglers best friend,

      He's the dope who put them back into business in the first place.

      Try that fact out in your mindset.

      Commenter
      SteveH.
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 3:18PM
    • New travel conditions for refugees.

      http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/21753

      Commenter
      J. Fraser
      Location
      Queensland
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 3:22PM
    • @ Hacka - none yet, but give it time if the Libs win...

      @ SteveH. Morrison - is a traitor - plain and simple - he doesn't care about the boats - only his own agenda - me, myself and I.

      Secondly - if you honestly believe that, you're kidding yourself - they have _never_ stopped - less yes, stopped no - look at the facts and statistics (easy enough to find if you have the right mindset....).

      But bottom line - buying rickety boats from 'average' Indonesian people is madness - I've seen the poverty in that country close at hand and it'll never work - seriously never.

      I think we both know who's to blame and its not either major players - seriously the greens should be ashamed of themselves.

      Commenter
      The boy who cried wolf
      Location
      Planet Earth
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 4:02PM
    • Less than abbott will end up paying our money for hacka...........

      Commenter
      hhmmmmm
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 4:10PM
    • I have looked at the stats which are freely available in the public domain.

      I realise that rational analysis on this subject is simply beyond those whose lives are based on faith rather than facts:

      2001- 5516
      Pacific Solution introduced
      2002-1
      2003-53
      2004-15
      2005-11
      2006-60
      2007-148
      end of Pacific Solution
      2008-161
      2009-2726
      2010-6555
      2011-4565
      2012-17270
      2013-?

      Commenter
      SteveH.
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 4:26PM
  • The Pulse @ 3:01 PM

    Wicked !

    Thank to David Pope for a good laugh.

    Suppositories of humour are laughing all over Australia.

    Commenter
    J. Fraser
    Location
    Queensland
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 3:06PM
  • I can't find a single story about Kevin Rudd in the SMH online.
    It's all about how bad Abbott is. Every heaadline.
    Lefty's, you do have someone on your side. SMH!

    Commenter
    Gerry
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 3:04PM
    • Dear Gerry, perhaps if you opened your eyes, took your fingers out of your ears and stopped singing "la, la, la I caaaaant hear you" you would find your anti-Rudd stories.

      Commenter
      Whyalla Wipeout
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 3:12PM
    • Rudd has released costings and policies. What else is there to say? Meanwhile Abbott has at least 30 billion in unexplained costings or cuts to explain and he's coming up with even more stupid policies than his PPL in his boat buy back.

      Commenter
      QED
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 3:31PM
  • Please...have they pulled up stumps for the day yet?
    And can they take the weekend off?

    Commenter
    Tony
    Location
    Paddington
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 3:00PM
    • Kevie will, there's no school tomorrow.

      Commenter
      Jane
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 3:19PM
  • Boat buyback is one of the dumbest ideas I have ever heard. Perhaps Indonesia will start manufacturing boats just so that we can "buy them back."

    Who came up with this idea? It sounds like another dumb idea that's come directly from Tony Abbott.

    Just like the aerial surveillance - how is that going to help if they scuttle the boats? This policy is just dumb.

    Commenter
    Tone
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 2:59PM
    • Sometimes the best ideas come from left field. Don't knock until it has been tried. Beats sending the illegals to another country.

      Commenter
      Outside the Square
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 3:13PM
    • How about Labor's great idea to dismantle Howard's Pacific Solution for a dumb idea.

      Oh, but thats right you've forgotten who created this mess in the first place.

      Commenter
      SteveH.
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 3:23PM
    • Tell me this,how many refugee boats arrived in Australia BEFORE abbott took us to war?...Heres a clue...NONE..ZIP...NADA...now tell us again how many came after abbott took us to war!!

      Commenter
      Steeden
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 4:01PM
    • Steeden, tell me again who said on April 23, 2003 in parliament "Another boat on the way, another policy failure". I'll give you a clue, she was a pm of this country once. Do you know how many boats arrived in 2003. I'll give you another clue, it's a number less than 2. Now who turned this into a political issue again?

      Commenter
      Already Reflected
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 4:14PM
    • Steeden, when was it exactly that Abbott took us to war? Was it Vietnam?

      Commenter
      Already Reflected
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 4:17PM
    • @Louis its happening I blv I am sufering from Tone deafeness would anyone else be as well?

      Commenter
      ultra
      Location
      Mel
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 4:30PM
  • Wow, just saw the Abbott training photos and does anyone else think "the new Putin". What next, topless crocodile wrestling?

    Commenter
    AtomicNirvana
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 2:51PM
    • Yes is anyone else fed up to their back teeth with the stupid action man theme ?

      My god I don't want a PM who is best able to play dress ups in working man's clothes, unedifying and just plain stupid !

      Commenter
      havasay
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 3:21PM
  • Photo @2.30

    Now Rudd is into photo-bombing?

    Commenter
    yys
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 2:51PM
  • Abbott has finally reached the pinnacle of stupidity."Buy the boats"? From whom? For how much? How many? What is the eligibility criteria? Where are they then kept?

    This so called policy announcement is without equal in the history of thought bubbles. The most poorly thought out concept I have ever heard of. Proof enough that the LNP rabble are completely devoid of any level of critical thinking. Just outrageous.

    LNP new slogan...
    "We decide which boats we will buy and how much we will pay for them" DUHHH

    Commenter
    Buying boats and redneck votes
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 2:50PM
    • Hmm, still some hot competition from NBN-lite! Bring up the rear is the Abbott PPL.

      Commenter
      Passionfruit
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 3:16PM
    • Comment of the Day !

      Commenter
      havasay
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 3:26PM
  • Abbott likes consistency, he still sticks with 3 word slogans 'Buy the Boats' don't worry you will all understand after the election 'should he win' that he was actually saying 'I am Stupid'

    Commenter
    Grrrrrrrrrr
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 3:40PM
  • To all the labor luvies who love to claim Australia having AAA ratings is a great labor achievement, I hate to burst your bubble. You do realise that the 2 primary agencies, Moody's has had Australia rated AAA since October 2002 and S&P since Feb 2003. Fitch had us at AA+ in Feb 2002. So labor achieved one upgrade from Fitch, AA+ to AAA and we have been put on notice by all agencies that they need to see a credible path to surplus if they are to be maintained, something labor have so far been unable to provide. In comparison the coalition improved all 3 ratings from 1996 levels of AA2, AA & AA. Previously Hawke had managed to lose both AAA ratings in 1986. Just another Labor lie about their achievements.

    Commenter
    Already Reflected
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 2:48PM
    • But 3 AAA's is still better than 2 isn't it?

      Commenter
      Macca75
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 3:01PM
    • This explains how hockeynomics works.
      The trouble is if you use it both ways the LNP always come out lying.

      http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-19/joe-hockey-exaggerates-debt-figures/4897264

      Commenter
      Tim
      Location
      InnerCity
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 3:15PM
    • Macca75, good argument, some really strong points. Anyway, the point is that it was the coalition that restored the 2 AAA credit ratings lost under Labor and set us on the path to the third. We are now in a position where all 3 will shortly be at risk if no credible path to surplus is shown. There was never any threat to our credit rating going backward under the coalition. So if you ask me what's best, a party that starts from a low base and builds to the top or a party that starts at the top and pushes us to the edge of the cliff I'll choose the builder every time.

      Commenter
      Already Reflected
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 3:22PM
  • ALready Reflected - perhaps you could ellaborate on what global economic conditions were in play during the periods you refer to?
    And what econoic policies each govt introduced which caused the changes in ratings?

    Commenter
    Macca75
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 3:32PM
    • Not the people of Australia - that's a 100% fact

      Commenter
      The boy who cried wolf
      Location
      Planet Earth
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 4:15PM
    • In the early Howard years he faced the tech crash and more importantly the Asian financial crisis which hit us much harder than the GFC, we were one of the only countries in the region not to go into recession, (in the GFC hardly any Asian nations went into recession). Japan has never recovered from the AFC. Howard and Costello didn't use panicked spending, instead they used prudent financial management and fostered business and consumer confidence. We came out of this period with budget surpluses and strong growth as the mining boom kicked in. In comparison Rudd, Swan and Gillard panicked, with the mining boom in full swing. Threw money everywhere, destroyed business and consumer confidence with their panicked spending. We came out of that with massive budget deficits, a slowing economy, huge debt and no business or consumer confidence. To any thinking person you can see which party handled the crisis' better.

      Commenter
      Already Reflected
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 4:27PM
    • But it is pretty good evidence that we are not having a 'budget emergency' isn't it?

      Commenter
      QED
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 3:43PM
    • So Tim, your retort is to refer to an exaggerated claim made by hockey, where the main point was true, labor have racked up huge debt? Wow, that's all you have to excuse the labor lie that they are responsible for our AAA credit rating. Either way you slice it labor has a $200b + net / $400b gross debt compared to being left with net and gross debt less than $0. Labor started with 2 AAA credit ratings with positive outlooks, they will most likely leave with 3 AAA ratings in serious threat and a generation of debt to repay, with an $11b annual interest bill that could pay for Gonski and the NDIS.

      Commenter
      Already Reflected
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 4:08PM
  • Some say this campaign needs a bit of an injection.

    Can we expect Julia and Swannie to start leaking soon ?

    Commenter
    Hacka
    Location
    Canberra
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 2:42PM
    • If you want an injection you could always read about the bombers!

      Commenter
      Macca75
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 2:46PM
    • If they do they'll do so on the last week. It should be entertaining.

