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Politics wrap: August 4, 2013

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Prime Minister Kevin Rudd and Opposition Leader Tony Abbott in Canberra on Sunday.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd and Opposition Leader Tony Abbott in Canberra on Sunday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Finally the day came. Let's look back on it before saying goodbye.

  • Prime Minister Kevin Rudd announced the election will be on September 7 (in five weeks' time);
  • Mr Rudd grabbed the underdog status and said he knows hanging on to power will be difficult;
  • Labor will concentrate on the economy, health and education;
  • Coalition leader Tony Abbott stressed the unity and stability of his team;
  • Mr Abbott wants to focus on the economy, border protection and "social solidarity"; and
  • the Greens are promising to inject the compassion back into politics.

So it's over to you people. It's your choice.

I'm looking forward to your company over the next five weeks. Alex Ellinghausen, Andrew Meares and I will be with you for the duration. Let's enjoy it.

See you in the morning.

So before I wrap up let me advise you of some dates (courtesy of the Australian Electoral Commission):

  • August 4, 2013 - election announced
  • August 5, 2013 - writs issued
  • 8pm August 12, 2013 - electoral rolls closed
  • midday August 15, 2013 - close of candidate nominations
  • midday August 16, 2013 - declaration of candidate nominations
  • September 7, 2013 - election day
  • November 13, 2013 - return of writs (latest dates)

 

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott visits the press gallery after his press conference at Parliament House on Sunday.

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott visits the press gallery after his press conference at Parliament House on Sunday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausaen

And I now have available for your reading pleasure the text of Mr Abbott's opening statement.

Let me point you in the direction of some very groovy interactive election related graphics.

This one looks at 30 of the most hotly contested seats in the election campaign.

Here you will find the all important electoral pendulum.

This one looks at the parties' various policy offerings to date.

 

 

 

 

 

Mr Abbott makes his case for the prime ministership.

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Tony Abbott says September 7th will 'finally give the people' a say in who leads the country, and defends the Coalition as a "fair dinkum" alternative government.

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In relation to the debates (about which there will be a debate) the Coalition has proposed three encounters - one debate between the leaders at the National Press Club to be held in Canberra next Sunday, a forum at the Rooty Hill RSL in Sydney with questions from voters and another debate in Brisbane.

Personally, I'm all for debates - the more information, the better.

 

And that's it from Mr Abbott.

(18 minutes and 40 seconds for my time keeping friends.)

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott speaks to the media at Parliament House on Sunday.

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott speaks to the media at Parliament House on Sunday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

But Mr Abbott fudges when asked if he is prepared to debate Mr Rudd tomorrow night.

"There will be a series of debates," he promises but will not answer directly about the proposition for the one on offer tomorrow night.

Mr Abbott says people "want a government that gets things done, not a government that is all talk no action".

Mr Abbott says he will not lead a minority government and "if there is a hung Parliament there will not be a minority government led by Tony Abbott".

 

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott speaks to the media at Parliament House on Sunday.

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott speaks to the media at Parliament House on Sunday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Mr Abbott says the Coalition's policies will be released in good time before election day and will be fully costed.

Mr Abbott is now taking questions.

The first one is about debates.

Mr Abbott says he is open to more than one debate and that the letter sent by campaign director Brian Loughnane to the ALP will be released shortly.

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott speaks to the media at Parliament House in Canberra on Sunday.

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott speaks to the media at Parliament House in Canberra on Sunday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

"Do you really think Australia needs another three years like the six it just had?" Mr Abbott asks voters.

"I am ready. My team is ready. You've watched us for three years. You've seen the stability, you've seen the unity, you've seen the strength. We won't let you down."

 

"I'm determined to build a country where no one ever feels like a stranger," Mr Abbott says.

"One of the things that has been most dismaying about the current government has been its attempts to turn Australian against Australian."

 

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott speaks to the media during a press conference at Parliament House in Canberra on Sunday 4 August 2013.

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott speaks to the media during a press conference at Parliament House in Canberra on Sunday 4 August 2013. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Mr Abbott says he is "happy to place himself at the judgement of the Australian people".

Mr Abbott promises to deliver a stronger economy, cut regulation and to "stop the boats".

"We won't rely simply on another country doing the job for us," Mr Abbott says.

"No one should be more determined to help this country than the Australian prime minister."

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott speaks to the media during a press conference at Parliament House in Canberra on Sunday.

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott speaks to the media during a press conference at Parliament House in Canberra on Sunday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Coalition leader Tony Abbott says he wants to "directly address the people of Australia".

"At last the choice is yours. It's not the choice of the caucus, it's not the choice of the faceless men."

Mr Abbott says it is a choice between "positive plans of the Coalition and more of the same under the Australian Labor Party and Mr Rudd".

Mr Abbott says the election is not about trust but about "who is more fair dinkum".

 

Rock enrol people, rock enrol.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd speaks to the media at Parliament House on Sunday.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd speaks to the media at Parliament House on Sunday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

The full text of Mr Rudd's statement about the election can be read here.

The Fairfax Media online team have produced this nifty two minute guide to the election announcement.

You've just got time to watch it before Coalition leader Tony Abbott's press conference at 5pm.

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Kevin Rudd calls the federal election for September 7th, framing the debate in terms of trust, economic management, and negative Coalition campaigning.

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Greens leader Christine Milne has issued a statement about the election.

"While Kevin Rudd and Tony Abbott continue to fight each other in a race to the bottom on important issues like climate change and asylum seekers, the Greens are standing up for what matters," Senator Milne says.

"The Australian Greens will be calling on people to vote for a caring and sustainable Australia and to vote against cruelty and environmental destruction."

Senator Milne says the Greens will campaign on issues including asylum seekers, the environment and education.

Unlike either Labor or the Coalition the Greens have not asked for donations in their first campaign statement.

Instead, they have urged people to enrol to vote.

"If you are aged 18 or over I encourage you to enrol to vote so you don't miss out on having a say at this year's federal election," Senator Milne says. "Your vote will help determine who runs our country."

 

Let's take a quick moment to wish the US President Barack Obama a happy 51st birthday.

Incidentally September 21 - the other mooted election date - is Mr Rudd's birthday. I rather liked the idea of Mr Rudd having the chutzpah to dare people to vote him out of office on his birthday.

Breaking news reporter Jonathan Swan has confirmed Labor's campaign slogan will be "A new way".

(Which is, obviously, a three word slogan.)

Mr Rudd wraps up his press conference saying it is cold and he "looks forward to seeing you on the campaign trail".

A colleague notes the press conference went for 28 minutes and nine seconds.

(And no, Mr Rudd did not "zip".)

Coalition leader Tony Abbott will hold a press conference in Canberra later this afternoon. It should be soon if he wants to make it onto the evening news.

 

 

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd speaks to the media at Parliament House on Sunday.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd speaks to the media at Parliament House on Sunday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

From Coalition treasury spokesman Joe Hockey:

 

 

Mr Rudd says he has already received an invitation from Sky News to participate in a debate with Coalition leader Tony Abbott tomorrow night.

"I'm in like Flynn," Mr Rudd says before offering to be available for a debate on each Sunday night of the campaign on each of the networks.

"You can run but you can't hide," Mr Rudd says laying down the gauntlet to Mr Abbott.

 

 

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd speaks to the media at Parliament House on Sunday.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd speaks to the media at Parliament House on Sunday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Mr Rudd (who is wearing a tie that can only be described as fuchsia) confirms the local government referendum cannot take place.

It's a pity, he says, but there was little point given the Coalition is divided on the issue making a positive outcome unlikely.

Mr Rudd is asked about the role of former prime minister Julia Gillard twice.

He mentions "Julia" twice in relation to education reform.

 

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd speaks to the media at Parliament House on Sunday.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd speaks to the media at Parliament House on Sunday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

The September 7 poll date means Mr Rudd will no longer attend the G20 meeting in St Petersburg.

Foreign Minister Bob Carr will now attend, he says.

 

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd speaks to the media at Parliament House on Sunday.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd speaks to the media at Parliament House on Sunday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

"You the Australian people know me pretty well - warts and all," Mr Rudd says. You have "seen me at some of my highest highs and lowest lows".

Mr Rudd claims the underdog status saying he knows it will be hard to win. If the election had been held yesterday Labor would have lost.

He asks "each and every one of you" to donate time, money, anything to help Labor win.

(I think this might be the first time a prime minister has used the election announcement to solicit donations.)

"It is now time for the Australian people to decide," Mr Rudd says before taking questions.

 

 

 

 

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd speaks to the media at Parliament House on Sunday.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd speaks to the media at Parliament House on Sunday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Mr Rudd says Labor will campaign on the economy, health and education.

He warns of a "$70 billion slash and burn austerity drive" that a Coalition government would embark on.

Mr Rudd says people face a choice between "positive plans" and the "old negative politics and three word slogans of the past".

("Cuts to the bone" as a catch phrase is back, by the way.)

 

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd speaks to the media at Parliament House on Sunday.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd speaks to the media at Parliament House on Sunday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Mr Rudd says it is better to "level with the Australian people" about the choices made rather than pretend you can "wave a magic wand" and fix problems.

He criticised the Coalition - but not by name - for talking down the economy.

"It's a false claim and should be named as such," Mr Rudd says.

 

 

Mr Rudd says he is a "kid from the bush" whose parents "didn't go much past primary school".

He was able to go to be prime minister.

 

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd speaks to the media at Parliament House on Sunday.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd speaks to the media at Parliament House on Sunday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Mr Rudd says the election will be about "who the Australian people best judge to get the balance right".

The "choppy waters" of the changing economy requires a "clear head and a steady hand", Mr Rudd says.

"Three words slogans don't solve complex problems. They never have and they never will."

 

 

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd confirms the election: "Australia is too positive a nation to retreat into a little ball of negativity".

 

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd speaks to the media at Parliament House in Canberra on Sunday.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd speaks to the media at Parliament House in Canberra on Sunday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Ahem, Tasmanian Labor Senator Lisa Singh:

 

But who will be the most threatened species of all?

 

The image from the afore mentioned tweet:

 

Kevin Rudd tweeted this photo, about 20 minutes before he was due to address the media, with the caption: "Just some final touches to my speech about the choice Australians will make on September 7. KRudd"

Kevin Rudd tweeted this photo, about 20 minutes before he was due to address the media, with the caption: "Just some final touches to my speech about the choice Australians will make on September 7. KRudd"

The stage is set.

 

The scene in the Prime Minister's courtyard at Parliament House.

The scene in the Prime Minister's courtyard at Parliament House. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Meanwhile....

 

The official paperwork for the election - the writs - will be issued tomorrow.

Once that happens there are seven days before the rolls close.

It's your country people - make sure you have your say. As they say, history is made by those who show up.

You can find all the details about how to enrol to vote or change your details on the Australian Electoral Commission's website.

It's all about money. Clearly neither side has enough.

Now an email has gone out to Coalition supporters courtesy of the Liberal National Party President, Bruce McIver.

The Coalition is asking for $34 - $1 for each day of the campaign.

"Without your support we will be outspent by Labor's cashed up union movement," Mr McIver writes.

"The election is the clearest choice in a generation - it's a choice between a truly united Coalition with our Real Solutions Plan or Labor and its chaos, division, dysfunction. Only the Coalition has a plan to build a strong, prosperous economy and a safe, secure Australia. The Coalition offers real change and will deliver a genuinely united government and a better future for all Australians."

