MPs greet the family of Corporal Cameron Baird VC MG. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen
The Senate continues to chat, and should be done by about 9pm, but the House has risen for the week.
With that, it's time for us to bounce.
What did we learn today?
- Don't come expecting assistance from the government. Unless you are a plane company or make chocolate;
- We don't need to pray for the Lord's Prayer. It is sticking around Parliament for (at least) a little while yet;
- Politics is full of balance. The government is pointing the "you wrecked the economy!" finger at the opposition over jobs, while Labor points the "you don't have a plan!" finger right back;
- Never assume. If you're an MP, always check which side of the parliament you're supposed to be sitting on; and
- When it comes to the internet, it's not just what you put up. You also need to be careful of what you take down.
Parliament breaks for a week now. It will return on February 24, when the House will sit and the Senate has Additional Estimates hearings.
Alex Ellinghausen, Andrew Meares and I will see you then.
We'll leave you with one of the images of the announcement Corporal Cameron Baird's VC - a special but very sad day for the Parliament.
It's good to know you can always be yourself.
Leader of the House Christopher Pyne during question time. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen
But no matter how you're feeling
Foreign Affairs Minister Julie Bishop during question time. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen
There are times at the despatch box when only a robot dance will do.
Immigration Minister Scott Morrison during question time. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen
As one MP (not Joe Hockey) described things to me today: parliament schmarliament.
Treasurer Joe Hockey and Prime Minister Tony Abbott arrive for question time. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen
The eyes have it.*
*Sorry, couldn't help it.
Prime Minister Tony Abbott arrives for question time on Thursday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen
As we round the corner to home time, and MPs scurry to the airport to catch their flight out of Canberra, we present PHOTOS WITHOUT NOTICE.
The Greens had more luck with their motion on Australian journalist Peter Greste, who has been detained in Egypt, accused of backing the Muslim Brotherhood.
This saw the Senate note with "deep concern" the charges against Greste and his fellow al-Jazeera journalists.
And call on Tony Abbott and Foreign Minister Julie Bishop to make "direct contact" with the Egyptian government to seek "the immediate release of Greste and 19 other individuals detained".
The motion, moved by Christine Milne passed just before midday.
A couple of updates from the Senate.
Praying has survived the day.
Richard Di Natale's bid to have the Lord's Prayer sent to the Procedure Committee was "negatived" around midday, failing to get support needed from Labor (see: 10.54am post).
Labor argued that the committee has the capacity to look at the issue as part of a broader review of the Senate's standing orders.
Di Natale says the Greens will keep pursuing the change.
While on the topic of industry assistance, we note some comments earlier today by Queensland Coalition MP George Christensen.
George may be known to some of you as the mad keen Doctor Who fan (complete with blow up Dalek).
But the member for Dawson is also angry about car companies taking government funds and then still leaving the country.
The kid gloves have to come off, he told ABC TV today.
"They have almost been a parasitic industry on the taxpayer ... "
Christensen reckons that after "mooching off" taxpayers, they should hand the millions they've received in recent years back to the government.
Granted, he reckons this is unlikely, because "they don't give a stuff" about Australia.
(Who says MPs don't talk plain English?)
Chief Political Correspondent Mark Kenny has been thinking about the Qantas situation - and the government's response to it.
"[The] storm is here," Mark writes, "prompting Qantas and the Abbott government to consider options ranging from the previously unthinkable to the most percussive."
Foreign minister Julie Bishop at the conclusion of question time at Parliament House in Canberra on Thursday. Photo: Andrew Meares
Folder you later.
Time for me and my folder to get out of here.
Prime Minister Tony Abbott at the conclusion of question time on Thursday. Photo: Andrew Meares
What a wild and woolly question time that was.
It veered from jobs to industry assistance to Craig Thomson to Fiona Nash and back again.
Seven Labor MPs didn't survive the session.
And it will be interesting to see what happens with the Nash issue, now that it has jumped the Senate's containment lines and is now in the lower house too.
In the Senate, discussion about her explanation of the chief-of-staff/website affair continues.
DLP senator John Madigan has just talked about how long he is known Nash and what a good job she will do as minister.
Labor's Claire Moore says that questions about Nash are not attacks on her decency.
"That is not true."
At 3.11pm Tony Abbott calls an end to question time - the last of the week.