      Commenter
      Lewis
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 2:47PM
    • Look over there.
      <
      <
      <
      anywhere but at the boat buyback.

      Commenter
      J. Fraser
      Location
      Queensland
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 2:58PM
    • Indeed Macca - and it's Sheedy's last home game this week too. Maybe he'll make a late entry for the seat of Dobell.

      Commenter
      Hacka
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 3:11PM
  • Boat buy back, seems really silly.
    It will be a dogs breakfast to administer & run, very liable to rorting

    Commenter
    Rough-Ready
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 2:32PM
  • wow labor are scambling, their press conferences are becoming so predictable.
    They're all the same, have nothing to offer except criticism of the Libs.
    I don't get how they keep a straight face when they keep parroting about them leaving their costings to the last minute.
    The hypocrisy is breathtaking.
    Why doessn't some jouno say back to them "you do it".

    Commenter
    Anna
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 2:16PM
  • Sorry i'm late........did i miss anything?
    Has Rudd abused anyone today?

    Commenter
    liklik
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 2:15PM
    • nup, Mr Rude is playing with the kiddies again today.

      Commenter
      Kim
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 2:47PM
    • That's on a news limited site, there was a pigeon that wasn't happy at the way Rudd used his mannerisms.

      Commenter
      Tim
      Location
      InnerCity
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 3:02PM
    • Are you sure he's playing with them? I have heard he has been ignoring them and asking for questions from real journalists............

      Commenter
      liklik
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 3:03PM
    • Tim, it sounded like a young voter trying to start a career in journalism in the audio i heard.
      Rudely dismissed by Mr Rude!

      Commenter
      liklik
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 3:28PM
    • A Liklik ,
      Yes I think he six apples but here were some Kiwis in the crowd and they thought he said sex appeal they were well what else disgusted haha!

      Commenter
      ultra
      Location
      Mel
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 4:43PM
  • Here is some good reading
    http://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2013/aug/23/abbott-boat-buy-scheme-economics

    What is also interesting is that Abbott now has a terrible climate change policy, a terrible PPL policy and a teerible immigration policy and $30b of savings to find just to break even with the current govt yet people still think he is the best option

    Commenter
    Macca75
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 2:11PM
    • I know Macca! Hard to believe that he still could win. But Freud had it right when he said that humans are essentially irrational.

      BTW, I suspect the internal polling is tighter than the headlines suggest. Every time Rudd/Labor is prosecuting a reasonable case, up comes the boat issue (again!). This version is a doozy.

      Commenter
      Passionfruit
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 2:19PM
    • Macca, you don’t hide your left wing leanings, every comment you make is anti –coalition, but you can’t hide from the fact that this Labor government has made mistake after mistake and left us with a $30.1 Billion dollar deficit and a debt that will take years to pay back, someone has to fix the mess that Labor has left and yes, there will be cuts, but what is the alternate that you suggest??? More debt?

      Commenter
      Peter G
      Location
      Drummoyne
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 2:21PM
    • Peter G - Are you saying that it was a mistake to run deficits in the last 5 years?
      Could you explain why running s surplus (the govt taking money out of the economy) was the best option for the last 5 years and the effect it would of had on the economy?

      Commenter
      Macca75
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 2:40PM
    • The Gaurdian Peleeeaze...
      Next you will giving us links to 'The Green Left Weekly'

      Commenter
      Cwitty
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 2:52PM
    • Cwitty - Waht was wrong with the arguments made - play the ball not the man!

      Commenter
      Macca75
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 3:03PM
    • PeterG complains about another poster being one-sided? Whaaaaaaat????????

      Commenter
      Whyalla Wipeout
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 3:08PM
  • Peter G - our current deficit was incurred in part keeping us out of the GFC. It has been internationally recognised as great economic management.

    Contrast this with the 30 billion that Abbott's numbers are short because he over-promised. We would like the opportunity to comment on this missing money but the silence on this from Abbott is deafening.

    Commenter
    QED
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 3:39PM
    • The first two deficits were warranted however in hindsight could have been better targeted and more productive.

      Once we got into 2011 there should have been a balanced budget due to highest terms of trade and record commodity prices.

      Both have fallen substantially since 2011.

      They failed to manage the economy over the cycle and through incorrect macro policies/regulation sent non mining states into technical recession and have contributed greatly to a hollowed out economy where only boomer speculation on housing is keeping millions employed.

      Abbott and co won't do much better if they win government.

      If you want to know what the answers are to our challenges anyone from Ross Garnaut, Saul Eslake or Ken Henry have offered sound advice recently.

      Commenter
      Opinion Only
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 4:36PM
  • The other day Newman and the coalition where screaming blue murder that the boarder of Cape York and PNG was a hot spot for refugees...
    Today NOTHING nada nil about border control in that area.
    Also refugee health checks that normally takes 2 weeks, weren't mentioned at all by Abbott. By the gist of it it's all going to happen at seas.

    Commenter
    Tim
    Location
    InnerCity
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 2:08PM
    • Who's the boarder of Cape York?

      Commenter
      Lewis
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 2:38PM
    • @Lewis

      Abbott's Direct Action team.

      Commenter
      J. Fraser
      Location
      Queensland
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 3:01PM
    • :D Keep it up Fraze. Hey! Relatively Pen free today??

      Commenter
      Lewis
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 3:26PM
  • The policy document accompanying the immigration announcement says it "will cost around an additional $420 million to implement over the forward estimates period".

    "These costs will be more than offset by the savings realised from the reduction in boat arrivals to be achieved by the implementation of these measures and other elements of the Coalition's comprehensive border protection policies already announced."

    And if the boats don't stop it becomes another $420m on top of the $30b in unfunded promises.

    Commenter
    Macca75
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 2:02PM
    • Might boost the Indonesian economy. Lots of boat-building will be stimulated perhaps?

      Commenter
      Passionfruit
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 2:29PM
    • Make that three appallingly bad policies now, Macca. I can only hope that when Abbott is PM his own backbenchers will refuse to pass the legislation.

      Commenter
      Lewis
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 2:45PM
    • Lewis - If you aren't prepared to vote you lose your right to whinge about bad policy.

      Commenter
      Macca75
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 3:04PM
    • One never looses their right to whinge, judging from the sheer volume of it here. Anyway, I'm not whinging, merely pointing out. Call it commenting on the entertainment from the Lalalians of Lala Land.

      Commenter
      Lewis
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 3:31PM
  • Wow, Tony Burkes intel is pretty impressing, he has announced there are 760,000 boats in Indonesia, is this something you can just Google, can we get Fact-Checker to investigate the accuracy of his claim.

    Commenter
    Peter G
    Location
    Drummoyne
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 2:00PM
    • He actually quoted a a figure from a survey in 2004, he named it and where he got it from.
      There is probably a lot more now given it's been 9 years since the survey.

      Commenter
      Tim
      Location
      InnerCity
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 2:38PM
  • All the fisherman in Indonesia have just heard Abbott say "Hey, do you want a new boat?"

    Commenter
    Macca75
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 1:58PM
    • Yes macca, and apparently Kev and Burke are laughing about it too.

      From memory they did exactly the same thing when Abbott proposed a Northern Australia plan a few months ago.

      Then realised what a good idea it was ....

      Commenter
      Hacka
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 2:01PM
    • Abbottflation is the new word at all fishing ports in Indonesia.

      Brokers are looking to "Rodrigo" for advice on where to invest their new seafaring Australian dollars.

      Smart money is on cigar boats to get past the Aussie navy.

      Commenter
      J. Fraser
      Location
      Queensland
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 2:02PM
    • Hacka - There is nothing good about either parites NT policy!

      Commenter
      Macca75
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 2:42PM
  • Here comes the next big new money making scheme.
    Buy decrepit fishing boats and sell them to Abbott!
    I can already see hundreds of them being towed in from all round Asia to cash in on Tony's scheme.

    Commenter
    Steve
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 1:54PM
    • All the Aussie fishos will probably cry foul because they would want to Abbott to buy their old & decrepit boats first.

      Commenter
      Lewis
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 2:23PM
  • The other day Newman and the coalition where screaming blue murder that the boarder of Cape York and PNG was a hot spot for refugees...
    Today NOTHING nada nil about border control in that area.
    Also refugee health checks that normally takes 2 weeks, weren't mentioned at all by Abbott. By the gist of it it's all going to happen at seas.

    Commenter
    Tim
    Location
    InnerCity
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 1:47PM
    • Settle Tin, Settle, let’s not forget who created the problem, Kevin Rudd, the more solutions in place to overcome this problem the better in my book!

      Commenter
      Peter G
      Location
      Drummoyne
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 2:05PM
  • Bet when Kevin calls Ban Ki-moon today, there will be more discussion about his job prospects at the U.N than the conflict in Syria

    Commenter
    Isenz
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 1:47PM
  • 1:37PM Pommy Abbott just made a funny!!

    Commenter
    Steeden
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 1:39PM
    • God. How old are you? Three?

      Commenter
      Louis Cypher
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 2:29PM
    • @Louis Cypher
      Now, now, don't insult the three year olds

      Commenter
      hasbeen
      Location
      Umina
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 2:46PM
  • Bet Kevin would love to see his poster up there with all the other great egomaniacs of history,

    Unfortunately he'd have to go to China to find a wall big enough to take it.

    Commenter
    SteveH.
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 1:25PM
  • The Pulse @ 1:10PM

    Excellent photo of Il Duce, Hitler and Ribbentrop.

    A good shot of the Leader of a free Australia in the foreground.

    Got any photos of Murdoch ?