"Labor hasn't changed at all over the last six years - it's still the same Kevin Rudd and same old Labor."

Back to Mr Rudd's email (see 3.29 pm post).

"Australians how face a choice. And the choice couldn't be starker," Mr Rudd writes.

"I have a positive vision about the country we can be. In this election I'll be talking with Australians across the country about better schools for our kids, investing so we can create good jobs and about how the NBN can keep our economy strong."

"Tony Abbott has a different approach. He'll bang on with the same negativity that we're all sick of. He's only got three word slogans because he doesn't have the ticker to debate his real agenda. Right now the only thing standing between Australia and an Abbott-led government is you, me and as many Australians as we can rally to fight for the kind of nation we call want to live in."

Mr Rudd then asks supporters to donate $5 to "get us off to a strong start".

"We've got one hell of a fight on our hands," the email concludes. "Abbott and a few millionaires will out sepnd us. But is we join together we can even the playing field."

Mr Rudd's office has confirmed a press conference in the Prime Minister's courtyard at Parliament House.

Media are to assemble by 4pm (which is not the same thing as the press conference starting at 4pm.)

Ladies and gentlemen - the twitter election:

 

Sydney Liberal MP Alex Hawke gets the gold star for first guy from his side to get out an election related tweet:

 

An email to Labor supporters has just arrived in inboxes around the country.

"It's on", the email begins.

"A few moments ago I saw the Governor-General and asked that she dissolve this parliament and call the federal election for September 7."

 

While we wait for news of Mr Rudd's press conference here are a couple of articles you might find useful.

The Sydney Morning Herald's political editor, Peter Hartcher, wrote this analysis about what the campaign will look like.

Chief political correspondent Mark Kenny broke the news yesterday of the election date.

Political editor of The Sun Herald and The Sunday Age, Chris Johnson, wrote this piece in this morning's newspapers looking at the men who will direct the campaigns for both major parties - George Wright (Labor) and Brian Loughnane (Coalition).

 

Mr Rudd has finished meeting with the Governor General.

He is now on his way back to Parliament House to make the official announcement.

 

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd departs Government House on Sunday.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd departs Government House on Sunday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Mr Rudd will now be asking Ms Bryce to dissolve Parliament ahead of an election.

Mr Rudd will then go back to Parliament House and hold a press conference to make the official announcement.

The safe money is on September 7 which gives us a five week campaign. It means the local government referendum will not take place. The earliest date it could have been held was September 14 - the date chosen by former prime minister Julia Gillard.

Mr Rudd has just arrived at Government House where he was greeted by the Official Secretary to the Governor General, Stephen Brady.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd arrives at Government House in Canberra on Sunday.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd arrives at Government House in Canberra on Sunday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

The Prime Minister's car - C1 - popped into the Lodge and is now heading down Dunrossil Drive, the road leading to Government House.

(So much of today's coverage bears a striking similarity to royal wedding coverage.)

 

You can follow the story in greater detail here with coverage anchored by breaking news reporter Judith Ireland and the Fairfax Media team.

The media is waiting for Prime Minister Kevin Rudd to arrive at the Yarralumla residence of the Governor General, Quentin Bryce.

A member of Mr Rudd's security scene can be seen in the grounds making sure everything is okay.

An officer from Prime Minister Kevin Rudd's security team arrives  at Government House in Canberra on Sunday.

An officer from Prime Minister Kevin Rudd's security team arrives at Government House in Canberra on Sunday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

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  • People who think that their democratic rights will be exercised should think again. The leaders are not chosen by us. Their visions are not collected from us. international issues cannot be controlled by us. Voting has become an expense for the country.

    Commenter
    t
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    August 04, 2013, 6:30PM
  • Remember, a vote for Abbott is also a vote for his cronies. Pyne, Mirabella, Bishop, Brandis, Morrison. The Libs are scary stuff! They will bring us back to the dark ages with their 3 to 5 word slogans!

    Commenter
    Zeldatea
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 6:24PM
    • Gen Y needs to get some perspective.

      Commenter
      Dark Legion
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      August 04, 2013, 6:41PM
  • If Abbott ever gets anywhere near the Lodge we are doomed.

    Commenter
    RTP.
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    sawtell
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 6:06PM
    • Is this like when matter meets antimatter? Kaboom!

      Commenter
      Dark Legion
      Location
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      August 04, 2013, 6:31PM
    • If Rudd stays anywhere near The Lodge we are doomed.

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      Tim of Altona
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      August 04, 2013, 6:45PM
  • TIME FOR CHANGE IS HERE.
    Thank God we now have only a few more days to throw out Rudd and Labor. The shambles they will leave behind will only be correctly revealed by the incoming Libs, and we can expect many new horrors.
    Wake up Labor supporters. Vote LNP if you want A NEW START.

    Commenter
    HS
    Location
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    August 04, 2013, 6:03PM
  • Kevin 13? Has a nice ring to it .Does not rhyme but who cares! Finally we have our chance to cast our vote for a change of Goverment!

    Commenter
    Magoo
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 5:56PM
  • Just watched Abbott in his first election speech. I had to mue the sound! I could not stand the spin on the "almost truths" and the obvious misrepresentation. He has moved beyond slogans of three words. He now has slogans of up to 5 words. And he STILL has not said how he intends to stop the boats!

    However I did hear the word ".contestable".

    Lest me tell you what that word means in Qld. It means that public servants at the lower end of the seniority and pay scales will lose $10,000 a year plus assorted reductions in benefits like superannuation whereas staff in the Senior Executive Service get large increases.

    Families at the low ends of pay scales have a lot of difficulty making ends meet, without losing $10,000 a year while you continue to do the same job!

    In Qld the LNP government has abolished the TARE Teacher's Award. Also gone are overtime and penalty rates. Now work hours are 6am to 10pm, 6 days a Week.

    Teachers are now " trainers" on a low hourly rate.

    This means you can give 2 hour lectures to 90 Diploma students and receive a pittance. You can teach a 3 hr computer class of 30 students again for a pittance.

    Once Qld TAFE teachers were considered equivalent to high school teachers and received similar pay. No more.

    I have every intention of taking my qualifications (BSc, PhD, Dip Teach, Dip Training & Assessment Systems) and extensive industry experience and apply for a Science and Maths High School Teaching position.

    So be careful who you vote for. Have a careful look at Queensland before you do. The QLP have slashed services, wages and conditions and takes no notice of Qlders when they protest.

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    TiredOfSpin
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    August 04, 2013, 5:49PM
  • Rudd did not manage Australia through the GFC.
    By his own admission pre May Budget 2008, he stated that it was a 'responsible Budget. By July/August he stated a different approach was needed and went on a spending spree. School halls, pink batts, computers for all students, $900 cheques for prisoners and individuals living overseas.
    The NBN originally to cost about $37 billion now approaching $60 billion is now in the Budget.
    He simply does not have any idea on how to manage the economy.

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    Michele
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    August 04, 2013, 5:45PM
    • But Australia now and all through the Rudd -Gillard period received a AAA Stable credit rating while most countries were downgraded.

      Australia did not go inti recession or depression as most countries.

      It is proven now that countries who stimulated the economy in response to a threatened recession due to the GFC, as Rudd did, rather than put austerity measures in place have avoided recession. Those that put austerity measures now have collapsing economies.

      The benefits of stimulation has now been recognised and Scandinavian countries are now putting stimulation of the economy in place.

      So Rudd, Gillard and Swan did know how to manage an economy and were recognised by the IMF and other international agencies for their success.

      Of course, a lot of credit should go to the senior public servants in Treasury on whose advice the PM and Treasurer acted.

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      TiredOfSpin
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      August 04, 2013, 6:14PM
    • I cannot parse your argument. HOW does anything you wrote contradict that KRudd managed Australia into avoiding the GFC? For that matter, as the GFC was developing, weren't the Libs talking about cutting back spending to save money? What would that have done? Now we are facing something similar with the economy... so why not choose a guy with a proven recod of solving these problems? In a similar pattern your costs for the NBN are are somewhat exaggerated.

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      Rob_Hob
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      Australia
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 6:25PM
    • @ tiered of spin
      if Rudd is so great then why was he sacked by his own party - and if Gillard did everything right- why she had to go. If Rudds old policies were sooo good - why now talk about new ways -- and why did 30% of his Minister reign rather than work with him.
      I think the only one spinning here is you.

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      Bruno
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      August 04, 2013, 6:34PM
  • Warren Truss - Rudd is riding a wave of amnesia. We'll have full recall come Sept 7

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    john
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 5:42PM
  • I'd rather wait and real real a real NBN..than have the LNP fraudband that will cost $100 billion by the time it's finished... (extra power for the nodes) plus over $1 billion a year to maintain the copper network and then in the future we'll have to build it to the home anyway at extra cost. The LNP fraudband will take two years less and cost on LNP figures 1/3 less but will only be a third as good. Why bother?

    While you're there tell us ONE thing that the LNP have ever done for this country? what reform (only ever the GST and of course the Alice Springs to Darwin railway)? What nation building project? Abbott is even against railways.. Even Vietnam is building a VFT from north to south...

    Commenter
    n720ute
    Location
    North Coast NSW
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 5:37PM
    • Clearly you have no idea. The NBN is a $100bn lie. It won't even get built.

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      Gerard
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:43PM
    • Well it is going in in Toowoomba and surrounding areas. I have seen it with my own eyes!!

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      TiredOfSpin
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      August 04, 2013, 6:00PM
    • So it's happening in Woop Woop, hurray. That will save Australia.

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      Dark Legion
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      August 04, 2013, 6:30PM
  • By suddenly announcing the election (that we all must have) today, it seems that PM Rudd was spooked into having to go now. After all, to have further delayed, the Government risked having to release the final budget outcomes for F13 (required, by mid-September). But now, PM Rudd will miss both the G20 in Russia and the rotating presidency of the Security Council in September.

    Even so, on economic matters, the Prime Minister still actively avoids discussing outcomes, preferring instead to deflect, defy, or intimidate. That’s also why the REVISED BUDGET NUMBERS STILL NOT ADD UP?

    In the May Budget, the Government stated:
    • F13 revenue (REV) of $350.4B, expenditure (EXP) of $367.3B and deficit (DEF) of $19.377B. Back then, F13 still had 8 weeks to go.

    • For F14, the REV was forecast at $376B, EXP at $391B, and a net DEF of $18B.

    • For the outlying years (that is the 3 years through F15 – F17), REV was forecast at $1.284T, EXP at $1.278T, and the cumulative 3-year DEF at $3.5B (with F16 and F17 both surplus years).

    Now, last Friday’s barely 10-week there “mini-budget” statement has re-cast all this and yet the F13 outcomes remain unchanged from May.

    Based on Friday’s “mini-budget” the following outcomes are apparent:
    • F14, REV revised to $369B (down $7B), EXP $397B (up $6B), and DEF of $30.1B (up $12.1B).
    • THE OUTLYING YEARS, REV revised to $1.264T (down $18B), EXP revised up to $1.279T (up $1B), and DEF of $24.7B (a net deterioration of $21.2B).

    Yet, the figures for F13 still remain UNCHANGED:

    REV = $350.4B, EXP = $367.3B, and DEF = $19.377B.