He asks, after 25 questions, that "further questions be placed on the notice paper".
Despite the larger-than-standard number of questions, there are still groans from the Labor side as though the session has been cut short.
A dixer to Assistant Minister for Education Sussan Ley on childcare costs sees Labor lose yet another MP.
It is Greg Combet's replacement in Charlton, Pat Conroy.
"He will not put his hand to his mouth to make it a megaphone," Madam Speaker scolds.
Burke is very persistent with the Nash questions today.
I make it four questions now.
The most recent one refers to Minister Nash's "intervention" to remove the healthy food star rating website.
Given we know this intervention occurred in the context of a serious conflict of interest, why did the government not immediately reinstate the web site? When did the government change its policy on this issue and why?
Abbott repeats Nash's argument that the website was taken down because it wasn't "ready".
(The implication here is that it was not taken down because Furnival had links with junk food companies through his connections to a lobbying firm).
An update on where the Nash/chief-of-staff story is at.
Health editor Amy Corderoy reports today that the senior bureucrat in charge of the new healthy food star ratings website (at the centre of the conflict-of-interest questions) has been stripped of responsibility for the program.
Kathy Dennis, the assistant secretary in the Healthy Living and Food Policy branch of the Department of Health, has announced she will no longer be in charge of the healthy star ratings, amid conflict of interest claims.
Nash has been quizzed on the matter during Senate question time this afternoon.
James Massola reports that veteran Labor senator John Faulkner has pressed Nash over who made the decision to pull the site down, with Nash taking repsonsibility for it.
The Assistant Health Minister declined to comment on "hypothetical discussions" between her staff and the department, brushed aside questions about whether she or her staff expressed dissatisfaction with Dennis, and said she had no direct knowledge of the decision to move Dennis of her former repsonsbilities.
Assistant Health minister Senator Fiona Nash during question time in the Senate on Thursday. Photo: Andrew Meares
Sensing a theme here.
Burke comes back to Abbott with another question regarding Nash and her chief-of-staff, Alistair Furnival.
I refer to the fact that in the Senate, Senator Nash has stated all information was given to the PM's office. In light of that, when did the PM or the PM's office become aware that Senator Nash's chief-of-staff had a shareholding in the food industry lobbying firm, Australian Public Affairs?
The Prime Minister takes the question on notice.
"If there is anything to come back to him on, I will."
Tony Abbott in question time. Photo: Andrew Meares
The questions around Assistant Health Minister Fiona Nash and her chief-of-staff have now made it to the lower house.
Tony Burke has just asked the PM:
I refer to the Employment Minister's statement at Senate estimates that the PM avails himself of all forms of advice in relation to staff appointments - 'at the end of the day they are the PM's decision'.
Why did the PM appoint Senator Nash's chief-of-staff when he had a shareholding in a food industry lobbying firm?
Abbott refers Burke to "answers that have been given in the Senate".
Craig Thomson's successor in Dobell - Liberal MP Karen McNamara - has just asked Christopher Pyne the following question:
How will the proposed royal commission into trade union governance and corruption prevent honest workers from being ripped off by dishonest union bosses?
This of course gives Pyne spacious room with which to chat loudly about union dodginess.
"I welcome this question from the member for Dobell, who is a very good member who replaced a very bad member ..."
Perhaps it is not so surprising that two more Labor MPs, Graham Perrett and Tim Watts were kicked out in the process of this.
We also note that McNamara herself has recently been drawn into a controversy about political donations on the NSW central coast.
The government is not short of robust heckles itself.
Scott Morrison's dixer on border protection (what challenges are there here?) sees Labor frontbenches described as "the captains of border chaos".
Scott Morrison during question time. Photo: Andrew Meares
During all this, the following chocolate-based heckle comes from the Opposition:
"Where's your hat, Willy Wonka?"
The PM then goes on to explain, the difference between Cadbury (federal funding yes) and SPC (federal funding no) is that one was a "grant for tourism infrastructure".
"It has nothing to do with the business as such."
The Hunt carbon tax dixer over and done with, Plibersek takes the next Labor spot, returning to her last question on SPC/ Cadbury.
She speed reads through it this time.
Although, the government cannot resist a couple of cracks.
Ewen Jones interrupts on a point of order, reminding the Labor deputy that she only has 30 seconds.