    Commenter
    J. Fraser
    Location
    Queensland
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 1:23PM
    • For a minute I thought Kevin was back in parliament house.

      Commenter
      Lewis
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 1:36PM
    • Fraze, it does look like Ribbentrop, but I don't think it is him, he's wearing a standard Werhmacht tunic, from memory I believe the German diplomatic corp had their own uniform.

      And he's smiling.

      I could be wrong.

      Commenter
      SteveHl
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 1:37PM
    • Could be the next IR minister.

      Commenter
      Lewis
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 1:42PM
    • Lewis I don't think so he'd have to be in the regalia of the Waffen SS for that job.

      Commenter
      SteveH.
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 1:50PM
    • The photo is of Erwin Rommel

      Commenter
      Riggers
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 1:58PM
    • Riggers wins the cigar! Well spoted.

      Commenter
      Lewis
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 2:17PM
    • "Prime Minisers Kevin Rudd gives blueberries to the media in Sydney on Friday"

      It seems Kevin Rudd is fast becoming
      'Con the Fruiter'

      Well he's had plenty of experience with the 'Con' part I suppose.

      Commenter
      SteveH.
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 2:32PM
  • Photo's 1:02 - 1:10pm.

    Kev's looking rather at home there.

    Commenter
    beasleyst
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 1:21PM
  • photo @1.02
    Mr Rudd was telling the kids...
    "Sure Mr Abbot can jump 42 Jerry cans in a single bound but can he jump this dead spider? No he can't .. Just sayin."

    Commenter
    Cwitty
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 1:21PM
  • IT’S NOT ON.
    Mr Abbott the self funded retirees who have diligently saved for their old age should not be penalised to pay for your grandiose parental scheme. Those of us over 60 years old who were too old to benefit to a large degree from superannuation , it is the franked dividends that keeps us off the pension, and believe me at times it is not easy. The $1.6 b taxed from companies that pay us the dividend to which already tax has been payed is worse that high way robbery. At our age we should not be used as cash caw so you can get the key to the Lodge. Tax the international miners at higher rate, as well as the polluters, but leave us in our old age with some dignity for which we have worked and saved hard, thank you.

    Commenter
    dinka Kourteff
    Location
    Adelaide.
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 1:19PM
    • This is why the PPL idea is a political winner. The sanctimonious lefties complain about Tony not looking after shareholders and profits for Blue chip companies and being too generous to working Mothers…. I don’t even know if you guys actually listen to yourself before you launch into Liberal campaigning….
      Rational people know that killing the Carbon Tax and Mining tax will result in more dividend income in their super funds. So desperate to find a ‘Gotcha’ the Labor fan club cannot see how much they are contributing to Abbotts inevitable success, as they complain about Tony being too progressive. Whilst desperately lurching to the right on Border protection, Labor have been outflanked on the Left on PPL and are now forced to argue against the progressives that would normally be voting for them.

      Commenter
      Cwitty
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 1:50PM
    • I thought the Polls were showing that everyone wanted $75,000 babies.

      Commenter
      J. Fraser
      Location
      Queensland
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 2:26PM
  • Well atleast those $75,000 babies are more likely to have a very high IQ.

    Commenter
    terry
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 3:37PM
  • Stephanie,

    I think Rudd's "advance" team have deserted him, just as most the party have!

    Commenter
    beasleyst
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 1:19PM
  • Seriously what is this kids thing with Rudd? Does he actually speak to any voters?

    Commenter
    Andrew
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 1:10PM
    • Yeh he speaks to the media about the Coalition, tha's about it.

      Commenter
      Rick
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 1:26PM
  • Another one for balance:
    http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2013/07/pascometer-cuts-through-the-fbt-hysteria/

    Commenter
    Believer
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 1:09PM
  • http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/opposition-leaders-miscalculated-peck-has-social-media-buzzing-20130822-2sei4.html

    The Pulse 9:43 AM ... "Dressing Abbott".

    Commenter
    J. Fraser
    Location
    Queensland
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 1:08PM
  • In some ways the best thing that could happen to the Labor party right now is Rudd losing his seat.

    If Labor do lose the election, a renewal process will need to start. There won't be able to be real renewal if the new leader (Shorten?) has the the large and toxic shadow of Rudd sitting over his shoulder on a daily basis, like Gillard did.

    Labor have spent six years talking about well, Labor. Before they're ready to govern again, they'll need to start talking about Australians.

    Commenter
    Hacka
    Location
    Canberra
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 12:46PM
    • Hacka, you are such an expert on the ALP. Funny how you guys never want to address the GREAT BIG LIE that is the Liberal's savings plan.

      Commenter
      Whyalla Wipeout
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 12:51PM
    • Wait on WW - you've been saying for weeks that there is no Coalition plan - have you found one ?

      By the way on a different topic The Pulse's very own Andrew Meares was the star of the 7.30 report last night. If you missed it, here's a link:

      http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2013/s3831851.htm

      Commenter
      Hacka
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 1:00PM
    • I've been saying that for months too. The ALP brand is shot. They need to go back and re-invent themselves. That can't be done whilst governing.
      I'm pretty sure the "faceless men" know it and will ensure Kev saves seats, but won't become PM again.

      Commenter
      beasleyst
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 1:13PM
    • In some ways, the best thing that can happen for the LNP (and Australia) is Abbott losing the election - This will mean the party can remove him and replace him with the more sellable option of Turnbull. If Abbott wins however, Liberal supporters will be stuck with him for at least three torturous years of cringe-worthy diplomatic gaffes.

      Commenter
      tim bob
      Location
      bra
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 1:13PM
    • beasleyst - remember though that after the 2010 election Labor (Carr, Faulkner, Bracks) conducted a review of the party.

      From the review, recommendation 25 stated: "That intervention in Party preselections by the National Executive and state administrative committees only occur as a last resort, rather than a first resort, and then only in exceptional circumstances."

      Seems all those Captain's picks and recent pre-selection results ignored the recommendations.

      Commenter
      Hacka
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 1:54PM
    • Hacka, there has always been a Coalition plan. It is to get power at any cost to anyone who gets in Abbott's way.

      Commenter
      Whyalla Wipeout
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 3:10PM
    • Agree tim bob. It's a win win. Whatever Rudd's flaws, he is the better PM candidate this time round. The lesser one is then taken out of the equation and we might get the best of a bad bunch for Opposition leader. While I'm no fan of Turnbull I'd feel better about a Coalition win the election after (assuming Turnbull continues with the Labor version of the NBN; would be hard not to at that point). So it's a WIN, WIN, WIN! Seriously people, is there anything wrong with that plan?

      Commenter
      Passionfruit
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 3:24PM
  • "Stop the boats", that's a big boat Anthony -that could tow a few leaky ones.
    And break a few international maritime laws.

    Commenter
    A country ga
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 12:42PM
  • So all we have from the Rudd campaign again today is photo's with children and statements attacking the Coaltion.
    Sept7 can't come quick enough. Then watch the knives come out inside the Labor party.
    It's going to be more interesting watching the Labor Party after they've been thrown out of office.

    Commenter
    PeterW
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 12:40PM
    • Will we be able to spot the difference?

      The last man standing may be j.fraser "by 10 seats".

      Commenter
      Louis Cypher
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 12:47PM
    • "Lois Cypher'

      That's provided I get invited to the Labor party celebrations.

      Commenter
      J. Fraser
      Location
      Queensland
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 12:53PM
    • Watch the "fake" smiles and support for Kevin from the Labor Ministers disappear over night.

      Commenter
      John
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 1:02PM
    • 10 seats, in your dreams J. Fraser, its going to be 20+

      Commenter
      Peter G
      Location
      Drummoyne
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 1:46PM
    • @"Peter G"

      My drinking abilities are over stated.

      I shall certainly be trying to be last one standing after a 13 seat majority to Labor.

      Commenter
      J. Fraser
      Location
      Queensland
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 1:57PM
    • Nice to see you have a sense of humour J. Fraser, may the best team win.

      Commenter
      Peter G
      Location
      Drummoyne
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 2:26PM
  • Photo 10:27am

    What has Bruce Hawker just said to Rudd?

    I'll start the ball rolling.

    "Tony just jumped 24 jerry cans"

    Commenter
    beasleyst
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 12:35PM
    • "It's Penriff"

      Commenter
      notlad
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 12:40PM
    • I think he said: 'Abbott's just jumped the shark. Can you believe he is going to buy back every crappy fishing boat in Indonesia?'

      Commenter
      Whyalla Wipeouty
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 12:48PM
    • @WW

      Probably envisages putting his Direct Action people in them as short term rentals.

      Probably only charge them $300 a week.

      And Hockey will tell them it makes economic sense.

      Commenter
      J. Fraser
      Location
      Queensland
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 12:59PM
    • ..."This bakery is out of pies.. are you happy with a couple of sausage rolls?"

      Commenter
      Cwitty
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 1:14PM
    • "Why are there so many people here? Don't they have jobs?"

      Commenter
      dRod
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 1:17PM
    • dRod, I'm a part-time property manager and part-time rebel without a cause (except at election time)

      Commenter
      Passionfruit
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 2:25PM
  • If the Coalition's boat buyback scheme was announced while Abbott was out jogging with the troops, is that policy on the run?

    Commenter
    Arky
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 12:33PM
    • Have to pay that one Arky.

      Commenter
      beasleyst
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 12:36PM
  • I can't work out whether Tony Abbott is more "Vladamir Putin", or "George Bush"?

    Commenter
    JTHooker
    Location
    Melbs
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 12:29PM
    • A combination of both perhaps. Lucky us!