    This can’t be right. If everything else has deteriorated, then so too must have F13. So, Mr Rudd, what were the “real” F13 final outcomes?

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    Grant
    Location
    Mitcham
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 5:34PM
    • Grant
      The figures come from Treasury - not Rudd.
      That is why Hockey refuses to use Treasury numbers. Because if he did, he would have to tell the truth about his promises.

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      Steve
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      August 04, 2013, 5:46PM
    • Steve,
      So explain then why the unchanged figures for F13, and yet the dramatically changed figures for F14through F17? It's simply not possible.

      Equally, were not the May Budget figures from Treasury? Yet, within <3 months, they've been ditched (all, except for the F13 outcomes, that is).

      And were not the F12 budget figures, from Treasury? And the F11 budget figures?

      Hockey's concern regarding Treasury is that they've become politicised over the RGR cycle. On that, it's hard to disagree, for if that's not the case, then certainly, Treasury's forecasting competency has failed dismally.

      So, which is it, a politicised Treasury, or an incompetent Treasury?

      Either way, Treasury has a lot to have to answer for in going forward.

      Just yesterday, for example, Treasury had to admit that they had not modelled the recent FBT decision impact. Just like they failed to model for the MRRT and a myriad of other plans, programs and activities.

      Most private economists discredited the May 2013 budget within days, but it took Treasury almost 3 months in which to discredit its own figures. So, Steve, if its the truth that we are talking about, then perhaps we should start first with Treasury having to tell the "real" truth, and not just the politically expedient truth. That's what Joe Hockey dislikes - a Treasury for which truth and accuracy in forecasting is merely a political missive, equally expedient as it is expendable. After all, for all their dismal forecasting, results, and abrupt changes in direction, not one Treasury official has been held accountable. Anywhere else, they would have been held accountable. But, within the confines of Labor's Canberra, they appear certainly a protected, albeit soon to be extinct, species.

      Commenter
      Grant
      Location
      Mitcham
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 6:24PM
  • Here we go again:

    “Thanks to Labor we avoided the GFC.”

    1: Unlike many European countries and the US, we had no housing bubble inflated by sub-prime dealings.

    2: Our banking sector was structured by superior forms of regulation and authority, our four major banks still maintain AAA rating hence, there was no danger of them defaulting.

    3: Our strong fiscal position of surplus federally and strong banking sector allowed Labor to run a deficit, this is the main difference that separates Australia’s economy from those abroad.

    4: 2009 trade statistics reveal exports surged from 2.4% of GDP to 5.4% due to our private mining sector.

    5: In 2007-08 the construction industry's share of GDP was 7%.

    6: Pink fluff and halls for choir practice were of such insignificance, less than a fraction of the above 7%, their only significance: expansion of Labor spin.

    There was no GFC in Australia, nevertheless Labor panicked and wasted billions needlessly in particular on the second stimulus package comprising

    $14.7 billion for schools

    $6.6 billion for 20,000 new homes

    $3.9 billion to insulate 2.7 million homes

    $890 million for road repairs and infrastructure

    $2.7 billion in small business tax breaks

    $12.7 billion for cash bonuses: $950 for every Australian taxpayer who earned less than $80,000, to be paid out in March and April 2009.

    The result current government debt (federal, state, and local) is 43% of GDP.

    And yes our stock market fell as did every other stock market and duly recovered.

    Commenter
    Pen of hrba
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 5:28PM
    • "our four major banks still maintain AAA "

      Nope. They have been downgraded twice because of huge exposure to overseas funding and the property bubble.

      http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/moodys-downgrades-australias-big-four-banks-20110518-1esv4.html

      Commenter
      Allan
      Location
      Prahran
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:45PM
    • Pen
      Your mistake is in the first line.
      We did have a housing bubble. The good management by Swan ensured it was slowly deflated over 5 years instead of bursti like it did in the US and Europe.
      Please deal with facts and not your fiction.

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:47PM
    • And none of that investment did anything? Are you kidding? I know our local school finally got rid of the demountables that have been a blight on our school system for years (and employed apprentices to build the new classrooms) and the 1 million homes now insulated were of no consequence..(we're now using 14% less power).. and your govt debt figure is the dodgiest I've ever seen...(oh sorry Tony I know you're prone to exaggeration but even the voters will find this one out) better correct it before it's too late... next you'll be saying that Gonski won't help... Oh sorry you're supporting that now... But turning back the boats will work right? Oh you don't even believe that yourself now... Anything you believe in or won't spin? Anything original?

      Commenter
      n720ute
      Location
      North Coast NSW
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:54PM
  • Abbott is up to his old tricks.
    Dodging debates and dodging journalist questions.
    When will anyone hold him to account?

    Commenter
    Steve
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 5:27PM
    • Probably when he becomes PM, like every other politician...unless, of course, he's a Labor PM; then the media will fawn over him

      Commenter
      I hate pies
      Location
      Qld
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:39PM
    • You must have been watching a different Tonty Abbott speech - I don't recall seeing him dodge a question or a debate. There will be plenty of scheduled debates - why should Abbott agree to have one tomorrow just because Rudd said he wants one.You are getting youself sucked in by con artist Kevin

      Commenter
      Tim of Altona
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:42PM
    • You try facing up to the fiscal demolition of the economy and try answering questions of how to fix it with a smile on your face. Especially as you watched it unfold and was castigated for warning the perpetrators.

      Commenter
      Pen of hrba
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:49PM
    • WOW if you call the vitriol coming out of the Murdoch press "fawning" I'd hate to see hatred.

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 6:07PM
    • Steve, Abbott appeared live on Channel 7 news at 6pm. PM Rudd was also asked to appear but refused to do so. So, who's dodging what? Kevin I've gotta zip" Rudd, or Tony Abbott"?

      Commenter
      Grant
      Location
      Mitcham
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 6:26PM
    • Steve, if you are waiting for the debate to help Labor you are going to be sorry. I will concede that Rudd is a better talker than Abbott, but then again so is every conman. When a conman is backed into corner they always come up with more outlandish schemes on the run.
      The Rudd government's latest budget figures shows everybody how incompetent they are.
      Minister Wong was so busy looking for a Lib black hole she missed her own.
      Steve just do the numbers, Labor are going to lose seats in NSW, VIC and TAS and may hold steady in QLD, but they cannot win the election. My local member Bradbury cannot possible hold his seat, just go out and ask the local.

      Commenter
      thepres
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 6:28PM
    • Steve the ALP troll, is your last name Smith by any chance?

      Commenter
      Hornberger
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 6:28PM
  • Sotty lefties' the bookies don't give Krudd much hope , sportingbet and TAB both have Coalition at $1.30 and labor at $3.50, lucky I put $1000 on libs at $1.40 3 weeks ago, the highest libs got to was $1.42..bookies generally get it right,, If some of you lefties are so certain of a labot win why not put your life's savings on labor at $3.50 although it will only prove the old saying ''a fool and his money are soon parted ,

    Commenter
    napier48
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 5:24PM
    • In your dreams you had a gorilla on Libs! Two horse race what happens if Ashbygate blows wide open. Abbott has to debate remember.

      Commenter
      Empho
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:33PM
    • The smart money would have been with Labor, 4 weeks ago $13.00 and that would have made a big win with your $1,000 investment. Your $1.40 on the liberals is a loss which ever way you look at it ...wink

      Commenter
      Ruckershill Lower
      Location
      northcote
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:34PM
    • And, you would have to be crazy to believe the figures provided in the recent "economic update". Finance Minister Wong has been promising to bring the budget back to surplus for the past four years. Hockey is right. You won't know just how bad finances are untill Labor is removed. Just like what happened in Queensland when Bligh was flushed from office. The socialists have long since finished spending everyone else's money. There's none left now and we are deep in the red.

      Commenter
      Facts are
      Location
      Brisbane
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:21PM
  • Abbott just said "you gotta ask yourself" and I agree!

    You "gotta ask yourself" just when are we going to get a decent government? Which bunch of clowns do you vote for? The Labor clowns or the LNP clowns?

    Sorry Greens, you guys haven't reached clown status yet.

    Commenter
    Sharron
    Location
    Canberra
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 5:14PM
  • Abbott vision for the future is NBN copper or "stop the bytes" and adopting Labor's education policy (backflip anyone?) and Labor's asylum seeker policy.

    Really Abbott has nothing to offer other than austerity and recession. He won't deal with China because it's not a democracy, he will fight with Indonesia and PNG.. but hey he'll give us a three word slogan.

    Commenter
    n720ute
    Location
    North Coast NSW
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 5:13PM
    • Do you have any idea how long the NBN is going to take? It was announced in 2007. It's already 6 years in and is barely started. They'll tell you they begun in 2010. What happened before then? How come most areas have a big red X next to them until 2017, which means construction won't even begin then? The time to connection has blown out to 2 years from construction. It's going to be well after 2020 before most people even see this thing. We'll have another election or 3 before then.

      Commenter
      laborsucks.com
      Location
      Truth
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:19PM
    • The NBN is on a timeline to be built by 2017. It has always been the same.
      The bigger question is why for 10 years, Howard did NOTHING about broadband?
      Was it because Murdoch didn't want him to?

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:29PM
    • I'd rather wait and real real a real NBN..than have the LNP fraudband that will cost $100 billion by the time it's finished... (extra power for the nodes) plus over $1 billion a year to maintain the copper network and then in the future we'll have to build it to the home anyway at extra cost. The LNP fraudband will take two years less and cost on LNP figures 1/3 less but will only be a third as good. Why bother?

      While you're there tell us ONE thing that the LNP have ever done for this country? what reform (only ever the GST and of course the Alice Springs to Darwin railway)? What nation building project? Abbott is even against railways.. Even Vietnam is building a VFT from north to south...

      Commenter
      n720ute
      Location
      North Coast NSW
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:32PM
    • Steve. Built by 2017? Most places won't have even started construction on that date. You are delusional pal. The evidence is actually that it could take a full 20 years beyond expectations to be complete. It's an absolute rort. Anyone that thinks it's $43billion is swallowing all the lies. It's going to be double or even triple that figure and take almost twice as long as projected. Wow. Tops idea that one. NBN at all costs? No I didn't vote for that. Labor has gotta go!

      Commenter
      shiyoganai
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:40PM
    • shiyoganai
      Where is your evidence? the Senate Estimates (led by LNP) accepted the 2017 date.
      But Abbott has some report by an unknown "expert" that he won't show anyone.
      Most people in the industry know that now the planning phase is complete, the rollout will accelerate.
      Like any construction job, you have to do the planning and build the foundation before you start pouring the concrete.

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 6:10PM
    • Steve, your problem with the NBN is that you keep on believing that something might happen. Already NBN Co have revised their Business Plans, their rollouts, their forecasts and everything else a number of times over. Sooner or later however they should get something right.

      Now, with 207,000 premises passed at 30 June, and 70,000 active services, of which 33,000 of them are fibre active, it really does show that billions have been spent on not very much being achieved to date.

      Still, the non-fibre active services outstrip the fibre active services. And yet, this is something NBN Co should be proud of? I think not.

      The first trials in Tasmania were started over 3 years ago and since then, fibre active connections, despite the demanded /politically required spike back in March 2013 (to 20%) have since dropped back to 16% and falling away.

      This is a very expensive service which in the true tradition of Stalinism will eventually dictate that no Australian will be permitted to connect to the internet unless or until they have connected in through the NBN. Talk about choice.