Tony Abbott begins his answer by observing:
"If the Leader of the Opposition didn't hog so many of the questions, maybe some of his fellow frontbenchers would get some practice at asking a question ..."
Tony Burke protests on Plibersek's behalf - questions "following the context" have been allowed before.
"Not while I have been in the chair," Madam Speaker shoots back.
The deputy leader, in such a position "ought to be able to comply".
Labor deputy Tanya Plibersek now has a question for the PM.
And oops! It is a bit of an airswing.
She refers to Abbott's statement to the house this week, when he said: "one thing this government is not going to do is simply hand over $25 million in borrowed money to a highly profitable company that made $215 million in after tax profit last year."
I also note a few hours ago, Cadbury's overseas parent company reported a profit of $3.9 billion in 2013 ...
The last bit of the question is not picked up because Plibersek's 30 seconds are up, and the mics are turned off.
Madam Speaker rules that the question has not been asked and thus moves on to the next dixer (on the carbon tax to Greg Hunt).
The crossbench question today is from Greens deputy, Adam Bandt, and is about the East West Link.
Bandt wants the PM to abandon federal funding to "this toxic project" which will "wreck" inner-city Melbourne.
Abbott makes a dig about the Greens and Labor being on a "unity ticket" on this one.
And Shorten is referred to as Bandt's "collaborator".
Melbourne Labor MP Mark Dreyfus is kicked out in the hollering that ensues.
(This is his second time in the sin bin this week.)
Warren Truss has just been dixered on infrastructure projects as a means to pep the house up.
And the House gets very rowdy indeed.
The Deputy PM lists various roads, but Labor (via Albo) protests these are not projects begun under the Coalition.
Truss also notes that Labor was "all talk but very little shovel".
Three Labor MPs get booted in the process.
Victorian MP and health spokeswoman Catherine King, Albo and Kate Ellis.
Shorten comes back with another jerbs question.
Why has the government failed to develop a plan to stand up for Australian jobs?
Christopher Pyne doesn't like it ("full of argument and supposition") but Madam Speaker lets it stand.
"Where's our plan?" Abbott replies, starting to wind up a tad.
"Our plan is to get rid of the carbon tax ... Our plan is to get rid of the mining tax."
The primo dixer also stays on the jobs/ economy theme.
It's from Fiona Scott (you know, of the "sex appeal" comment).
What's the government's plan for a stronger economy?
The PM repeats what is becoming a classic line for the government.
"We have made a good start."
But he then pleads: "We have only had five months."
"We did inherit a mess."
Question number 1 is from BS to TA and is on jobs.
(You guessed it?)
When will the PM give us a real plan and start fighting for Australian jobs?
Abbott says he "very much" regrets the unemployment figures today.
"Members opposite can hardly blame this government for the consequences of their own policies."
MPs are now assembled in the House for the last question time of the week.
We begin, however, with statements on indulgence to mark the sixth anniversary of the apology to Australia's indigenous peoples.
Tony Abbott calls it an "historic day".
And says he wants to place on record "our appreciation of what Kevin Rudd and Brendan Nelson [as leaders] did that day".
Bill Shorten praises the "remarkable moment when Prime Minister Rudd said sorry".
Briefly, back to SPC.
Sharman Stone is addressing the media, while holding some tubs of Goulburn Valley fruit.
The announcement today by the Victorian government is "about the survival of fruit processing in Australia".
But Stone has this message for the government: "we have a serious job to do in levelling the playing field for Australian [companies]."
Liberal MP Sharman Stone comments on Thursday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen
Thus far, no assistance package has been announced for poor Nickolas Varvaris, after he ended up on the wrong side of da House yesterday (see: 10.21am post).
But here's the video, so you can see for yourself (keep an eye on the back left corner).
'Dozing' MP brings the house down
RAW VISION: Liberal Sydney MP Nickolas Varvaris votes with Labor after appearing to sleep through a division on Wednesday night in Canberra.PT2M58S http://www.canberratimes.com.au/action/externalEmbeddedPlayer?id=d-32k1i 620 349 February 13, 2014
"We have got to do something."
Clive Palmer, Andrew Wilkie and Bob Katter on Thursday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen
There's a lot of talk about help and rescues today.
Along with Qantas and SPC, and a call from the National Farmers' Federation for a new drought fund, Clive Palmer has also been calling for a national emergency fund to provide quicker relief for businesses and communities after natural disasters and industry crises.