      Commenter
      Passionfruit
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 12:36PM
    • I think it's George W Bush .... only not as intelligent.

      Commenter
      J. Fraser
      Location
      Queensland
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 12:54PM
  • Gotta laugh, honestly. Kev's crying to the media he's not getting good enough media coverage.
    Everytime his polls drop he drags out the old it's the media's fault, it's Murdoch's fault.
    No Kev, it's your fault.

    Commenter
    Kim
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 12:28PM
  • He does not want to remind people that in 2007 election most of the New Ltd papers endorsed him to become PM and most but not as many did in 2010 election when they endorsed Gillard as PM

    Commenter
    terry
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 3:35PM
  • http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/07/23/fbt-coverage-is-nothing-but-self-interested-hysteria/

    Commenter
    Mali
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 12:27PM
  • The most bizarre policy of the election so far: The Coalition is going to buy up the massive fleet of Indonesian fisherman's boats. Yea right. Stop smoking that stuff, it's bad for you.

    Commenter
    Tone
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 12:24PM
  • In all the Westfield photos, we only see Kev having one conversation! It's with a kid! AGAIN.

    Commenter
    notlad
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 12:23PM
    • Comfort zone!
      He's asking her for a "nice" post on Facebook.

      Commenter
      beasleyst
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 12:28PM
    • That's right - While tough Tony is out with the troops! What a great man he is!

      Commenter
      JTHooker
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 12:53PM
    • Hate to spoil your hate JT, but Kev was with the troops too, just last week!

      Commenter
      notlad
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 1:08PM
    • What Rudd went out on a training run with the troops and there were no photographers around?
      Or was it the time he went outside the wire?
      More likely a training run to the mess hall to get the pies for lunch.

      Commenter
      terry
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 3:43PM
  • Honestly, the complaints about too much coverage on "Western Sydney" (which does contain 2 million very varied people and 12 electorates, and is not actually a hive mind despite how the media seems to treat it as a single entity at times) are probably more about too much focus on the media's stereotypical Westy Bogan than actual Western Sydney.

    Commenter
    Arky
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 12:16PM
  • "Any parties expressing your concerns". LOL Wouldn't have a clue.
    All we hear about here is Abbott and his costings!

    Commenter
    Warren
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 12:12PM
    • All you can hear here is "Abbott and his costings" ?

      What are they ?

      Commenter
      J. Fraser
      Location
      Queensland
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 12:16PM
  • So Tony Abbott is able to exercise with the Army guys. There goes my vote to Tony. I would be proud to say to the world my PM is a triathlete, can do physical exercise etc.

    On the other hand K Rudd keeps talking and walking with toddlers and children at various schools.

    Sadly what a show pony this election has become. Australians deserve better.

    Commenter
    San
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 12:10PM
    • You will be able to stand beside the Tories in England when they say this is our simpleton Boris Johnson.

      Oh ! wait a minute just come up to Queensland and you can stand beside Abbott and his little mate (major) newman.

      A good photo opportunity for all.

      Commenter
      J. Fraser
      Location
      Queensland
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 12:14PM
    • J Fraser - your comments are becoming more shrill as your beloved ALP is about to fall

      Commenter
      Baltic13
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 12:26PM
    • J Fraser - your comments are becoming more shrill as your beloved ALP is about to fall
      Commenter
      Baltic13
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 12:26PM

      @Baltic13"

      Appears you are getting feisty while you hyperventilate.

      Commenter
      J. Fraser
      Location
      Queensland
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 1:01PM
  • Photo at 10:34.

    Kev is looking at that $20 like he's never seen one before.

    Commenter
    beasleyst
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 12:08PM
    • He's probably thinking he needs to ask Therese for more pocket money.

      Commenter
      Nulla
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 12:42PM
  • A few days ago, I needed to see the australian dollar rate, and I could not believe my eyes. How it was so strong money on the world for tha last 3 or 4 years as I know, it is getting weaker and weaker, and which identifies its economy is getting worse and worse from day to day. WHO is responsible for all these mess? LP, they should pay for this, namely, Julia Gillard. I don't understand Kevin Rudd, why he took the power just 1 month before the election??? All the wastes (shits) thrown for the last a few years should have been picked up by Julie Gillard's hands, not Kevin Rudd? Kevin Rudd is a clever man, but in this case he made an error. Julie Giilard should go through all these election to the end for LP, but now Kevin Rudd is struggling to the end, I understood that the Australian eceonomy is not strong as it was a few years ago, and its bank note is getting patterned coloured wall paper. Who is responsible for this? Labour Party, to change its leadership is its internal problem, in 2010, 2013, but they have no right to sacrifice 20 million people's life. It is completely different concept to lead a country from leading a party or washing party members' brain to get power and become a party leader, maybe Julie Gillard thought so. But now it shows everything. Kevin Rudd was a leader but I think, he losing his power. People are not stupid. Look at the economy. To conclude, LP deserve to pay for all these messes??? That's it.

    Commenter
    Bagi
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 12:05PM
    • Keep your money under the mattress.

      Your economics skills are woeful.

      Commenter
      J. Fraser
      Location
      Queensland
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 12:10PM
    • EGO.

      Commenter
      beasleyst
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 12:10PM
  • Did everyone see how many Liberal "stooges" were working at the markets this morning?
    Surely they were stooges, because they clearly didn't like Mr Rudd?
    What, they weren't? They were just hard working Australians! It had to be a set-up...
    Bloody Murdoch!

    Commenter
    byebyekev
    Location
    byebyeLabor
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 12:04PM
    • we are everywhere....54% of the vote and counting

      Commenter
      Stooge
      Location
      Flemo
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 12:11PM
    • There was a report that a person was removed from a coffee shop after giving the PM a mouthful - think there is a photo - the PM's trip to the markets was cut short to save him embarrassment the report says - people are waking up to Kevin13 - won't be pretty on the evening of 7/9/13

      Commenter
      Baltic13
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 12:14PM
    • Where did they get all that fruit and veg they were selling from?
      God Ruperts clever.

      Commenter
      Luke
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 12:17PM
    • Yeah it was all actually filmed at Fox Studios!
      It wasn't Kev - it was an actor (hold on, Kev is an actor!).

      Commenter
      beasleyst
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 12:22PM
    • @"Stooge"

      Do you all have the surname Lonergan ?

      Or is it "Stooge Poll" ?

      You should have taken the earlier advice from The Pulse and read this :

      http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/can-we-believe-the-polls-robopollsters-are-showing-strange-results-20130822-2sep7.html

      Commenter
      J. Fraser
      Location
      Queensland
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 12:23PM
  • Does the SMH follow Rudd and his policies and costings?
    All we get to hear and see about Rudd is cute photo's and him raving on about the Coalition and Abbott's costings.
    Don't you think your starting to over cook the chook a bit here.

    Commenter
    Dan
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 12:02PM
  • I wonder if Abbott's up to going through this again :

    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/dont-quote-me-says-tony-but-maaate-8230-20130816-2s1zy.html

    I wish some of the Abbott supporters could post something in praise of him .... I know they can't do it with his policies.

    Commenter
    J. Fraser
    Location
    Queensland
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 12:01PM
  • The COUNTRY is controlled by LAWS
    LAWS are controlled by POLITICIANS
    POLITICIANS are controlled by VOTERS
    VOTERS are controlled by PUBLIC OPINION
    PUBLIC OPINION is controlled by the MEDIA.

    That would be Murdoch.

    Commenter
    Bazza
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 11:59AM
    • Oh give us some credit. Any dim whit can see through the one-eyed reporting (left or right) in the media. Murdoch doesn't CONTROL us and neither does the ABC. We are all big enough to work it out for ourselves.

      Commenter
      The public
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 12:04PM
    • Bollocks, people are controlled by free to air television. No-one reads newspapers anymore. Other than Bolt, every "news" show leans to the left.

      Commenter
      I hate pies
      Location
      Qld
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 1:25PM
  • Looking at both our leaders it's like watching a snake having sex with a vulture..... It’s just business as usual in OZ Politics.

    Commenter
    Bazza
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 11:55AM
    • Is that you Cory ?

      Commenter
      J. Fraser
      Location
      Queensland
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 12:02PM
  • Is it at all possible to have another story about the Libs costings?

    Commenter
    Mark
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 11:54AM
    • Not until the new leadership of the Liberal Federal opposition takes over.

      Sometime after 8 September 2013 is as close as I can figure.

      Commenter
      J. Fraser
      Location
      Queensland
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 12:04PM
    • hahaha,

      "Julia Gillard will win by 10 seats"... J. Fraser (2012-2013)

      Commenter
      beasleyst
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 12:12PM
  • How's Abetz's comments - getting busted for talking about WorkChoices version 2. Man, what a fool. He knows it's Liberal policy not to let the population know all the things they're going to do until after the election.

    Commenter
    Tone
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 11:47AM
    • I'm shocked.

      Quick get out the gaffer tape.

      Commenter
      J. Fraser
      Location
      Queensland
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 11:53AM
  • Ah, yes Tony. What would Putin do?

    Commenter
    Brechnev
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 11:45AM
  • Unlike Rudd he would come a close second.

    Commenter
    terry
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 11:48AM
    • Fraser,

      Combet, Gillard, Swan etc, have already tried that.

      It failed, and now they are paying the price!

      Commenter
      beasleyst
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 12:14PM
    • Ah yes Kev, what would Kim Jong-un do?

      Commenter
      beasleyst
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 11:49AM
    • Ah yes Kev, what would Kim Jong-un do?
      Commenter
      beasleyst
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 11:49AM

      Declare war on Murdoch, Pell and Gina.