      After all, NBN Co is struggling to maintain its connections let alone in getting any new connections done out there.

      Looked at another way, every year, Australia builds 150,000+ new houses /apartments. In the 3+ years since the Tasmanian trial first started, that has meant >475,000 new properties have been built out. Yet as against all those billions, NN Co has only passed 207,000 since 2010, and then actively connected only 33,000 of them.

      That's not a good result by any account whatsoever.

      Commenter
      Grant
      Location
      Mitcham
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 6:54PM
  • Have to laugh at labor talking about the libs black hole.All of labor's projections for the past 5 years have been wrong. Only 6 months ago they were still talking about a surplus. What a bunch of jokers.

    Commenter
    Dom
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 5:13PM
  • Abbott may just get to the Lodge if he stops saying "Fair Dinkum". Its got warts on it...

    Commenter
    Gregonmac
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 5:11PM
  • "A new way"? Are they serious? They've had 7 years to do their thing and apparently they are looking for a new way, presumably a shift in direction. How about "Time's up"

    Commenter
    brenton
    Location
    sydney
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 5:10PM
  • A note to all Australians: who do you trust?
    Tony Abbott the man that described the death of ADF Lance Corporal MacKinney in Afghanistan as SHIT HAPPENS ? I think not!
    We need leadership, vision and policies for all Australians not Tony's misguided view to public servants. Shame Tony shame.
    I'm sure the liberal party could do better than electing Tony after all he won by one vote i.e. his own !!

    Commenter
    Ruckershill Lower
    Location
    northcote
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 5:07PM
  • I just ready the witty and informed opinions by people in the comment section and changed my mind about who I am going to vote for. Terrible terrible state of affairs. Good luck to Australia. Both of our options are sub par. We don't deserve democracy. We (myself included) aren't smart enough to vote. The world is too complicated and sophisticated at influencing us. Ideology is dead.

    Commenter
    Gman
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 5:04PM
  • What's the bet that the people smugglers will stop the boats during the campaign to help Rudd and Labor?

    Commenter
    Miss Peg
    Location
    QLD
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:58PM
    • ... can Abbott stop the Budgie Smugglers ?

      Commenter
      Gregonmac
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:13PM
  • I had to have a bit of a laugh to myself when Kevin mentioned the almighty NBN as a fabulous advantage more than once in his press conference. If he truly believes that the NBN is an application of good government policy, then he truly is deluded.

    A few facts:

    1. It was conceived on the back of an envelope.
    2. It was never fully costed.
    3. It is ridiculously late, with previous few actual customers.
    4. It is expensive compared to existing Broadband options.
    5. At the moment, the cost is NOT included in the deficit because it is being treated as a potential money maker for the government. When the Coalition is elected, we will no doubt find out the true cost and at that point it will become a Government liability and be forced to be accounted for in the Deficit. This is the ALP's $90 billion black hole!

    Commenter
    Alternate View
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:56PM
    • It's also been capped by a lot of ISPs at 50Mbps, and tests have shown large discrepancies in speed from low 30s to mid 40s. So much for the NBN. Come 2020 we'll still be waiting for it. Everywhere.

      Commenter
      laborsucks.com
      Location
      Truth
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:05PM
    • Alternate
      Have a good look at the NBN before you comment. Then you might have some credibility.
      There is no broadband in Australia that is comparable to anywhere in the world because Howard changed Australia's definition of broadband so it would look like he was doing something.
      Murdoch doesn't want broadband because it is a threat to Foxtel.

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:11PM
    • Chattanooga is America's first Broadband City with internet speeds of one gigabit per second - 100 times faster than pretty much anywhere else in the country. Typically of US efficiency it was not government built but a joint venture between the city council and the local power company. Most other cities in the US are set to copy this model having witnessed businesses moving to Chattanooga creating thousands of new jobs and hundreds of millions of dollars in investment.

      I am confident that the US will have broadband to 12 million homes years before we do.

      Commenter
      Pen of hrba
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:13PM
    • Steve,

      Apart from the NBN, all of Australia's major improvements to Internet speeds happened on Howard's watch. 56k, Cable, ADSL and ADSL2 all came on board between 1996 and 2007. The difference is that the rollout of all these was more reliable because it was done by private enterprise and not government fatcats.

      Who do you think you are kidding?

      Commenter
      Watchdog
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:27PM
    • labor
      So do you blame the highway because the taxi driver won't go over 40?
      Find a new ISP.

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:31PM
    • Pen
      Why do you think the US rolling out broadband to less than 10% of its people is a success but Australia rolling out broadband to 100% of its people is a failure?

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:36PM
    • Watchdog
      And we still have large parts of Australia who can do nothing better than 56k modems because Howard presided over an industry where ISPs had to try and compete with Telstra while trying to get Telstra to supply them with infrastructure.
      Howard didn't invent DSL. But he did effectively stop its roll out in Australia.

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:52PM
  • Ok so can we all please use our brains and vote for a LNP government and chuck labor and greens into the rubbish bin of history. Good voters of Griffith please vote Kevin out of his seat so we never have to see his face again.

    Commenter
    Enough
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:55PM
    • +100 :)

      Commenter
      shiyoganai
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:06PM
    • Hear, Hear - as someone else said "It's time to Dump the Dudd"

      Commenter
      Rosie
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:11PM
    • enough
      If we are going to use our brains we will vote Labor.
      If we want Murdoch to do our thinking for us we will vote LNP.

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:12PM
    • Agreed, Just going out to the shed to polish up the proverbial "baseball bat"

      Commenter
      Ted
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:13PM
  • I just bumped into Nicola Roxon's favourite website, laborsucks.com. It is a shame she's leaving the sinking Labor ship really. Then again, the only people who want to work for Kevin now are those that only had a choice of doing that or walking the plank. He's not the ideal boss.

    Commenter
    Watchdog
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:54PM
  • Obama is 52 today (born 1961)

    Clearly you got your info off Google, which is still in saturday mode in the US

    Commenter
    richard
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:54PM
  • I think The Australian is not accepting comments today. All the conservatives are present in this forum.

    Commenter
    SK
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:53PM
  • Thank god for
    Terrific Tony !!

    Commenter
    Proud Australian
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:53PM
  • Tony does not appear to be confident any more. On the flip side Rudd is definitely composed.

    Commenter
    SK
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:51PM
  • The country is about to go into recession , unemployment tipped to go to 6.5%, Budget blowout from $18 B to $30 Billion, a history of billions wasted on pink batts and renovating school dunnies, a failed Carbon tax, and yet Rudd will still get in. Why? because Labour voters actually believe this man is the Messiah..Dont expect a $1000 handout this time, because there is no money for one.

    Commenter
    Gannfan
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:50PM
    • Gannfan
      Murdoch has been telling us that for 6 years and the Labor government has managed to stave off a recession for all that time.
      But he keeps hoping doesn't he.
      And all the lemmings listen to him.

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:14PM
    • Yes, if Kev wins, it'll be the recession we had to have!

      Commenter
      me
      Location
      there
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:15PM
    • Agreed that inflation and unemployment are about to rise significantly. Most Australians don't realise just how expensive it is to live here and more particularly, to do business here. If as I expect, Labor do get in, I doubt they'll get in in 2016 as the debt level will be so overwhelming

      Commenter
      Ian
      Location
      Fremantle
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:16PM
    • Hang the Morgan poll of June 2013 has an estimated 1.2 million Australians (9.7% of the workforce) unemployed. This is up 35,000 (0.2%) from May. The Australian workforce* was 12,453,000 (up 125,000) comprising 7,540,000 full-time workers (down 57,000), 3,708,000 part-time workers (up 145,000) and 1,205,000 looking for work (up 37,000) according to the Roy Morgan monthly employment estimates. These figures exclude people who have dropped out of the workforce and given up looking.

      Labor's stats need to be taken with a pinch of salt.

      Commenter
      Pen of hrba
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:17PM
  • The salient feature of this election campaign will be the massive debt created by this government who inherited a massive surplus only to blow it on unproductive measures. Rudd cannot be trusted period with a trillion dollar economy. This guy is policy on the run and an unmitigated disaster. Is it any wonder Gillard and co walked and simply refused to work with him; a damning indictment on this egotistical galah.Whilst Abbott is not particularly great, he at least has integrity. Surely a prerequisite for PM..

    Commenter
    hg
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:50PM
    • hg
      The salient feature of this election is a government that inherited a structural deficit and has reduced it significantly.
      If Howard had not given it all away, we would have a balanced budget.

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:56PM
  • The slogan - A new way (to shaft the country)

    Commenter
    Mawashi
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:50PM
  • Condescending put-down of the journalists, just because they ask pointed questions; talking down to the camera; arrogance beyond belief. This appalling man must go - for ever.

    Commenter
    John
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:50PM
  • Wake-up Australia. If the economic update last week didn't make you realise how bad this government is then heaven help us...we can't survive another 3 years under this government led by this duplicitous man.

    Commenter
    Adam
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:50PM
    • And, you would have to be crazy to believe the figures provided in the recent "economic update". Finance Minister Wong has been promising to bring the budget back to surplus for the past four years. Hockey is right. You won't know just how bad finances are untill Labor is removed. Just like what happened in Queensland when Bligh was flushed from office. The socialists have long since finished spending everyone else's money. There's none left now and we are deep in the red.

      Commenter
      Facts are
      Location
      Brisbane
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:21PM
  • "A new way" - to where ?

    Burgeoning debt, porous borders, rising cost of living maybe.

    Labor has found every old way to deliver these, i suppose a new way would at least be novel.

    Commenter
    Hacka
    Location
    Canberra
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:49PM
  • The policies of the labor government have simply not worked.

    They should never have claimed they steered Australia through the GFC. They had a head start through previous liberal policy which created an adequate buffer to stimulate the economy.

    Rudd has done the sensible thing and called it - he knew he did not have the mandate for the Australian people.

    Commenter
    View
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:49PM
  • 'A new way' - gee that must have taken Rudd's two family campaign office advisors a long time to devise. You've got to give it to those Qld'ers.

    Commenter
    enough is enough
    Location
    Labor party La La Land
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:49PM
  • Finally we may get to hear some LNP policies .... Tony we are waiting.

    Commenter
    Patrick.
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:47PM
  • I think I want to hibernate until polling day if we have to put up with another 28 minutes of Mr Rudd!

    Commenter
    cat
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:47PM
  • I see the Obama-esque twitter feeds have already begun from Rudd.

    "Join my team" he implores

    Are those crickets I hear chirping?

    Commenter
    Tim of Altona
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:44PM
  • Hopefully The australian voters are not dumb to vote that incompetent untrustworthy psychopath back to power after ruining the australian economy and immigration policy costing the tax payers over $12 billion.

    Commenter
    dindoul
    Location
    Cairns
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:43PM
    • dindoul
      Hopefully you are right and Abbott will be consigned to history.

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:16PM
    • Ruining the economy? If the first ever triple A credit rating in Australia's history or 22 years of consecutive growth - started by Labor, if saving us from the GFC, if a sensible broadband policy and a real education system is ruining the economy well I want him back....

      Commenter
      n720ute
      Location
      North Coast NSW
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:18PM
  • Finally we get the chance to
    DUMP this Dudd

    Commenter
    Proud Australian
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:40PM
    • What a thoughtful and intelligent answer. It must have taken an unbelievable amount of effort to summon up that comment. You are the shining example of the quote by John Stuart Mill, “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives."