As Matthew Knot reports, Palmer is looking at a private members' bill to examine the best way to launch the "Australia Fund".
Catchy title, no?
Bob Katter, Cathy McGowan and Andrew Wilkie are also in.
From the Blue Room in Canberra we scoot to a very green backdrop in Victoria.
Premier Denis Napthine is pledging $22 million to help SPC Ardmona.
Victorian Labor has already pledged $30 million, should it win the state election later this year.
(As you know, the federal government has pledged $0 million.)
Nappers is calling this a "great day" for Shepparton, jobs and Victoria.
Hockey is asked about an interview he has done with The Wall Street Journal on the government's plan to sell up to $130 billion in assets.
Does it make you more cautious about what you choose to sell off, given that Qantas has come back asking for government help?
"Governments around the world have run out of money and governments around the world have assets," he says.
"The private sector is loaded up with cash."
"The jobs package is to improve the strength of the overall economy."
Treasurer Joe Hockey on Thursday. Photo: Andrew Meares
Gorillas are often used in economic analyses.
And why not? They're big and hairy and closely related to humans.
The Treasurer makes use of this now to compare Qantas and Virgin.
"It's all well and good to place those restrictions on those entities when you sell them and they're the 800-pound gorilla in the market, but along comes a 3000-pound gorilla from somewhere else and all of a sudden the restrictions you put in place are to the great disadvantage of the country and that individual enterprise."
Hockey. Blue Room. Thursday. Photo: Andrew Meares
Is the government working on a specific jobs package in light of the figures today?
"The jobs package is to improve the strength of the overall economy."
Treasurer Joe Hockey on Thursday. Photo: Andrew Meares
JH is then asked about Qantas.
"It's not secret what they've been facing," he says.
The Treasurer adds he wants to see the company undertake change that "helps themselves before they come to us asking for help".
Hockey describes the jobs figures today as "disappointing".
They reveal the "unfortunate reality of six years of Labor government".
He says he wants to emphasise that the Australian economy can get much stronger.
The Treasurer calls on Labor and the Greens to repeal the carbon and mining taxes.
Treasurer Joe Hockey during a press conference at Parliament House on Thursday. Photo: Andrew Meares
With Shorten and O'Connor done, it's Joe Hockey's turn with the conch.
He is in the Blue Room, speaking about the jobs figures today.
(as an aside, in a blue suit and blue tie, he is almost camouflaged against the blue curtain backdrop.)
The Labor leader is also asked about the Qantas question.
Would Labor be prepared to back whatever assistance the government comes up with?
Shorten repeats Labor's position that it is important that Qantas remains majority Australian owned.
"We think its important to have a national aviation carrier," he says.
"We will work with the government."
"It is frustrating ...that the government cloak all their actions in secrecy."
(So no clear answer on whether Labor would back a debt guarantee.)
Shorten is asked about how much responsibility Labor should take for these really bad numbers.
He says this is not about "the blame game".
"Our concern is there is more pain coming down the road as industry adjusts and our real fear is that the Abbott government doesn't have a plan to do anything with jobs."
Meanwhile, out in the green grounds of Parliament House, Bill Shorten and Labor employment spokesman Brendan O'Connor are holding a doorstop about jobs.
This comes after new jobs figures were released this morning, which have the unemployment rate at 6 per cent - the highest level in more than a decade.
3700 jobs were lost in January.
O'Connor describes the figures as "damning".
"These are really, really bad numbers."
The Qantas Sale Act currently limits foreign ownership to 49 per cent.
Virgin has no such restrictions.
When it comes to meeting pre-conditions for government assistance, Hockey has said:
"Number one is existing restrictions on the business imposed by the parliament. Number two is if it's an essential national service, and number three is if it is in an environment where other sovereigns are engaging in direct competition to the massive disadvantage of an Australian business, then you need to take that into account."
The fourth pre-condition is "the business has to do its own heavy lifting on its own reform".
In breaking news, James Massola and Peter Hartcher report that Joe Hockey has signalled that the government is ready to throw a lifeline to Qantas.
In an exclusive interview with Fairfax Media, the Treasurer said in his view, the airline's request for assistance meets essential pre-conditions.
Doug Baird is then asked to talk about what Cameron was like.