      Kim Jong Un would probably call it a war on terror (graph).

      Commenter
      J. Fraser
      Location
      Queensland
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 11:56AM
  • Theres been a surge of buying rickety old boats in Indonesia lately,i wonder why?

    Commenter
    Steeden
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 11:36AM
    • To outnumber the Australian Navy ?

      Commenter
      J. Fraser
      Location
      Queensland
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 11:48AM
    • Maybe we could have an annual Great Rickety Old Boats Race ala the ferryboat race in Sydney?

      Commenter
      Lewis
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 1:05PM
  • Were any of the girls from the Pussy Riot band watching Abbott go through his paces ?

    Commenter
    J. Fraser
    Location
    Queensland
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 11:34AM
    • Very early on the evening of 7/9/2013, the Australian voters' decision will be known - and I look forward to your post on the morning of 8/9/2013 . what will it be?

      Commenter
      Baltic13
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 11:51AM
    • @"Baltic 13"

      Abbott shouldn't have cried so much.

      Commenter
      J. Fraser
      Location
      Queensland
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 12:05PM
    • I thought so at first J.Fraser - turned out it was just Abbott's 'feisty' daughters again....

      Commenter
      tim bob
      Location
      'bra
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 1:53PM
  • Neither of the leaders has any blood in their veins. Where;s the passion? the conviction and commitment? Go on convince me, don;t put me to sleep. I can still hear Whitlam, Keating, Hawke even Calwell ringing in my ears. Where are the bell ringers today?

    Commenter
    peter
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 11:30AM
    • Didn't you hear Rudd at Geelong? I saw the whole speech and it was definitely in the mold of old Labor leaders. Meanwhile, back at the Abbott ranch, Forrest Gump is trying to string a sentence together. No wonder he wants Rudd to shut up! Least he knows how to charm the young ladies.

      Commenter
      Passionfruit
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 11:39AM
  • Doesn't KRUDD realise that those who take a 'selfie' don't yet vote. Maybe he is playing the long game.

    Commenter
    Oak
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 11:29AM
    • Even after losing this election Kev will be back. Again and again and again, until he finally gets the "closure" he so desires.

      Commenter
      notlad
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 11:33AM
    • Everyone knows the short game is the most harmful.

      Except the Abbott cheer squad.

      Commenter
      J. Fraser
      Location
      Queensland
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 11:35AM
  • Leunig @11.24

    Imagine, an idealist finding the real world falls short of their dreams

    Commenter
    yys
    Location
    You may say I'm a dreamer
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 11:29AM
    • Or as I heard someone else say somewhere, "You seem surprised that there are jerks in the world?"

      Commenter
      JTHooker
      Location
      Melbs
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 11:38AM
  • Leunig almost got it right,

    "the deluge of stories about the Essendon, Collingwood and Bronco's football club"

    Would have been more righter.

    Commenter
    J. Fraser
    Location
    Queensland
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 11:28AM
  • I would not be surprised if 99% of all Australians agreed with Michael Pascoe on this one :

    http://www.watoday.com.au/business/pork-barrelling-for-broncos-a-grubby-political-game-20130823-2sf89.html

    I wonder if Abbott will refuse Murdoch's input just as he has refused tobacco's money.

    Commenter
    J. Fraser
    Location
    Queensland
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 11:25AM
  • The idea of cutting GST returns down to one a year is of real interest to me. Being the government's tax collector is something I could do without - as a small business operator. This is the first real small business policy announcement that has appealed to me. People talk about red tape in business and yes there is a bit of it, but the GST stuff is one of the biggest burdens. I would love to see it simplified. Will we see some policy debate on this or will every journos questions to the pollies today be about robopolls?

    Commenter
    Mandy
    Location
    South West Sydney
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 11:17AM
    • Mandy you will still need to pay your GST every quarter and its better to do your GST return in full every Quarter as it will become a huge job at the end of the year.

      Commenter
      Insider
      Location
      Perth
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 11:22AM
  • I don't see the point of having an annual return if you still have to pay quarterly. You will still need to do the work and preapre an anlysis of your GST position to calculate your quarterly liability. Completion of the BAS return itself is the quickest part (its only a 3 line document for most people). The time consuming part is the claculation off the liability.

    Commenter
    NeoCon II
    Location
    Preparing for office
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 11:52AM
  • Of course the Robopolls are unrealiable. Any survey/poll that only uses landline telephones is going to underrepresent younger voters, who are more likely to vote Labor/Greens. Unless they include mobile phone polling, then forget about it

    Commenter
    Statsman
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 11:16AM
  • Why dont we poll dogs and cats?..one bark for Rudd or one hiss for Abbott.

    Commenter
    Steeden
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 11:11AM
    • I like the new funny Steeden :-)

      Commenter
      yys
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 11:25AM
    • ...And the sound of a leaf unrolling for the Greens...

      Commenter
      David D
      Location
      Ettalong Beach
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 11:47AM
  • If the raw anti-Labor sentiments evident at Flemmington Markets this morning were to be replicated on Sept 7 then the Robopolling results will be closer to the mark than the national demographically adjusted average 2PP vote reported by the traditional polsters.

    Commenter
    Lewis
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 11:10AM
    • If the raw anti-Abbott sentiment expressed in Northcote any day of the week were to be replicated on Sept 7 then the Coalition will be wiped out.

      Coalition commenters have this amazingly disproportionate idea of how many people in the country are on their side. They're in an echo-chamber.

      I'm in business. I know plenty of Coalition voters. I don't pretend everyone votes Labor. I also know there's plenty of people who see through the Coalition's flim-flam on the economy, who believe in climate change, who approve of the National Disability Insurance Scheme and the Gonski reforms and the NBN, and who aren't intolerant about gay people.

      Commenter
      Arky
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 12:01PM
    • Feeling a bit exasperated there Arky?

      Northcote is not a swinging marginal seat so irrelevant. BTW, I'm not a coalition anything. I would laugh just as loud if Abbott was dumb enough to go cruising for a bruising in Northcote.

      Commenter
      Lewis
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 1:00PM
  • Results of two experimental studies described constituted clear experimental demonstration of how polls influence voters. Findings showed that voters tended to vote for the candidate that they were told was leading in the polls. These poll-driven effects on votes were substantial.
    Effects of polls on votes tended to be operative throughout a wide spectrum of voters. Voters with initial (i.e., pre-poll) preferences ranging from undecided to moderately strong were influenced by polling data. There was a limit on poll effects, however, as noted in Study Two: Polls failed to influence votes when voter preferences were very strong to begin with.
    Additional findings of considerable interest showed that effects of polls were stronger for women than for men and also were stronger for more arousable (i.e., more emotional) and more submissive (or less dominant) persons.

    Commenter
    tim bob
    Location
    bra
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 11:09AM
    • As a woman, the women result depresses me. I would consider myself emotional, but maybe that is balanced out by being dominant and opinionated. Indeed, I'm one those contrary people who actually likes being in the minority! But I would vote on my extensive knowledge and values in the case of important elections.

      Are these studies Australian? What's wrong with us? What ever happened to liking the underdog...or feisty questioning of the status quo or what's popular? Are we men and women, or are we sheep? (No offence to sheep, sorry.)

      Commenter
      Passionfruit
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 12:46PM
    • Passionfruit - There appear to have been quite a few of these types of studies in recent years (many funded by right-wing think tanks most likely). Here's the first one I was reading about:

      http://www.kaaj.com/psych/abstract/pollsabstract.html

      Somehow, the fact that you are questioning your ability to be influenced by polls shows that the Polling Snowball effect probably doesn't affect you at all.

      Commenter
      tim bob
      Location
      bra
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 1:02PM
    • tim bob, I guess it's like the notion that if you think you are mad, you're probably not. Anyway...I'm very aware of all the influences and how we make judgments (have a PhD in psychology, but been out of the field for many years). Just don't like to read that my gender is more gullible in a sense. Not that I don't believe this!

      Commenter
      Passionfruit
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 1:22PM
    • I'm a big believer in Bell's Theorem - The act of observing (or being aware of) an act changes the act. Bell was talking about quantum particles, but you can apply the principle to anything and it still works, especially psychology.

      In short, the more people are aware of the Polling Snowball effect, the less likely the media will continue to rely on reporting bogus, biased poll results from newly-established, robo-polling companies. Spread the word!

      Commenter
      tim bob
      Location
      'bra
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 1:38PM
  • Love the shot of the PM in Westfield - the ETS shop in the top right....

    Commenter
    David D
    Location
    Ettalong Beach
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 11:03AM
  • KDudd's class warfare rhetoric sounds very hollow considering his missus is loaded and he acts like someone born of entitlement

    Commenter
    The taxpayer
    Location
    aurelia street
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 11:00AM
  • Mr Bradbury,

    I'd rather you "cut" the deficit!

    Commenter
    notlad
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 10:59AM
  • @Hacka
    But this has been the trend for Labor for the last 6 years. Take something working, break it, blame it on someone else, change its colours, and then try to fix itby blaming someone else. In the mean time, it cost us $$$$$$$$$$

    Commenter
    HubbaBubba
    Location
    Adelaide
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 10:57AM
  • Photo 10:34am.

    Another shaving cut Kev?