      Commenter
      Jason
      Location
      Gold Coast
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:35PM
  • This is an opportunity to vote this farce of a government out. There has never been a more pathetic time in Australian Politics.

    Commenter
    Watchdog
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:39PM
  • Kevin is telling us, with a whole lot of those who comment in this forum, that the deficit is not a problem. i challenge them to give us a hard real figure that will be deemed a problem.

    Commenter
    Mal
    Location
    Cranbourne
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:39PM
  • Heaven help us - a whole month of that cheesy grin

    Commenter
    itsingers
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:38PM
  • Kevin seems to think we all have collective memory loss...when he came in we had no debt, now we have nearly $ 280 billion...don't believe the "net debt" argument...in calculating this "net" figure the ALP includes the Future Fund's $100 billion of assets but excludes the associated "pension liabilities"...its the same kind of math that fails them every time they try on the "we forecast a surplus" mirage...at least the Coalition makes an effort to state caution with our money, whereas the ALP, and Kevin just continue to piss it all up against the wall...inter-generational debt here we come...Kevin will set one record, the debt burden passed onto our kids...

    Commenter
    chris
    Location
    sydney
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:38PM
    • Glad someone else is concerned about the debt levels future generations will have to pay back. Wonder what tax Rudd will introduce this week?

      Commenter
      Sarah of Carnegie
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:50PM
    • Yet if you are starting with zero debt you are using the net debt figure, not the gross figure - which was not zero, and never reached zero under Howard. Words like "gross" and "net" actually mean things and being huffy about your own ignorance is unbecoming.

      Commenter
      andye
      Location
      sydney
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:54PM
    • Andye,

      There was not only no gross or net debt under Howard but there was also $70bn in national savings via the Future Fund. i don't know where your figures come from but if you can go for eleven straight budgets with no deficits then there simply cannot be any gross or net debt, particularly as the Conservatives managed to pay off the Beazley Bankcard during that time.

      Commenter
      Watchdog
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:10PM
    • watchdog
      Don't make us laugh about the "Future Fund".
      It was a fund to pay for the liabilities that Howard neglected.
      It is nothing to do with our future. It is about the liabilities of the past.

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:34PM
  • It's Time!

    Commenter
    Badger
    Location
    Canberra
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:37PM
  • Finally we can DUMP the DUD !!!

    Commenter
    Proud Australian
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:36PM
  • The Australian Labor Party and the Liberal National Party coalition have miserably failed Australia....both of them. I cannot remember a time when the major parties have disgusted me so much.......with their parliamentary antics, broken promises, changing policies, gutter-level behaviour, inarticulate pronouncements, contempt for the voters and so on and on.
    The only saving grace that I am left with any respect for, are the independents, all of them, who have behaved with honour and dignity.
    I will be seeking more independents to vote for in this next federal election.

    Commenter
    Now we can tell them......
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:35PM
  • I'd forgotten just how cocky and arrogant Mr Rudd was, until today when answering questions put by the Journos. One by one he just assassinated the character of each of them. Not worthy of a PM.

    Commenter
    Dub
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:34PM
    • Finally lets all
      DUMP this Dudd

      Commenter
      Proud Australian
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:41PM
    • Dump the Dudd! Dump the Dudd! - best 3 word slogan ever. Let's cheer it loud and proud for the next 5 weeks!

      Commenter
      laborsucks.com
      Location
      Truth
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:53PM
    • "I'd forgotten just how cocky and arrogant Mr Rudd was..."

      I didn't forget. KRudd's arrogance was only beaten Gillard's incompetence. In five week's they'll both be gone. I will give one thing to Gillard - when she got the boot she went quietly. Kev will moan for weeks about how hard done by he was.

      Commenter
      Watchdog
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:00PM
    • Dub
      At least he fronts up to media conferences and answers questions.
      Where is Abbott????????

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:17PM
  • Yay. Just a month and we are rid of this terrible terrible government!

    Commenter
    shiyoganai
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:31PM
    • The Libs are out in full force today at SMH

      Commenter
      Sk
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:48PM
  • “It's time for Australians to decide. A positive plan for Australia's future or old negative politics” (KRudd).

    How positive is it this time with continuing ICAC investigations into three more former NSW Labor ministers, Kelly, Tripodi, and Costa? The budget deficit blowing out from $18 to $33 billion, guaranteeing the projected surplus (2016-17) the joke of the year. Not to mention underlining the fact that Labor still does not know what it is doing having miscalculated the deficit yet again, this time by $15 billion in less than ten weeks.

    “It’s Time, It’s L.A.W., Protecting jobs, supporting families” slogans have run their course to be nothing but hackneyed wild imaginings hiding Labor ploys of deception. Like time for climate change, when Rudd declared:

    “Climate change is the greatest moral, economic and social challenge of our time”.

    Last week Rudd thought it time to opportunistically discard these greatest challenges by scrapping the Energy Security Fund; the Coal Sector Jobs package allocation; the Carbon Capture and Storage program; the Biodiversity Fund; the Carbon Farming Futures program; and the Clean Technology Program.

    Meanwhile those with the latest scientific climate change data at fingertips like IMF Managing Director Christine Lagarde insists:

    “Unless we take action on climate change future generations will be roasted, toasted, fried and grilled.”

    Rudd said offshore processing was I quote:

    “A stain” to be removed?

    Apparently it’s time to reapply the stain?

    According to treasurer, Bowen it’s time…
    “'The five-year freeze, which commences immediately, means Australians can feel confident.”

    It’s past time we can be confident of Labor’s promises like promised superannuation incremental increases from 9 -12%.

    It’s time we didn’t have the highest cost of living in the western world of 159%.

    It’s time we didn’t have a debt ratio to GDP of 43%.

    Commenter
    Pen of hrba
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:30PM
    • Simple. Don't vote Labor.

      Commenter
      shiyoganai
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:38PM
    • Pen
      A fact free zone as usual.

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:44PM
    • hrba, i agree another 3 years of Rudd would just about finish off what jobs we have left by more taxes and regulation and gives us a debt approaching $500 billion. Future for our children looks bleak.

      Commenter
      Mal
      Location
      Cranbourne
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:54PM
    • and vote for who instead ? Larry, Curly and Moe would be a better choice than the coalition.

      Commenter
      davros
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:03PM
    • Steve

      Was you not told at university that valid conclusions based on undisputed facts makes for well constructed argument. Whereas presumption, slippery slopes, and assumption make for errors of reason.

      It is why I always quote the facts and only the facts. The only way to argue the truth is to tell lies.

      Commenter
      Pen of hrba
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:09PM
    • Mal
      how is lower unemployment that Howard and lower underemployment than Howard "the few jobs we have left"?
      You need to have less Murdoch in your diet and start looking at facts.

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:19PM
    • Steve, i do not need anybody to something i can see with my own eyes. Maybe you need to get out of you PS cocoon and see what is really happening out there - the feedback i have been getting is not good. Maybe it is better Rudd gets it and people will get what they deserve

      Commenter
      Mal
      Location
      Cranbourne
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:55PM
    • Pen
      So when are you going to base your conclusions on undisputed facts.
      Yours are always based on opinion dressed up as fact.

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:58PM
    • Mal
      Does everyone who disagrees with you have to be in a PS cocoon?
      I run my own business. A business that has done quite well under this government.
      I look at facts. I don't just listen to the opinions of the uneducated.

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 6:15PM
  • This was the same Kevin Rudd who was on the news last night 3/8/13 saying that he has not decided when the election will be called. Must have had a difficult night's sleep and then decided? Or was that another furfy from Kevin Rudd. Sorry Kevin I would not trust you with my lunch money.

    Commenter
    Ben
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:28PM
    • Don't worry he will tax your lunch money before long

      Commenter
      Mal
      Location
      Cranbourne
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:33PM
    • Agree. Lie no. 1. Glad others saw this...

      Commenter
      brenton
      Location
      sydney
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:54PM
    • Regardless who the PM is, some forms of new tax will be introduced. Liberal is mulling to lift GST.

      Commenter
      Ari
      Location
      Hurstville
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 6:30PM
  • I am astounded people are so uneducated; Julia out & Rudd in does not change the party or it's agenda. Neither would Abbott out & Turnull in. Australian voters are uneducated and selfish, putting their own "what's in it for me" as the only yardstick. Both Gilliard and Abbott do not warm the hearts of people, and that is why they are unpopular. As has been clearly demonstrated, the voter does not vote for the Prima Minister, but for an individual in an electorate..... eventually leading to the forming of a government. There should be an intelligence and selflessness test before an individual is entitled to vote.
    Whatever ones persuasion, try and think past this for the best option. Going on past performance and unity, this time round the choice is clearly a Coalition led Goverment.

    Commenter
    Gary
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:27PM
    • Well said

      Commenter
      Jules
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:50PM
    • Going on past performance put Abbott LAST after all he only "won" the liberal leadership by one vote his own..... So how is he going to govern ? If he did win there would be a REGIME CHANGE similar to PM Gillard.

      Commenter
      Ruckerhill Lower
      Location
      northcote
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:27PM
  • Can it please be known as save Australia Day not Election Day..

    Commenter
    Steiger
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:25PM
    • How about calling his demise 'Clean up Australia day'? We'd be throwing out the rubbish in the biggest and best way we can.

      Commenter
      Watchdog
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:47PM
    • Steiger
      Yes Save us from Murdoch day.

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:48PM
  • Rudd could not manage the economy in his first stint as PM, with ZERO net government debt.
    Why should voters trust Rudd this time around?

    Commenter
    Michele
    Location
    Templestowe
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:19PM
    • The intelligent voters within the electorate will see through Rudd's smokescreen, endless waffle, and social media stunts, and will vote him out. He's a complete fraud.

      Commenter
      laborsucks.com
      Location
      Truth
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:46PM
    • He managed it well enough - thanks to Labor we avoided the GFC. So your assertion is false and thus is the conclusion. Libs will have to try harder, lies, assertions and misinterpretations do not make a fact.

      Commenter
      Rob_Hob
      Location
      Australia
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:02PM
  • Thank God, Rudd will be gone this time in 5 weeks for ever.

    Commenter
    JVA
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:18PM
  • Labor's faceless men will have to seek Asylum when Rudd gets booted

    Commenter
    timjackelton
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:16PM
  • Why does Kevin Rudd always speak down to the people like we are stupid. We are not stupid. I think this election will be all about the economy. There is no savings for a Labor Government to use this time. We still got a long way ahead and historically when you want someone to manage the economy the safest bet is Liberal.

    Commenter
    Sarah of Carnegie
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:15PM
    • Lets hope it is about the economy(budget) that was stuffed up by the Libs. Bowen should bite the bullet and take back all the monies given to families by John Howard. Howard gave all this mining money knowing it was never sustainable. Many economists including John Hewson have noted if this was even partially done, the Budget would be in surplus.End of problem.

      Commenter
      SteadiEddie
      Location
      Country
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:24PM
    • Sarah
      Because stupid people think the LNP is better at managing the economy. Look at Fraser, look at Howard, The only surpluses were based on asset sales and they built nothing. That is not managing the economy. you don't sell your house just to have a positive bank balance.