He recalls his son an outstanding athlete, who was once the Australian champion for discus. And who could have been drafted as footballer, were it not for a shoulder injury.
He was also humble man.
Doug Baird concludes by reading out the soldier's code.
And becomes very emotional while doing so.
"I have the honour to be a soldier in the Australian Army ..."
The Baird family. Photo: Andrew Meares
Corporal Baird's brother, Brendan, speaks on behalf of the family.
"Today is a proud day for the Baird family.
It is a tremendous honour for us to be here on Cameron's behalf for this announcement.
We would like to thank the Australian Army and the Australian Defence Force for the recognition this award bestows upon Cameron, our son and brother.
As a loving family, this is a bittersweet moment. As Cameron is no longer with us."
Tony Abbott has just hosted a brief press conference with Corporal Baird's family in the Prime Minister's courtyard.
It begins with Defence chief David Hurley describing the day as one of "mixed emotion".
"Enormous pride in the great courage Cameron Baird showed ... but it is a very sad day, as you can well imagine," he says.
"It is important that we acknowledge today his family, support them and honour them."
Prime Minister Tony Abbott accompanies Doug, Kaye and Brendan Baird for a press conference. Photo: Andrew Meares
Hi again, apologies for a bit of a delay there.
The pixies have been pixie-ing around our publishing system.
Corporal Baird is already a recipient of the Medal for Gallantry.
He is now known as Corporal Cameron Baird, VC MG.
Governor-General Quentin Bryce will present his Victoria Cross to his parents, Doug and Kaye Baird at a ceremony next Tuesday.
Members of Parliament greet Kaye Baird the mother of the late Corporal Cameron Baird MG VC and his brother Brendan. Photo: Andrew Meares
"All Australians admire courage. All of us aspire to be strong," continues Shorten.
"We appreciate the bravery and strength is not restricted to those who are decorated and that, in fact, along with Corporal Baird, all of his fellow soldiers are heroes.
But there can be no doubt that Corporal Baird was the sort of man every soldier would aspire to be.
In Parliament today, we salute Corporal Cameron Baird."
Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull, Prime Minister Tony Abbott and Opposition Leader Bill Shorten in discussion after the VC statement. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen
Bill Shorten has now risen to praise Corporal Baird, who also served in East Timor and Iraq and was 32 when he died.
"I did not have the privilege of knowing Corporal Baird but I suspect he was a modest man.
I'm sure today that he would have wanted us to acknowledge his many comrades who may not have received the same level of recognition, not just the 40 Australians who have died in the mountains and the green valleys of Afghanistan, but the hundreds more who have been badly wounded, or have come home bearing psychological scars," he says.
Opposition Leader Bill Shorten speaking about Corporal Baird. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen
One comrade testified of Corporal Baird's courage:
"I have no doubt that by absolutely disregarding his own safety, numerous times, in order to assault a heavily-armed and fortified enemy position, Corporal Baird's courage and resolve proved the tipping point."
The PM notes that he was the 40th soldier killed in Afghanistan.
"And please God, the last."
Corporal Baird was killed on operations in Afghanistan on June 22 last year.
His team came under heavy fire on three occasions from "well-prepared" enemy positions.
By drawing fire on himself, repeatedly, Corporal Baird enabled other members of the team to re-gain the initiative.
As the PM speaks of Corporal Baird's courage, his family and military chiefs are present.
Defence chiefs and the Baird family listen as Prime Minister Tony Abbott makes a statement to the House of Representatives about Corporal Baird. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen
PM Tony Abbott has risen to "solemnly inform the House" that another Victoria Cross has been awarded.
It is the 100th VC awarded in Australia.
This very prestigious military honour is for the late Corporal Cameron Baird, who died in Afghanistan.
And is for "most conspicuous acts of valour."
Prime Minister Tony Abbott delivers his statement to the House of Representatives. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen
We are standing by here for Tony Abbott to make a statement to the House at 11am, followed by Bill Shorten.
In the meantime, in the Senate, Greens man Richard Di Natale is trying to have the Lord's Prayer scrapped from parliament.
And replaced with some silent reflection.
(So in the meantime, please reflect on that.)
Um, Bob, that rose doesn't work as a microphone. It's just a flower.
Crossbench MP Bob Katter does an ABC interview Parliament House in Canberra on Thursday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen
Labor's environment spokesman Mark Butler, Greens leader Christine Milne and Andrew Wilkie were all there to accept a rose.