    Commenter
    beasleyst
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 10:55AM
  • Ed, Using a different screen-name for this response; how can we as Australians sit back and allow drug traffic into Australia and distributed locally, when this is the wording of a Headline now AFP seize 750kg of Colombian coke. I find it very questionable that under both Rudd and Gillard and thanks to their obscene spending, Customs now doesn't have the staff to monitor all shipping container traffic into Australia via several ports and secondly, monitoring has dropped from I think 60 to 11 per cent. The Federal Government continues to breed a disturbing environment which lends support to a warning from ASIO that, the real threat to this country's security will come from within? Surely, our borders need a massive injection of funding to protect this country and those who live within it?

    Commenter
    News-Watcher1
    Location
    Brisbane
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 10:53AM
  • First of all, thank you Age for publishing so many of my comments, pointing out the complete lack of media coverage of Aged Policy. Thank you for collecting them all together at the head of the page - I hope that they may be read by others than I.
    I am 88 years old, I am personally affected by the facts: briefly again - the Opposition policy consists of another 3-word slogan, 'Cut the paper-work.' I kid you not, that's it.
    The Gillard Labor government worked hard and long with leading Aged Care organisations to develop a comprehensive program, costing $3.7billion, LIVING LONGER LIVING BETTER. Ian Yates, CEO of COTA, called it a victory for the elderly, their families, aged care staff, and the industry.
    The Opposition voted against it in Parliament, it was passed with the help of the cross benches. Abbott now says 'he will not change it if he wins government, but he has made no costings and has not committed to fully implementing it. Do you trust him?
    Come clean Mr Abbott on what you have planned for us oldies beyond the 3-word slogan.

    Commenter
    Betty Birskys
    Location
    Kawana Q.
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 10:48AM
    • We meet again Betty! Great work. Yes, this is a very important area. We need the media and the voters to ask questions about this before Sept 7.

      Commenter
      Passionfruit
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 11:54AM
  • As a Westy born n bred. I can say it is V frustrating when people from out of the area assume we do not live in a Flash Suburb. "The people out here" don't like being sneered at and pigeon holed by prejudiced value judgments. There are million dollar properties just down the road from where the PM is right now. We have everyone from battlers Millionaires in the area described as South West Sydney. So we won’t all fall into line in some type of predictable club, especially when some out of Towner waltzes in and thinks he knows us. It’s Best out West! Doesn’t matta parrammatta we all know we live in a Flash suburb and we are more than the ‘People out here’… Don’t feel sorry for us Kev, worry about those poor hippies in the inner city.. we’re happy to let the fruit sellers at flemmo give you our feedback. We’ll just get on with it and look after ourselves like we always do..

    Commenter
    Cwitty
    Location
    Blaxland (electorate)
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 10:46AM
    • Well said, Cwitty. I might add that our Western Sydney has a bigger economy than that of South Australia. We drive the real economy in retail, services, construction & small business. I wouldn't live anywhere else.

      Commenter
      Lewis
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 11:28AM
    • Rudd should have been more careful in his words, I agree, but it's more a generalization based on median property values. I'm sure he's referring to areas like Mosman, Vaucluse, Point Piper, Hunters Hill, Balmain etc, which have high medians and therefore a greater proportion of wealth. Of course some wealthy people prefer other parts of Sydney. Heck, foreigners tell me that anyone who buys a house in Sydney must be pretty well off!

      Commenter
      Passionfruit
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 11:50AM
  • Why is the Coalition and Labor’s common goal on climate change completely nonsensical?

    Australia’s target for Greenhouse gas emission reduction is “5% below year 2000 levels by 2020”. According to United Nations Statistics Division our emissions in 2000 were 17.2 tonnes per capita with a population of 19.2 million = 330.24 million tonnes of emissions of which 5% is 16.51 million tonnes.

    However by 2002 our coal production was 220 million tonnes, by 2012-13 407.2 million with an expectation of reaching at least 611 million tonnes producing 1.747 billion tonnes of emissions in year 2020 alone. Deduct the emission target of 16.51 million from year 2020 produced emissions and target reduction is actually an increase of 1.73 billion tonnes of Co2 in that year alone that is a 1048% increase on the so called reduction? .

    The credulousness of calling it a reduction begs belief? Meanwhile Rudd and Abbott trumpet how they believe in climate change and will reach this much vaunted delusional reduction target? Hello, how unsuspecting, naïve, and gullible do they think we are?

    There is no reduction, none, zilch, not one atom. Having increased emissions by several billion tonnes and spent billions of taxpayer dollars in the process they add insult to injury, Rudd tells us that emissions are “falling and generally plateauing” and Abbott is to muster a 15000 Green Army?

    These are the clowns who expect you to vote for them?

    Commenter
    Pen of hrba
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 10:44AM
  • Work at Ford’s key Australian plants in Geelong and Broadmeadows was shut down yesterday and will be again today as car buyers flee the market in the wake of the FBT overhaul. Ford yesterday confirmed that the first of the six shutdowns had begun and the production closures in Victoria had been a direct result of falling demand due to the tax changes, which have been opposed by the Coalition. Where is the ACTU supporting their workers - more interested in saving their ALP - the PM blames the Opposition for not supporting more funds to the car industry - when the PM has caused this problem

    Commenter
    Baltic13
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 10:39AM
    • It's not about the workers. It's about removing a rort from the tax system that gave people a tax benefit when they were using their vehicles privately. I can understand the taxpayer subsidising business expenses that are legitimate business expenses, but I shouldn't have to pay for someone's private vehicle use.

      Australia will be better off removing this rort and redirecting the money to helping the car industry instead of propping up a rort industry.

      Commenter
      Tone
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 11:35AM
    • Hey Tone,

      If you are so concerned about "rorts", you would definitely be against the ALP supporting the unions denying they need to be run under similar "scrutiny" to company directors.
      Wouldn't you?

      Commenter
      beasleyst
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 11:53AM
    • Oh Tone,

      People will still fill out a log book under the ALP scheme. People will still "rort" their log books, if they are that way inclined. What happens Tone, if the money the ALP have already "spent" from this grab doesn't come in, just like the mining tax?

      Commenter
      notlad
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 11:56AM
    • I notice the Australian Salary Pinching Industry Association supports what you say. - all the more reason to disregard it

      Commenter
      David D
      Location
      Ettalong Beach
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 11:59AM
  • Who is cutting now?? I am confused it's too hard to keep up. Yesterday Mr Rudd told us that Mr Abbott was going to Cut Cut Cut. Now Mr Rudd has got the scissors out and wants to start cutting. Ironically he has become a cutter standing next to Bradbury who helped Julia Cut Rudd’s Grass back in 2010. The circle of life.. Hakuna Matata.

    Commenter
    Cwitty
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 10:29AM
  • Red tape removal - goodness me. Has anybody told Rudd that a several months ago Labor introduced a monthly reporting obligation for all businesses which pretended to help dig out some of the budget deficit ?

    If you want to remove red tape, reversing that one would be a great start.

    Commenter
    Hacka
    Location
    Canberra
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 10:25AM
    • Monthly obligation for all businesses? As an accountant I thought I would of known about this but please tell me more?

      Commenter
      Macca75
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:42AM
  • @Hacka
    But this has been the trend for Labor for the last 6 years. Take something working, break it, blame it on someone else, change its colours, and then try to fix itby blaming someone else. In the mean time, it cost us $$$$$$$$$$

    Commenter
    HubbaBubba
    Location
    Adelaide
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 10:54AM
    • HubbaBubba pure gold and sooooooooo true.

      Commenter
      ultra
      Location
      Mel
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 11:49AM
    • This change was for COMPANIES not BUSINESSES - massive difference

      Commenter
      Macca75
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 12:00PM
    • Good point Louis. Macca75 - you should run for Treasurer - Labor need someone who:

      a) can count and
      b) has worked in private industry.

      Commenter
      Hacka
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 12:00PM
    • Hacka - That change was for COMPANIES not BUSINESSES there is a massive difference - and not only is it for companies but those turning over more than $1m a year.

      Try and get your facts straight please

      Commenter
      Macca75
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 1:10PM
    • There is no monthly reporting requirement.

      Commenter
      Mandy
      Location
      South West Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 11:20AM
    • Macca,

      As an Accountant, you clearly have very few clients, as you spend all day every day sitting on these blogs.

      Do you mean ex-accountant? Or unsuccessful accountant?

      Commenter
      dRod
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 11:24AM
    • http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-10-22/tax-shakeup-puts-business-offside/4327340

      There you go Macca75 - you don't need to be a CPA member to get advice on these changes - The Pulse will provide it all for you. (okay you got me on "all" - it's for business with revenue over $20m).

      This one was a classic Labor red tape initiative. As HubbaBubba says - it wasn't broken but Labor reckoned they had to fix it, to help fix their fiscal recklessness.

      Commenter
      Hacka
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 11:27AM
    • Macca,
      As an Accountant, you clearly have very few clients, as you spend all day every day sitting on these blogs.
      Do you mean ex-accountant? Or unsuccessful accountant?

      Commenter
      dRod
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 11:28AM
    • An unaccountable accountant?

      Just like your preferred political affiliates.

      Commenter
      Louis Cypher
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 11:41AM
    • Hacka are you sure you*re not confusing reporting and answering the phone?...

      Commenter
      David D
      Location
      Ettalong Beach
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 12:07PM
  • Not a bad effort by Abbott in his 50's to physically keep up with professional soldiers in their 20's.

    Brings to mind the image of Rudd struggling to do a single pull up and having to get a minder to lift him up so his chin brushed the bar not so long ago.

    That aside, the men and women of the defence forces will hands down vote for the coalition given Labor's record in running down the nation's defence capability.