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:25PM
    • That's because he will only talk to school kids or people to stupid to realise that Rudd is a facade and can only make promises which he will never keep or deliver

      Commenter
      terry
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:28PM
    • Steve,
      You have to sell your house if your debt is more than your house is worth and you can't make the repayments. That's what Howard was left with when he got in after a labor government, and this is what we are left with AGAIN! Only a month to go - Save Australia Day!

      Commenter
      mel
      Location
      coffs harbour
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:44PM
    • And Steve - why do you think Liberals had to sell of assets. Because another Labor government ran up masses of unsustainable debt again. And Rudd Government has done it again. Future generations will suffer from all this debt. You cannot keep spending, without some consequences. Do you teach your kids to rack up debt and not invest in some sort of savings

      Commenter
      Sarah of Carnegie
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:45PM
    • mel
      Australia's debt has never been "more than the house is worth". You have a pretty poor opinion of Australia's worth if you think that.
      Our debt has always been extremely low by comparison with the rest of the world. Even during the profligate years with Howard as Treasurer.
      Now we are among the lowest in the world and people are still listening to Murdoch's scare mongering.

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 6:03PM
    • Sarah
      Howard sold Assets to provide middle class welfare. Everyone knows that.
      Keating had set up the economy to take advantage of the biggest mining boom Australia has ever seen and Howard squandered the lot and tried to blame Keating.
      At least Costello has shown some honour by conceding that recently

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 6:05PM
  • Say NO to Murdoch and his puppet T.Abbott. Vote Labor.

    Commenter
    EA
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:15PM
    • Say NO to the trade unions, the ABC and their Facade Rudd.
      Vote for a positive future with the LIberala
      Commenterterry Date and time Today, 04:24PM

      Commenter
      terry
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:31PM
    • Not this time. Rudd's a liar, a fraud and an egomaniac. Vote LNP, and get rid of Labor's 6 year mess.

      Commenter
      shiyoganai
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:37PM
  • the labor party has spent the last 3 years trying to discredit him
    - don't forget that

    Commenter
    Average Sam
    Location
    Newcastle
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:15PM
  • Christine Milne, September 7th is not Threatened Species Day, It is cleanup Australia Day. Get it right.

    Commenter
    Farmer Joe
    Location
    Mackay
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:13PM
    • According to the Clean Up Australia website (http://www.cleanupaustraliaday.org.au/about/faq#1) the next Clean Up Australia Day is in March 2014. Accoring to many Web sites, incluidng the WWF and Taronga Zoo, Sep 7th is Threatened Species Day. Suggest YOU get it right Farmer Joe!!

      Commenter
      kywong73
      Location
      Sydney (Northern Beaches)
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:36PM
    • I agree, it's Clean Up Australia Day. It's all about getting the bag and filling it with rubbish. By voting Labor out on the 7th September we'd all be doing that. We just need to make sure of it - vote Labor out and we'll cure the debt problem, stop the boats coming, get people off the dole and back to work and get funding for the states to complete infrastructure improvements on the way.

      What's Labor done in six years? Suck up to the Greens, sign the worthle Kyoto Protocol and give people like Tim Flannery and Cate Blanchett air time to waffle on about the climate change fallacy and the republic. It's all yesterday's news from yesterday's heros.

      It's time to move forward with another conservative government. Whoopps, did I just quote Gillard there?

      Commenter
      Watchdog
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:22PM
  • Can't vote for any of them.

    Commenter
    Lipwig
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:13PM
  • A man died and went to Heaven. As he stood in front of the Pearly Gates, he saw a huge wall of clocks behind him. He asked, 'What are all those clocks?'
    St. Peter answered, 'Those are Lie-Clocks. Everyone who has ever been on earth has a Lie-Clock. Every time you lie, the hands on your clock move.'
    'Oh', said the man. 'Whose clock is that?'
    'That's Mother Teresa's', replied St. Peter. 'The hands have never moved,
    indicating that she never told a lie.'
    'Incredible', said the man. 'And whose clock is that one?'
    St. Peter responded, 'That's Abraham Lincoln's clock. The hands have moved twice telling us that Abraham told only two lies in his entire life.'
    'Where's Kevin Rudd's's clock?' asked the man.
    St Peter replied, 'We are using it as a ceiling fan. ‘

    Commenter
    Bobbytumblong
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:10PM
    • Both funny ...... and true !

      Commenter
      Gary
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:45PM
    • Abbott, Hockey, Pyne, Bishop and co have theirs bolted under the wings of Airbuses as power plants. You don't have to convince us that Rudd is a dud, you have to convince us that the above mentioned would be better.

      Commenter
      davros
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:59PM
  • Watch Abbott duck and weave trying to get out of debates and long press interviews. It's going to be an Abbotteers nightmare. Too funny...

    Commenter
    SteadiEddie
    Location
    Country
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:10PM
  • Great...can we see the LNP's policies now please.

    Commenter
    Tony B
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:09PM
  • Has he chosen Sept 7 because it rhymes with Kevin?

    Commenter
    Luke
    Location
    Marrickville
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:08PM
    • Yes he can now use his old Kevin07 tea shirts

      Commenter
      Ecka
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:36PM
    • Yes, it makes it easier for the airhead Gen Y's to remember who they're supposed to vote for. Unless they live in the electorate of Griffiths, they will spend half their Saturday morning looking for Kevin Rudd's name on their ballot papers.

      Commenter
      Manny
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:51PM
  • Looking forward to the debates
    Rudd v Abbott
    Bowen v Hockey
    Wong v Robb
    Shorten v Pyne
    Albenese v Turnbul
    Murdoch V Labor
    Must be worrying for the LNP.

    Commenter
    Johno
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:05PM
    • LNP's only chance is if they avoid any debate. Whenever they try, they look like the fools they are.

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:14PM
    • Just like the debate PM Rudd set with Abbott he never showed, thats because tony hasn't any policies and nothing to say...

      Of course he can ride his bike and swim . Is that what we want from our Australian PM ?

      Ah Ah Ah Ah

      Commenter
      Ruckershill Lower
      Location
      northcote
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:22PM
    • I agree, the debates should between the resctive people who are most likely to hold the cabinet and opposition positions in the next parliament. If Rudis the only ALP person debating I will switch off for all time.

      Commenter
      Tony of Kureelpa
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:54PM
  • Damit! There goes any chance of having anything signed off this week at work...

    Commenter
    Ailie
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:03PM
  • Thank the lord that we are FINALLY going to be able to express our opinion on the last 6 years...

    Commenter
    Alternate View
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:03PM
    • Alternate
      You had that opportunity 3 years ago. Thankfully we have had a productive and transparent government since then.
      Now we get to choose between Labor and Murdoch.

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:08PM
    • Steve your not a troll much are you. Why are u so afraid of Murdoch? Success scares you doesn't it? That fear if the unknown. Get a life, stop hiding behind your union contract and face the real world

      Commenter
      Hornberger
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:36PM
    • Naturally, I tried to take that opportunity 3 years ago, but was thwarted. This time I am confident that I will be successful.

      Commenter
      Alternate View
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:47PM
  • The Labor mob are good at figuring. They calculate that the Libs promises have a $70 billion black hole. They must be prescient because the Libs haven't even released their suite of promises yet. Anyhow, who the hell do they think they are? They can't even predict their own black holes.

    Commenter
    Farmer Joe
    Location
    Mackay
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:02PM
    • Farmer Joe
      That $70bn is just on what they have said to date.
      Imagine how much more it will be after Abbott promises everyone the earth.

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:09PM
    • Its the only account that we have on what they have promised so far.

      Why are Abbott and Hockey hiding their numbers, other than to fool the Australian people?

      Commenter
      Whyalla Wipeout
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:15PM
    • The thought that after the last six years, Labor would try to campaign on any economic issues is puzzling.

      Every time we hear an accusation of a Coalition black hole, it will bring back memories of six massive deficits, the $300 billion debt, the carbon tax and MRRT forecasts and the most famous of all three word slogans - we've "returned to surplus".

      Commenter
      Hacka
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:23PM
    • Labor's at $300 billion debt. Pot. Kettle. Black.

      Commenter
      shiyoganai
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:40PM
    • The ALP have just announced a $30billion "black hole" in this financial year alone, that they didn't predict only 11 WEEKS AGO (budget). How on earth can you trust them to know anything about the coalition's costings when they have no idea of their own?

      Commenter
      Alternate View
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:40PM
    • Hacka, perhaps you can enlighten us on how the Liberals will address the $70 billion gap between its proposed spending and receipts?

      After all, you know everything else that goes on in Fortress Credlin.

      Commenter
      Whyalla Wipeout
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:45PM
    • WW - could you itemise these supposed holes are by chance ?

      Can you also let us know when the next Labor budget update will come out ?

      Sep 7 might though avoid Treasury reporting the real 2012/13 deficit before the election.

      Commenter
      Hacka
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:55PM
    • Hacka
      No massive deficits, no massive debt.
      Only massive exaggeration by the LNP hacks.

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:56PM
    • Hacka, can you tell us when the first Liberal accounting of the cost of their handful of actual promises comes out? I'm happy to rely on the Government's accounting in the absence of ANY sort of accounting at all by Hockey and Abbott. The $70 billion figure is all that is on the table. My money is that the Libs are happy to leave it there because the truth is so much more terrifying.

      Listened to Abbott blather on with Hail Mary motherhood statements. No substance. Avoided every question and campaigned as John Howard.

      If he gets in, everyone who votes for him gets what they deserved. The rest of us will just have to cope.

      Commenter
      Whyalla Wipeout
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:53PM
    • WW - it was Wong who brought up that figure, and couldn't of course provide a basis for it.

      Wong also told us there's been a return to surplus. In fact she's helped deliver over $200 billion in deficits.

      Credibility is the biggest economic hurdle Labor face - they simply can't campaign on any of their track record, which is appalling.

      Commenter
      Hacka
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 6:33PM
  • Go Rudd PM!

    Commenter
    EA
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:01PM
  • Let's Stop the ABBOTT! Say no to LNP L platers. Say no to LNP lies. Say no to the policy vacuum party. Say no to mr NO. Let's get behind K.Rudd and vote Labor.

    Commenter
    EA
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 4:00PM
    • Not me sorry, EA. LNP policy vacuum yet some a claiming a $70b hole in Lib's policies? Which is it? No policies, or a massive hole based on lots of policies?? Labor have had their chance and stuffed it.

      Commenter
      brenton
      Location
      sydney
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:03PM
  • I guess Kev has to ask the public for $5 to pay for all the advertising now that the government money well has been turned off. All the millions spent advertising failed policies.

    Has anyone got a better use for $5?

    Commenter
    Vulture
    Location
    Gladesville
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 3:55PM
  • Just get rid of Hanson-Young!!!!

    Commenter
    Hard Edge
    Location
    Manus Island
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 3:53PM
    • Yes please.

      Commenter
      Blackyshark
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:05PM
    • +1

      Commenter
      FlashAds
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:07PM
    • Yes please!!

      Commenter
      Sharron
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:19PM
    • I concur.

      Commenter
      EA
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:29PM
  • If Labor gets in again on the back of Rudd's personal popularity I will lose all respect for the Australian voter!

    This is the same incompetent party we've had to endure for the past 6 years.

    Commenter
    ecom78
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 3:52PM
    • If Murdoch wins, I will lose respect for Australian voters. people who can be led that easily deserve to lose their country to an American billionaire.