And Bob Katter was also "rose bombed" by the AYCC kids.
Climate action activists present roses to Bob Katter and Andrew Wilkie. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen
So lets get some romance happening.
I know many people feel weird about associating politicians with romantic gestures, but that hasn't stopped some young climate change activists this morning.
Six members of the Australian Youth Climate Coalition were at the House of Reps doors this morning to greet MPs with roses.
They wanted to take advantage of the fact that it is Valentines Day tomorrow and tell politicians that climate change is just like romance.
i.e. "as much as we might say that it's the thought that counts, what we really want is action".
There has been some speculation that Varvaris was actually asleep, although Labor's Graham Perrett (who was sitting behind the Liberal MP) says he was just "preoccupied".
All the voting and carry on also took its toll on a new Liberal MP.
Nickolas Varvaris unwittingly voted with Labor.
As Jonathan Swan reports, when the bells rang, the Sydney MP simply walked into the chamber, took his regular seat and got on with his own thing.
Little did he know that the parties were switched over for the vote.
Independent Tasmanian Andrew Wilkie reckons they are all a "pack of clowns".
"I think the behaviour in the House of Representatives yesterday was juvenile and reflected badly on both the Coalition government and Labor opposition," he said.
"No wonder the public is sick of political parties."
(Send in the independents?)
Pyne was of course asked about his own behaviour, when in opposition.
According to this report by the Parliament House library last December, "Christopher Pyne leads the list of members most disciplined".
He has been suspended twice and sin binned 43 times.
He is followed by Albo (4 suspensions and 30 sin bins) and former Liberal MP Wilson Tuckey (14 suspensions and 16 sin bins).
Pyne explains that the hung parliament was "very unique" and that the Coalition quite rightly felt that the Labor government was "illegitimate".
The government is, not surprisingly, also in outrage mode.
Leader of the House Christopher Pyne reckons that Labor behaved in a "very bad mannered" and "undergraduate" way.
He told ABC Radio the interruptions during the Address in Reply speeches were "quite frankly, just very, very rude".
Labor - via Manager of Opposition Business Tony Burke - is unapologetic for its part.
He argues that the government has run out of legislation, hence the Address in Reply stuff.
"This is clear evidence the Abbott government has no plan for Australia's future ... This is unbelievable."
What followed was a mish-mash of other attempted censure motions, suspension of standing orders and MPs making what is called "Address in Reply" speeches (where members respond to the Governor-General's speech that opened parliament, which gives them a very wide remit).
And then Labor tried to gag government speakers within this.
After the votes (which Labor lost), the Coalition asked for their speaking times to be reset, to compensate for the minutes lost during voting.
All up, a real noggin hurter.
It all started at the tail end of question time.
Labor tried to suspend standing orders to censure Tony Abbott and Joe Hockey (about jobs) and Christopher Pyne responded with an "I move that the member be no longer heard" - which denied the opposition the chance to speak against the government.
After question time, Labor then planned to talk on what's known as a Matter of Public Importance, again on the subject of jobs.
This was also shut down by the government.
But as MPs have shuffled into parliament this morning, there has been more concern about behaviour in the House.
Yesterday afternoon and evening, things got a little cray cray.
There were gag motions (moves to stop an MP speaking) a plenty following question time.
Which saw some 10 divisions (votes).
First we begin with the flying roo.
Qantas honcho Alan Joyce has been in Canberra.
There was a "closed-door" briefing last night to a group of Coalition MPs where he flagged (with giant flags) that the company is facing "hard decisions".
Joyce will stay in town and meet Joe Hockey and Transport Minister Warren Truss today.
As Matt O'Sullivan and Jonathan Swan report, Qantas is keen for the government to offer it a debt guarantee.
You may remember there was a flurry at the end of last year about whether foreign ownership rules should be relaxed for the airline.
Joyce has been demanding urgent government action for some time.
And his pitch is that Qantas is not like other companies.
In other words: "Quite obviously, Qantas it not Holden".
It's Thursday in the National Capital, where Qantas wants help (not handouts) and jobs, jobs and more jobs continue to dominate discussion.
Meanwhile, one Coalition MP has been caught on the wrong side of the House as another calls for car makers to give the government's money back.
And a debate about what constitutes "bad behaviour" preoccupies the parliament.