    Commenter
    Tim of Altona
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 10:25AM
  • Great images.. Reminds me a little of action man Putin. I wouldn't be suprised if we saw some footage of Abbott wrestle a bear.. he could do it reckon.

    Commenter
    Cwitty
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 10:53AM
    • Homophobic, ruling in the interests of a powerful elite... you know, I can see the Putin-Abbott comparison too.

      Glad to see we agree on something.

      Commenter
      Arky
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 11:47AM
    • Homophobic.. ??
      I hope that was supposed to be a comical reference to my comment that 'Abbott could wrestle a bear' otherwise it is out of order.
      Not true AND not cool Arky.

      Commenter
      Cwitty
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 12:37PM
  • Well, we did warn him about the sausages, didn't we.

    Commenter
    Pen of hrba
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 10:55AM
  • and the Rudd family is worth how many hundred million $$ as compared to Abbott family who has a mortgage debt level worse than Australia's (Hockynomics).
    But Tony's fit.

    Commenter
    Jacob
    Location
    Boonah
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 11:05AM
    • How are his computer/smart phone skills going ?

      Is that Sonny Bill ?

      Commenter
      J. Fraser
      Location
      Queensland
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 11:30AM
  • If Mumbles wants to look as tough as the 1AR boys he needs a couple of iron on tattoos and a buzz cut.
    If Matthias Conman wants to get into character and talk about secret cunning plans and treasures he needs the twirly moustache and cloak
    If Eric Yerbuts has a plan....ah forget it

    Commenter
    David D
    Location
    Ettalong Beach
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 10:24AM
  • Was watching Turncoat Shorten speaking this morning. They couldn't really be serious about him being a future PM could they?

    Commenter
    molly
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 10:24AM
    • If Abbott can be a potential PM, anyone can! Shorten would be a good PM IMO.

      Commenter
      Passionfruit
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:32AM
    • Molly
      Pure Gold y I just check that this is the same Bill Shorten who JG thought was a true and trusted friend would you be kind enough to revert back and confirm it is Molly.
      Cheers.

      Commenter
      ultra
      Location
      Mel
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:41AM
    • Just make sure the pies are hot!!

      Commenter
      Smokin Mo
      Location
      Ryde
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:44AM
    • Not if Bill Ludwig & Paul Howes have anything to do with it.

      Commenter
      Lewis
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:45AM
  • It's seamless, isn't it.

    The river of idiocy and lack of intellect that accepts the Rudd - Gillard - Rudd - Shorten leadership pin pong.

    Commenter
    Louis Cypher
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 10:57AM
  • The Liberal Party have a pattern of implementing policies that benefit the rich at the expense of the poor and middle class.

    Whether or not they implement an increase in GST, or reintroduce WorkChoices, you know that they want to do it.

    When in power, they can tweak laws to get what they want, and most of it probably won't get reported.

    They will shift more of the tax burden from the rich to the middle class.

    Commenter
    Tone
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 10:22AM
    • What you mean like winding back meanstesting on private health insurance, or cutting the schoolkids bonus, or removing the low income super rebate, or introducing a PPL theat pays $75k to millionaires or cutting taxes on high income earning super funds?

      Commenter
      Macca75
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:29AM
    • Ctrl X

      Ctrl Y

      Thanks Tone for your daily summary.

      Commenter
      Smokin Mo
      Location
      Ryde
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:33AM
    • Sounds like class warfare to me Tone. Funny how that term is only applied to those who question this and try to address inequality. A Labor PM should be saying the things Rudd is saying. Frankly, the Coalition has a history of tossing money around like it's confetti, with most falling on those who don't really need it.

      Commenter
      Passionfruit
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:36AM
  • That is typical arrogance of Kevin Rudd.

    Commenter
    Sarah of Carnegie
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 10:22AM
    • Hmmm, I think you'd better stop smoking whatever it is you're smoking as I don't think anyone here knows what you're referring to.

      Commenter
      Tom
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:29AM
    • Sorry, I clicked on the wrong link. It was in reference to him saying he was too busy to turn up for a debate in his own seat.

      Commenter
      Sarah of Carnegie
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:44AM
  • Apparently KRudd has consented to a re-match with the make-up artist at Rooty Hill next week.

    Commenter
    Halfback
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 10:22AM
    • He is getting pretty desperate, maybe he'll ask for a sleeve...

      Commenter
      Jodie-B
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:29AM
  • The Indonesian fishermen will be headed to the auctions to buy up every cheap clunked out boat they can find to sell to Abbott for a massive profit using our tax payers money!!Another thought bubble panic policy on the run from Abbott.

    Commenter
    Archer
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 10:18AM
    • You wont hear a peep out of the liberal posters on here about Abbotts latest GAFFE POLICY...Talk about hopeless.

      Commenter
      Sterling Archer
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:26AM
    • Of all the insane ideas that has to take the cake!!

      Commenter
      amro
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 4:10PM
  • let's use the armed forces as an electioneering prop? Reminds one of The Models song ...Man O' Action
    Pathetic Man O' Action

    Commenter
    Punter
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 10:14AM
  • The good people at Guinness world records have agreed to accept the photo @ 9.45 as proof that Tony now holds the world record for jerry can jumping. The alternative PM cleared 42 Jerry cans in one leap, surpassing the previous record by 2 cans.

    Commenter
    Cwitty
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 10:11AM
    • That should match his world record for being the worst opposition leader ever.

      Commenter
      Tone
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:26AM
    • Photo 9.47am
      Looks as though Tony has finally sold that which he has previously said he would not sell. Oh well See Tony Jump see Tony run see Tony's great big black hole. I have never seen any politician spend more time other than what he is paid to do. Is he claiming this as a living away expense or is there no book launch?

      Commenter
      RABBOT the Robot
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:46AM
  • It maybe a blessing in disguise if Rudd loses his seat. He will be hard to remove if the Labor is in opposition. He has such a vindictive personality with past history of undermining his colleagues in his own party.

    Commenter
    Sarah of Carnegie
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 9:56AM
    • Spot on Sarah,

      I reckon he is there just to save seats. If he even looked like he was going to win, the "faceless men" would bring him down first.
      Expect "leaks" close to polling day!

      Commenter
      beasleyst
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 11:42AM
  • 1AR hates Labor and Rudd - they took away the Regiments black beret's.

    1AR does not forgive.

    Commenter
    Bob from Ballarat
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 9:54AM
    • Wow, all over a beret? Good to see you have your priorities right...

      Commenter
      Tone
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:12AM
    • Ad i bet you love what Abbott said about our brave dead soldiers...right?...S..T Happens...right?

      Commenter
      Steeden
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:20AM
    • Those of us who have EARNED our beret would disagree with you.

      Commenter
      Bob from Ballarat
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:34AM
  • How come no coverage of Rudd's rough reception inside the sheds of Flemmington Markets, Steph? I heard the colourful language & the emphatic rebuffs from the workers & merchants myself but nothing about it here?

    Commenter
    Lewis
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 9:53AM
    • Lewis,
      I was working at the markets when Rudd came in and the staff were giving it to him. His minders actually cut the trip short so they could save him from the embarrasment. He certainly picked the wrong place to try and work his charm.

      Commenter
      Orange Man.
      Location
      Flemington
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:13AM
    • Ed, With the half-way point in this Federal Election campaign now reached, much can be said re the ALP's campaign and from reading through the responses posted so far on this page, Kevin Rudd's performance can't be ignored.
      We all know that the ALP doesn't like Mr Abbott leading the federal parliamentary wing of the Liberal Party and secondly, remain desperate to "score" some political points on him. However, let's not forget as we approach - polling day, that this country is in deep water and will need a rescue operation to be mounted. This morning, we learn that Ford is to wind back its operation due to the FBT and does the Rudd led government, really think that job security isn't under "growing" threat? It's not hard to realise that things aren't good for the Australian business community and this one. Why are official interest rates declining to a record low?? We should also remember that there was a swing away from Mr Rudd in his own seat, at the last election.

      Commenter
      Canberra Observer
      Location
      Brisbane
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:28AM
    • Ha ha ha.

      Rudd: G'day mate. I am really glad to meet you.

      Bloke: Yeah, well we're not glad to see you.

      Commenter
      Lewis
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:39AM
  • Good on Abbott for treating the soldiers as equals and getting involved. Unlike Rudd who made them sit in a semi-circle in the dirt like they were naughty school children.

    Commenter
    Nulla
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 9:52AM
    • You mean the same Abbott that said "SHIT HAPPENS" about our brave soldiers who died?..That same Abbott?

      Commenter
      Steeden
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:09AM
    • Well they were a big bunch of sweaty macho blokes. Abbott identifies with that. Now if they were a bunch of women....awkward!

      But perhaps he could creep up behind them and sneak a kiss.

      Commenter
      Tone
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:14AM
    • Abbott didnt treat them as equals when he said sht happens when our soldiers were killed.

      Commenter
      Archer
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:22AM
    • They were probably glad they didn't have to hear about surviving the Kokoda track or going over the wire in Afghanistan.

      Commenter
      Smokin Mo
      Location
      Ryde
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:31AM
    • Steeden, Steeden, Steeden, still having that comprehension problem I see

      Commenter
      I hate pies
      Location
      Qld
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 1:27PM
  • Mr Abbott

    Mens sana in corpore sano

    Commenter
    Louis Cypher
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 9:48AM
    • Mr Abbott

      Lupus in vestimentis ovium indutus

      Commenter
      Tone
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:16AM
  • Tone

    The only sheep here are the lambs being led to the slaughter by KRudd, the Dear Leader

    Commenter
    Louis Cypher
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 10:59AM
    • Mr Rudd

      "Omnis actio non loqui"

      Commenter
      Smokin Mo
      Location
      Ryde
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 11:33AM
    • Il sera le français ma chère

      Commenter
      Louis Cypher
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 11:43AM
    • Louis

      haha :-)

      Commenter
      yys
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 12:02PM
    • Reading Latin makes me go all weak at the knees, don't even want to know what it means.