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:12PM
    • Hmm Incompetant. Avoiding the GFC when the rest of he planet collapsed, Keeping Australia in growth. One of the lowest unemployment rates in the OECD. A National Disability Health Insurance Scheme.. yes all the hallmarks of incompetance. Maybe go look at a dictionary you wally, you'll find a familiar face in Abbott under the word incompetance. Afer all he couldn't even disloge an unpopular minority government with Murdoch's constant help.

      Commenter
      Stevo6210
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:53PM
  • Go Kevin Rudd. Beat Abbott and Murdoch.

    Commenter
    monica
    Location
    sydney
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 3:51PM
    • +1 ... yea ... go Kevin !!!

      Commenter
      LindaC
      Location
      democratic Australia
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 3:57PM
    • Go Tony Abbott. Beat Rudd and Obama's spin merchants.

      Commenter
      Tim of Altona
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:17PM
    • And the ABC !

      Commenter
      Ecka
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:41PM
  • I won't be voting for any of the major parties, and that includes the far-left Greens. I'll be voting either for an independent that I like the sound of (definitely no religion) or I'll be spoiling my vote.

    Commenter
    Tom
    Location
    Qld
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 3:49PM
    • Same... I don't believe in this Government or the next. There will come a time when they will collapse.

      Commenter
      Meh1
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 3:56PM
    • Yeh because a hung parliament is good government isn't it. What a waste.

      Commenter
      FlashAds
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:09PM
    • Flashads
      That hung parliament ended up being one of the most productive in history.

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:20PM
    • Steve - thousands and thousands of pages of legislation doth not necessarily good government make.

      Commenter
      FlashAds
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:26PM
    • +1

      Commenter
      Pierre73
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:36PM
    • Flashads
      Low unemployment, low inflation, low interest rates, massive investment in infrastructure, NDIS and education funding reform DO make for good government.
      Selling assets to claim a surplus is not good government.

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:58PM
    • @Steve 4:20pm, just because they have passed lots of legislation, doesn't make it good. I wish they had left well enough alone and we wouldn't be in the mess we're in. You are a labor dream - swallow and repeat their lines without a thought of your own.. Your comments read like a labor script.

      Commenter
      jimbo
      Location
      melb
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:45PM
  • It's time to get rid of the Ruddless ship! Time for a change of government.The torturous journey is over and finally we can vote ��Labor OUT!

    Commenter
    Magoo
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 3:47PM
    • Very apt name Magoo. Like your namesake, you obviously can't see

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 3:58PM
  • Fee Fi Fo Fum – I smell the blood of an election coming on. Well it was a good day to sleep in. By the time I woke the drama and tension of the last few weeks has become the kind of reality or nightmare you dream about. It feels like one of those contested family dramas, with all the hidden baggage and bickering for years conspicuously on display. I am coming to think that democracy is a most vulgar display aimed designed to appeal to a collective desire. I call this governing in the age of blatant consumption. All the options are here displayed Katter, Rudd, Hanson, Abbott, and even Obeid are represented today in this snapshot picture. Is there a better system ? I'd like to think so . . .

    Commenter
    Ruark Lewis
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 3:46PM
  • "A positive plan for Australia's future or old negative politics...."

    Sounds like KRudd is encouraging people to vote Greens this election. It's very kind of him to do that...

    Commenter
    Riddley Walker
    Location
    Inland
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 3:44PM
    • Who are the Greens? I thought they were a division of Labor that imploded last time around.

      Commenter
      timjackelton
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 3:55PM
    • I must have read Rudd wrong. I took it that he was promoting Billy the Blacksmith from the Save the Bullamakanka Bandicoot Party. I still think I will vote for Billy anyway. He sounds like a good bloke.

      Commenter
      Farmer Joe
      Location
      Mackay
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:06PM
  • Really? We're standing by getting minute-by-minute commentary of Rudd arriving to announce an election date? If this is achieving anything, it's demonstrating how lowbrow politics AND media are in this country.

    Commenter
    Seka
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 3:44PM
  • Game on! More Greens, More Indis and Labor led please.
    And Definetly NO Abbott.

    Commenter
    A country gal
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 3:43PM
    • Poor country girl; you've only got one month of the gravy train left...then it's back to earning your lot. It was fun while it lasted though! At least we don't have to pay it back; our kids can do that. They'll need to live sustainably then, cos their money will be going toward paying the debt off

      Commenter
      I hate pies
      Location
      Qld
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:32PM
    • I hate pies
      So you are waiting for the billionaires' gravy train are you?
      And you think they are going to let you on?

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:39PM
  • Let the leaks begin - from the ALP disaffected. Will be fun to watch

    Commenter
    Eric
    Location
    Brisbane
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 3:43PM
  • Where did Rudd get his education because judging by his E-mail he certainly can't spell.

    Commenter
    Klangdang
    Location
    Wells Crossing NSW
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 3:42PM
    • Abbott borrowed it three years ago. Perhaps you can ask for it back. while you're there, can you ask about a policy? We'd all like to hear one.

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:00PM
    • Back of the cereal box, same as his policies!

      Commenter
      laborsucks.com
      Location
      Truth
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:57PM
  • Now, where DID I put that baseball bat?

    Commenter
    Bruce Baldey
    Location
    Deep South
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 3:41PM
  • I agree with LindaC: "G Rudd".

    Go and don't return. Your lot have really stuffed things over 6 years. Time for a fix.

    10,000 in detention. Kids behind razor wore as never before. Over 1,000 dead because you "fixed" something that wasn't broken. Hated by your colleagues. Yes, please go!

    September 7 can't come soon enough.

    Come on down Tony!!!!

    Commenter
    Centurion
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 3:41PM
    • The problem is, Tony will be worse.

      It should be "come on down, Adam"!

      Commenter
      Riddley Walker
      Location
      Inland
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 3:50PM
    • :P ... bleh

      Commenter
      LindaC
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 3:52PM
  • It's on, Rudd and Australia's future (NBN!) against Rupert Murdoch and his bottom line.
    The result should be a no brainer.

    Commenter
    JNM
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 3:41PM
    • yep a vote for Rudd you certainly have no brains based on their past performance

      Commenter
      Mal
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:23PM
  • "STOP THE ABBOTT"

    Commenter
    Neal
    Location
    Cairns
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 3:39PM
    • STOP THE RUDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Commenter
      Balance
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 3:47PM
    • STOP THE GREENS!!

      Commenter
      Sharron
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 3:55PM
    • A vote for Abbott is a vote for the amalgamation of church and state.

      The majority of Australians aren't silly enough to vote for someone who would undermine the entire Westminster system of government by allowing his religious views dictate his policies.

      Commenter
      Jessica
      Location
      Mosman
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:00PM
    • Jessica
      "A vote for Abbott is a vote for the amalgamation of church and state."

      I never seen Abbott give a press conference outside a church unlike facade Rudd who did it all the time he was PM the first time and his second coming he was giving press conference after church.
      All that alright with you.

      Commenter
      terry
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:15PM
    • Rubbish @Jessica. Tony Abbott has made it crystal clear he will not block listing of RU486 and misoprostol on PBS. It was the firebrand RC Harradine that blocked RU486. Another good reason not to vote independent or Green.

      Commenter
      FlashAds
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:17PM
  • Finally we can vote Rudd the dud out of office for good. The last 6 years has been a bad govt(rudd, gillard, back to rudd, for a short time). Time for them to go and Give the coalition a go.

    Commenter
    Captain Cocopops
    Location
    Loopyloop
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 3:39PM
  • Lets see how Eleventy fills the 70 billion Black hole he has to fill ..cut cut cut .
    by the way Australia has low debt .

    Commenter
    TassieDave1966
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 3:38PM
    • You must have missed Rudds $300,000,000,000 black hole which will have to be paid for by your children and grandchildren

      Commenter
      brinken
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:18PM
    • Low debt at $300bn? That's three times the debt Greece had when they hit the wall. That said, under Howard there was NO DEBT AT ALL - something Labor and Greens followers are in self-denial about.

      Commenter
      Watchdog
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:08PM
    • So what was the alternative? Yep let the economy go under like the rest of the developed world. And the effect of that? Yep millions of unemployed and an economy that is far worse than having a massive debit.

      Simple fact is the government borrowed, yes in large numbers to keep large number of every day Australians in work which has kept the economy stronger than what it would have otherwise been.

      Commenter
      Jimmy
      Location
      CBR
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:10PM
  • I hope Kevin 007 checked the date with Eddie and a few of the NSW boys just so they knew exactly where to be on Sept 7. Wouldn't want them to be O/S on this important occasion.

    Commenter
    enough is enough
    Location
    Labor party La La Land
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 3:38PM
  • Kevin tweet a choice between old negative politics or a positive plan. I've assume he is referring to himself, the negative self, in the former.
    I know I'll vote for honesty anytime so I will vote for the later that is Abbott.

    Commenter
    Terry of WA
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 3:37PM
  • At least it will all be over quickly.

    Commenter
    Jakakfkcks
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 3:34PM
  • Kevin please explain how much money you have spent in the last few weeks to lift the polls - lets see,, 2 billion for PNG for refugees, x billons to states for education. That's why Australias in 300billion debt since Howard's surplus and we and our future generation will pay for it when Rudd is gone in Sep 7,

    I wonder how much secret deals happended for Vic to sign up.
    I think Australians are smart enough to see through Kevin's failed promises.

    Commenter
    Terry of WA
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 3:34PM
    • because we had the GFC it make sense to go into debt to keep the economy going . oh and howard only got his surplus via selling off everything plus the kitchen sink

      Commenter
      TassieDave1966
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 3:40PM
    • The problem is that their own budgets change every 10 weeks. So how are they going to be believed when they say the budget will be back in surplus in 2016. By the way they promised that in 2010 for this year....

      Commenter
      MrBiggles
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:21PM
    • @Tassie +1

      Commenter
      EA
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:38PM
  • How exciting, only four more weeks until we get to revel in Tony Murdoch's concession speech.

    Commenter
    Jessica
    Location
    Mosman
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 3:34PM
    • +1 ... LOL

      Commenter
      LindaC
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 3:40PM
    • Ditto!!!!! Crikey will I crack the champagne!

      Commenter
      A country gal
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 3:57PM
    • acg, you will not be able to afford champagne as Rudd will probably tax it like the cigarettes

      Commenter
      Mal
      Location
      Cranbourne
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:59PM
  • get rid of him, and get rid of him altogether and forever

    Commenter
    jorj41
    Location
    thailand
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 3:33PM
    • +1 I can't stand those trite slogans any longer.

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:38PM
  • It was nice for Kevin 007 to let Bill and his extended family finish off their Sunday lunch before visiting the GG.

    Commenter
    enough is enough
    Location
    Labor party L La Land
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 3:33PM
  • I see that Stephanie got her E-mail.

    Commenter
    Klangdang
    Location
    Wells Crossing NSW
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 3:32PM
  • Ha! And here's me thinking Hacka was having a Sunday afternoon sleep.

    Commenter
    Sharron
    Location
    Canberra
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 3:31PM
  • Beauty! I've been waited to cast my vote, and my ALP Member out!

    Commenter
    Jack Black
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 3:30PM
    • It's interesting to see how well Labor haters can write.

      Commenter
      HiLo
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 3:40PM
    • @HiLo....Not near as interesting to see that Labor lovers can read it

      Commenter
      Jack
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:23PM
    • Me! Vote Labor? LOL

      One day, rusted on Lib lovers will discover that there's more than two parties.

      Commenter
      HiLo
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:18PM
    • Sex Party?

      Commenter
      Ohhhh!
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 6:27PM
  • I remember Kevin 07 fresh ideas and how so little was delivered. I shudder when I think of what Kevn 13 fresher ideas will bring Australia.

    Since then we are 300 billion in debt, wasted 96% of the resource boom, Gillard knifed Rudd knifed Gillard nonesense, labor corruption in NSW, new taxes, labor incompetence, an overbudget 90 billion NBN, dirty deals with independants. I am so ready that this election will settle Rudd once and for all...It is just sad that the most of the original perpetrators are on govenment pensions now with only Rudd still around.

    Commenter
    Terry of WA
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 3:30PM
  • In 43 years I have never felt so much enmity as I do towards Labor today.

    Commenter
    Evanism
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 3:29PM
    • Why because they have governed for all not just the big end of town? It's only an election. If the LNP get back in well normal trashing of rights will resume. You'll be happy then?

      Commenter
      Empho
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 3:35PM
    • Evanism
      Too much Murdoch in your diet ten. try to get more balance in your media intake and all will be well

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:03PM
    • Steve still trolling, why hate winners? Cause u are not one?

      Commenter
      Hornberger
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:41PM
    • Hornberger. I only see one troll here and it not steve. By the way on the 8 Sep we will see who is the looser. If it Abbott we all are unless you are from the big end of town or just an uniformed Murdoch reader who we have to pity.

      Commenter
      Jason
      Location
      Gold Coast
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:25PM
    • Steve's been trolling all arvo. Hasn't got a clue. Hasn't done any research. Gen Y. Sigh.

      Commenter
      Gerard
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:41PM
  • Campaign should be interesting; how many Labor policies can Tones pinch? He's not good with other people's stuff is he?

    Commenter
    Empho
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 3:29PM
    • You've got things around the wrong way. Rudd pinching Abbott/Lib policy - scrap carbon tax, stop the boats, overseas settlement for illegal (yes illegal) boat arrivals.

      Commenter
      Flash Right
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:21PM
    • Ah Dumpho... which policies would you have Abbott steal... would they be the boat policy, pity krudd and gillard needed to experience their own border crisis and not learn from Howard. Would they be the pink batts, the student laptop, the grocery watch, fuel watch, green loans, cash for clunkers, education revolution , live cattle, $900 handouts... your credibility couldn't fill a thimble but it would do better than your intelligence... best for you to stay quiet.

      Commenter
      Steve Nosympathy
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:40PM
    • +1

      Commenter
      Ruckershill Lower
      Location
      northcote
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:11PM
  • The "show pony" is about to be retired permanently.

    Commenter
    Klangdang
    Location
    Wells Crossing NSW
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 3:27PM
    • I'm guessing you're talking about Show Pony Tony then eh? Our Kevin with give him a Rev'in.

      Commenter
      Pete the Pirate
      Location
      Ulladulla NSW
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 3:46PM
    • Good, I'm sick of Speedos and Lycra too.

      Commenter
      A country gal
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:03PM
  • Finally after three years of bumbling and stumbling through a hung parliament we get to pass judgement on the performance of the government.

    Kev's hunger to head to Moscow might preclude the September the 7th though.

    Commenter
    Hacka
    Location
    Canberra
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 3:22PM
    • And presumably we can pass judgement on a conspiratorial Opposition. See Judge Rares remarks.

      Commenter
      Empho
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 3:31PM
    • Wrong it's Sept 7th

      Commenter
      RTP.
      Location
      Sawtell
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 3:32PM
    • I've been very happy with the achievements (mostly) of this hung Parliament. I'll be very happy to see more hung Parliaments in the future - they mean that Bills get a proper scrutiny and debate.

      Let's see 5 -6 more Greens in the House and a few more in the Senate for a better quality of democracy and politics in general.

      Commenter
      Riddley Walker
      Location
      Inland
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 3:34PM
    • I hope the next 'bumbling and stumbling' parliament is a productive as this one. Despite all the headline grabbing vitriol, plenty of legislation was passed.

      Commenter
      Canoath
      Location
      the Gong
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 3:37PM
    • If it is Sep 7th then Kev must have had one almighty fight with Hawker and his other advisers. It's not like Rudd to throw in the towel so easily.

      Commenter
      Hacka
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 3:38PM
    • Looks like the direct line failed Havka. Bring on the NBN. And bring on another minority Labor govt.
      There's more positive infrastructure and reform to be done.
      Say NO to a Murdoch puppet.

      Commenter
      A country gal
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 3:49PM
    • Country Girl - Vote no to an Eddie Obeid puppet

      Commenter
      enough is enough
      Location
      Labor party La La Land
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 3:56PM
    • Hacka
      So after all this time you've decided to vote Labor. Get rid of bumbling Abbott and his Sidekick Hockey who can't add up.

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:02PM
    • He's sending the Used Carr instead.

      Commenter
      Mack
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:39PM
    • Hacka, aren't you happy we didn't end up in the abyss, just imagine Australia if tony was PM the english VCE would have been made up of slogans and tweets. Of course we are the clever country, full of liberal bogan slogans right.

      Commenter
      Ruckershill Lower
      Location
      northcote
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:17PM
    • Hacka. What the great Hacka got it wrong! What else have you got wrong? Maybe the telephone to glory isn’t working so well.

      Commenter
      Jason
      Location
      Gold Coast
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:31PM
  • Woy Woy Ettalong - mobility scooter mecca of the central coast. Mail on Friday - one circular printed and authorised in Canberra telling me my FBT is up the spout along with my novated lease - another printed and authorised locally talking about pensions and offering advice on same. Hmmm

    Commenter
    David D
    Location
    Ettalong Beach
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 3:22PM
    • I didn't understand two words in this post.

      Commenter
      Doyal
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 3:41PM
    • Doyal, quite simple really.Clearly Canberra is totally out of touch, whoever wrote that and the local whoever office understands policies that clearly affect the majority of the electorate.
      Not that hard at all.

      Commenter
      A country gal
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:01PM
    • Country Girl; Thanks - the local (member) is a woman; Brian Whatev authorised the one from Canberra

      Commenter
      David D
      Location
      Ettalong Beach
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:07PM
  • Go, Rudd !!!

    Commenter
    LindaC
    Location
    democratic Australia
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 3:21PM
    • Or is that "GO RUDD".... Now.....

      Commenter
      Evanism
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 3:49PM
    • It is Go Rudd. Now. Get out. Leave. Gonski. Forever. and Ever.

      Commenter
      shiyoganai
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:41PM
  • Kevin, can you please give us all another $950 to help us make up our minds who to vote for.

    Commenter
    isenz
    Location
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 3:20PM
    • Unfortunately with Australia's own Cypriot crisis where savings are now being additionally taxed there just won't be enough money to fund the next TAB bet or flat screen TV.

      Commenter
      enough is enough
      Location
      Labor party L La Land
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 3:35PM
    • I could also use some more pink batts and a faster Internet. The kids wouldn't mind an education revolution either. I think we can also fit some refugees in the spare room. Cheers.

      Commenter
      More Please
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 3:51PM
    • Perhaps if the big miners paid their fair share of tax you would have got double ?

      Commenter
      Ruckershill Lower
      Location
      northcote
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 5:10PM
  • I hope Clive Palmer is ready for the election!

    Commenter
    Sharron
    Location
    Canberra
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 3:16PM
  • Can't wait for another minority government, can you?

    Commenter
    Opinion Only
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    August 04, 2013, 3:12PM
    • A minority government has actually been very good for the country.

      And the fact that the Libs hated it made it even better.

      Commenter
      HiLo
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 3:42PM
    • " A minority Government has actually been good for the country". Are you serious? in what way? This Labor "Government" has been an unmitigated disaster. A 30 Billion deficit, the revolving door of leaders, pink batts, fuel watch, vision 20/20 summit, Malaysia, "don't lurch to the right" from Rudd, NBN overspend, etc, etc, etc. See "HiLo, unlike you I have provided some examples to support my statement.

      Commenter
      Tony
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:02PM
    • Tony
      So how is low unemployment, low inflation, low interest rates, low debt, no recession, AAA credit Rating, NDIS and education reform an unmitigated disaster?
      Would you prefer we were not leading the world?
      Voting for Murdoch would be the ultimate tall poppy syndrome, cutting ourselves off at the knees.

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:17PM
    • Steve how is $300-billion in debt and growing (yes $300bn) NOT an unmitigated disaster? This govt is terrible, they are getting voted out. Go support a footy team!

      Commenter
      shiyoganai
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:33PM
    • Steve, no-one has said where the money is going o come from to fund all these promises. How can working one hour a week be considered as employed. Low interest rates are a sign of an economy in trouble. We are catching up the the world because they are making the same mistakes.

      Commenter
      Mal
      Location
      Cranbourne
      Date and time
      August 04, 2013, 4:46PM
    • Shyoganai
      Low debt is never a disaster. And the heads of Australian businesses are calling for the government to borrow more and build more infrastructure. so Tony's mates bviously don't think the debt is too high.

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      Steve
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      August 04, 2013, 5:02PM
    • Steve

      Our banking sector was structured by superior forms of regulation and authority, our four major banks maintained AAA rating with no danger of them defaulting by Peter Costello’s actions not Labor’s actions.

      The deficit is now $33 billion, $15 billion more than last week. Add the full cost of Disabilty Care over 3 years takes it to $99 billion. Add Goski and its $113 billion. Add 100 F35 strike fighter planes and its $119 billion. Now work out how we pay of debt of 43% of GDP.

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      Pen of hrba
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      August 04, 2013, 5:02PM
    • The minority government has meant that major decisions had to be made publicly, with considerable discussion, and not inside a closed party room, according to party dogma.

      Much healthier.

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      HiLo
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      August 04, 2013, 5:20PM
    • Mal
      Ask Howard. he was the one who changed the rules to measure 1 hour a week as "employed". Before him it was 20 hours per week.
      But underemployment has been going down, so I wouldn't worry.
      Low interest rates are only a sign of a poor economy if you have negative growth. We have had positive growth every year while the rest of the world has gone backward.

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      Steve
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      August 04, 2013, 5:22PM
    • Pen
      A fact free zone again! The prudential rules were put in place by Keating. Howard and Costello tried to relax them to bring them into line with the US but Labor and the Nationals combined to stop him.

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      Steve
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      August 04, 2013, 5:24PM
    • 6.5% is "low unemployment". Under Howard it was down to around 4% which it has never been under Labor. Ironic how Labor call themselves the party for the battlers when they can't get them into the workplace, isn't it.

      I suppose you also think that a $300bn debt is low. Fact is, both unemployment and the debt is pathetically high.

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      Watchdog
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      August 04, 2013, 5:32PM
    • Watchdog
      It was only briefly at 4%, but you hold onto your fantasy anyway.
      Howard also presided over high inflation and high interest rates. Are you going to brag about them as well?

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      Steve
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      August 04, 2013, 5:49PM
    • No government creates employment per se. only private enterprise does. If a government relates government jobs it crowds out efficient private enterprise. Cutting red tape can create jobs.

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      Drew
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      August 04, 2013, 6:46PM
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