      Commenter
      yys
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 11:22AM
    • Mr Abbott,
      Quidquid in lingua mortua dictum sit, cum mortis dictum est.

      Commenter
      Cwitty
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 1:05PM
  • Any photo's of Rudd being yelled at and people telling him to go away at the markets this morning.
    Shame I didn't have my camera with me.

    Commenter
    Rob
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 9:43AM
  • Here is the Business spectator view of Abbott PPL "tax grab"

    "Had the Coalition simply cut company tax by 1.5 per cent, without then topping that up again with a 1.5 per cent ‘levy’ (which is really a tax), all shareholders would be better off. The companies they own would have extra profit, extra money to invest. Shares would in most cases increase in captital value, as well as produce larger distributions down the line.

    However, the 3200 companies that will be slugged with the levy represent nearly 80 per cent of Australian company earnings. So the SME sector gets a boost with a tax cut starting in July 2015, but big companies actually go backwards.
    That’s because to give their shareholders the same yields they’re used to, they will have to dip into funds otherwise earmarked for re-investment in the business
    the tax grab is worth around $1 billion.

    Commenter
    Macca75
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 9:33AM
    • I think they can afford it. Nice to know you care about shareholders though...I thought you would think they were those nasty fabulously wealthy folk.

      Commenter
      thereisnoyouinLabor
      Location
      brisbane
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 9:55AM
    • The biggest losers are superannuation funds and charities given their preferential tax treatments - so that is every ordinary worker and the people who help the less privileged - do you really think they can afford it just to give high income earners $75k?

      Commenter
      Macca75
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:02AM
    • Oh no thereisnoyouinLabor not a bit of it, us leftys know that we're all shareholders now because of Superannuation

      So that means that the retirement savings of EVERY WORKING AUSTRALIAN will be hit with A GREAT BIG NEW TAX to pay for this paretal leave scheme if the LNP win the election

      Commenter
      thereisnoyouinliberaleitherbuttheylieandsaythereis
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:16AM
    • I agree with you on this one, Macca75. It is an appalingly bad policy and an abuse of the tax & transfer system. The other howler is Direct Action.

      Commenter
      Lewis
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:35AM
    • Yes Lewis you are right on direct action but you could also include removing means testing on things like the private health insurance rebate or reversing the tax increase on high income super funds.

      But I despite all this you will still vote Liberal I suppose.

      Commenter
      Macca75
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:46AM
    • No, I don't vote at all. I don't believe in any of them. Before you start, I also do not believe that in protesting a flawed process by boycott I therefore abrogate my right to criticise the results of that flawed system.

      Commenter
      Lewis
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 11:44AM
    • Macca,

      Did you read what you posted? They said these companies would have to still maintain their dividends (otherwise shareholders will drop them), so the shareholder does not lose out like you claim!
      There will be other factors that will help these businesses profit such as the dumping of the GST, etc. So to use the PPL on it's own is very mis-leading.
      I would have thought an "Accountant" would understand this....

      Commenter
      beasleyst
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 11:47AM
    • Beasleyest - did you read what I posted "That’s because to give their shareholders the same yields they’re used to, they will have to dip into funds otherwise earmarked for re-investment in the business" at some point it will bite

      Commenter
      Macca75
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 12:02PM
    • If I've learnt anything from Abbott, and I haven't, it's that taxes on business are passed onto customers (us). Wasn't that the whole basis of the carbon tax scare campaign?

      Money taken from business and given to PPL rich women will ultimately be paid for by us with increased prices.

      Commenter
      QED
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 4:05PM
  • Thredbo up there in the Sandy Mountains must be desperate to elect the Rudd government based on Mike Kelly's comments yesterday.

    And as for Saline Valley - where will we get cheese from if Abbott is elected ?

    Eden-Monaro is becoming one bellwether seat where the bells might be ringing.

    Commenter
    Hacka
    Location
    Canberra
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 9:29AM
  • Just what is the media's problem Stephanie? They don't like getting up at 4am?

    Well the poor dears I suggest they toughen up because 4 am rises are a taste of the real world for them.

    Nurses, personal trainers, news agency workers and owners, builders, shift workers, street cleaners, you know the real workers, all get out of bed at this time. So exactly what are they whingeing?

    Commenter
    Sharron
    Location
    Canberra
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 9:25AM
    • Another smarty pants who thinks they KNOW who "real" people are. Like the nurse who works 6pm-6am doesn't get up at 4am but s/he seems pretty "real" to me. What's so bleeding wonderful about getting up at 4am anyway. Why do builders start at 7am, they don't in other countries - but they're still "real" MEN.

      Commenter
      Norm
      Location
      Maroubra
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:39AM
  • Sorry, but what's a half time 'hooter'
    In AFL we have a siren.
    Is a 'hooter' a rugby thing?

    Commenter
    yys
    Location
    Translation please
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 9:24AM
    • Oops! Scores... Hooters... Must be a Rudd thing.

      Commenter
      Puzzled
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 9:40AM
    • Hooter makes sense to me. Sirens are for ambos etc. And I'm a Rewls fan too.

      Commenter
      Norm
      Location
      Maroubra
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:04AM
  • Only two more weeks to go and the libs still have to find $30b in savings without announcing any additional spending.

    Commenter
    Macca75
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 9:22AM
    • Desperate comment. Must be tough for you lefty's. You have absoultely nothing else to talk aboout.

      Commenter
      Rob
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 9:45AM
    • Why is it desperate to ask where $30b of savings are coming from? Even Saul Eslake (hardly a lefty) is backing the figure.

      Why do you conservatives get so wound up about ALP spending but not care about Liberal spending - is it just becasue the liberal spending goes to the wealthy while the ALP spend money on the poor?

      Commenter
      Macca75
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:04AM
    • Only two more weeks to go and Labor still hasn't explained how it will fix the $300 billion black hole it has left for the next government.

      Commenter
      Nulla
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:19AM
    • Yes, why aren't you talking about Abbott's personality like everyone else. Get with the program. Don't ask awkward questions. Vote for Abbott and don't dare criticise anything.

      Don't talk about the GST, don't talk about slashing services, don't talk about possible tax increases.

      Commenter
      Tone
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:19AM
    • Nulla - I'm pretty sure that "$300b black hole " doesn't get fixed by spending $30b you haven't announced savings for!

      Commenter
      Macca75
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:27AM
    • The socilaists are getting more and more precious by the day. No doubt a big wake on the 7th when they realise the gig is up and no more spoon feeding of taxpayers money.

      Commenter
      Krudd - Mudguard
      Location
      All shiny on top and and you know what underneath
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 3:09PM
    • There'll be a fire sale of assets.Murdoch can have the ABC,SBS,NBN cheap as a big Thankyou.

      Commenter
      A country gal
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 4:13PM
    • Well, thats still more than libs have to talk about mate. No realistic policies, no indication how any of their fairy floss promises going to be funded, well.......

      Commenter
      hhmmmmm
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 4:13PM
  • It has taken the media a fair while to work out that Rudd is in danger of losing his own seat of Griffith. Good luck getting "the real folk" to vote for you Kevin, instead of Dr. Bill Glasson. Either way, Rudd will be replaced in this seat. Labor are losing the election, and there is no way that Labor will keep Rudd as leader after that. Glasson will win a subsequent bi-election by a country mile.

    Commenter
    Facts are
    Location
    Brisbane
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 9:21AM
    • The robopolls which are far out of step with the national polls are almost certainly wrong. Robopolling has a history of trending conservative; polling which doesn't call mobile phones definitely has a history of trending conservative; both together is a bad combination.

      Commenter
      Arky
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 9:58AM
    • Rudd was to busy to turn up to a debate in his own seat last night. His excuse was that "I'm to busy, I have a country to run" then proceded to sent along a junior senator in his place. No wonder he has no support.

      Commenter
      Orange Man.
      Location
      Flemington
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:17AM
    • Kevin Rudd was on a TV show last night - more of the $70B blackhole lie - more important to have his face on TV then face his own electorate

      Commenter
      Baltic13
      Location
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:30AM
    • That no-show will cost him some votes. I heard up to a 1,000 locals bought tickets & were quite annoyed when he cancelled at the last minute.

      Commenter
      Lewis
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:32AM
    • He debated Glasson last week, give it a rest.

      Commenter
      Norm
      Location
      Maroubra
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 10:36AM
  • Norm Maroubra - so you are an expert on what happened last time then? What was the result of that debate? What happened last night - can you enlighten me?

    Commenter
    Baltic13
    Location
    Date and time
    August 23, 2013, 10:52AM
    • Norm. Nice try, but fairly uninformed. There were more candidates there last night than Dr. Glasson. How about a few marginal Labor seats? Wayne Swan was one, Graeme Perrett was another. Rudd couldn't be bothered trying to help those Labor mates out.

      Commenter
      Facts are
      Location
      Brisbane
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 11:20AM
    • Wow! So because I'm voting for Rudd over Abbott...that means I'm not real!?!?

      Truly this is some deep, metaphysical shiz. We're through the looking glass here Facts....

      Commenter
      tim bob
      Location
      bra
      Date and time
      August 23, 2013, 1:05PM
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