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Politics wrap: March 18, 2013

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  • J.Fraser. It seems mediocre notoriety have gone right to your head. Don't treat the thinking public like fools or you'll end up going down the same path as your heroine and role model Julia Gillard.

    Commenter
    zac48
    Location
    Melb.
    Date and time
    March 18, 2013, 5:23PM
    • The girl stood on the burning duckboard . . .

      Commenter
      Leigh Oats
      Date and time
      March 18, 2013, 5:22PM
      • A remarkable day in Australian politics where Murdoch appears to be taking over the Australian House of Representatives by "Slick" Abbott proxy.

        And once again "Slick" Abbott shows just how uninterested he is in the Australian public and the Liberal party followed "Slick" Abbott down the same path of disinterest.

        Commenter
        J. Fraser
        Location
        Queensland
        Date and time
        March 18, 2013, 4:58PM
        • If there was a classic textbook case of political suicide, Gillard and her three inner circle clowns of Swan, Conroy and Nixon have shown how cleverly it is done. When you thought that they have already inflicted enough damage, they somehow have the uncanny knack of pulling another "rabbit" out of the hat. Even Graham Richardson who was a strong Gillard supporter as late as 12 months ago and a strident opposition to a Rudd comeback has in the last few moths "thawed" and realised that Gillard can no longer win the forthcoming election. He has for sometime been calling for Labor to replace Gillard with Rudd, whom he knows is Labor's only hope.

          Commenter
          GSM
          Location
          Chatswood, NSW
          Date and time
          March 18, 2013, 4:51PM
          • Timmy =8
            "SteveH." = 10
            "Carstendog" =11
            "enough" =7

            And that's just 4 of the "Slick" Abbott cheer squad postings.

            Looks like I've not only got 2+ years to catch up on but also 4 to 1 opponents.

            I like those odds.

            Commenter
            J. Fraser
            Location
            Queensland
            Date and time
            March 18, 2013, 4:34PM
            • Think you will be off the air by 15/9/2013

              Commenter
              Baltic13
              Date and time
              March 18, 2013, 4:45PM
            • @Fraser. I'm chuffed to make your list but I don't see you as a successful gambler. Maybe you should take up boootie knitting like your superhero Truthful Julia. Apparently she is practising a lot lately for a future career.

              Commenter
              enough is enough
              Location
              Casino Royale La La Land
              Date and time
              March 18, 2013, 5:13PM
          • News Ltd Australia the most concentrated media ownership anywhere in the world.

            Bring on any media reforms.

            Commenter
            J. Fraser
            Location
            Queensland
            Date and time
            March 18, 2013, 4:12PM
            • Yep just goes to show what happens when you actually write stuff in the paper that people like to read.

              Commenter
              Alternate View
              Location
              ALP Land
              Date and time
              March 18, 2013, 4:36PM
            • No, it shows what happens when the mega rich have pretty much total control of information and favour one side of politics who in turn pander to them.

              There is no Alternat(iv)e View in Australia

              Commenter
              Rusty
              Location
              Narre Warren
              Date and time
              March 18, 2013, 5:21PM
          • Great Senate hearing on 24 tv.

            Behind Kim Williams is a Journalist furiously writing with a pen and paper all that is being said while another Journalists in the shot jiggles an Apple computer on his kneecaps.

            Once again the pen proves mightier than the computer .... in a bizarre world.

            Commenter
            J. Fraser
            Location
            Queensland
            Date and time
            March 18, 2013, 4:05PM
            • Imagine if Abbott and the Libs reversed policy on gay marriage between now and September - is that a 20 seat majority to the Coalition I see?

              Commenter
              Tim of Altona
              Date and time
              March 18, 2013, 3:55PM
              • I'm all for it ..... it will just show Australians "Slick" Abbott in his true colours again.

                Commenter
                J. Fraser
                Location
                Queensland
                Date and time
                March 18, 2013, 4:01PM
              • Correction - 40 seat majority to the Coalition

                Commenter
                Tim of Altona
                Date and time
                March 18, 2013, 4:15PM
            • Murdoch's News Ltd. has no public interest statement in its Code of Conduct.

              "Slick" Abbott is defending Murdoch's News Ltd.

              Commenter
              J. Fraser
              Location
              Queensland
              Date and time
              March 18, 2013, 3:47PM
                • Clearly the "Slick" filter aint working too well at Fairfax today - see what happens when you turn it off??

                  Commenter
                  Tim of Altona
                  Date and time
                  March 18, 2013, 3:58PM
                • Tim, we can only wish! so fed up with constant barrage fro JFraser, full of rubbish

                  Commenter
                  Huey
                  Date and time
                  March 18, 2013, 4:19PM
              • Kim Williams CEO of News Ltd. (Australia) speaking in the Senate on media reform bill looks like a future time capsule of Rudd 10 years from now.

                Commenter
                J. Fraser
                Location
                Queensland
                Date and time
                March 18, 2013, 3:39PM
                • @"Tired Camel"

                  Don't put "Slick" Abbott down any lower or the Liberal party will start looking at M.Turnbull M.P. again.

                  Plenty of Australians wish they would.

                  Commenter
                  J. Fraser
                  Location
                  Queensland
                  Date and time
                  March 18, 2013, 3:35PM
              • Does Tony line dance?

                Commenter
                SteveH.
                Date and time
                March 18, 2013, 3:33PM
                • Pulse 3.19 - Only 3 more before budget sessions! Yay.

                  Commenter
                  rockoyster
                  Location
                  Tasmania
                  Date and time
                  March 18, 2013, 3:32PM
                  • The Pulse 3:10pm

                    Even Howard knew enough not to be photographed basking in News Ltd. hubris.

                    Commenter
                    J. Fraser
                    Location
                    Queensland
                    Date and time
                    March 18, 2013, 3:19PM
                    • All "Slick" Abbott can do is waste time in the Australian parliament because News Ltd. wants him to.

                      Put off debate on the reform of media Bill because to much debate by "Slick" Abbott will look too much like News Ltd.running Australia.

                      Commenter
                      J. Fraser
                      Location
                      Queensland
                      Date and time
                      March 18, 2013, 3:18PM
                      • J Fraser there's a good chance a house brick could get elected over Gillard. At least we know they won't stuff anything up, and just as easy to get the truth out of.

                        Commenter
                        Tired Camel
                        Date and time
                        March 18, 2013, 3:15PM
                    • The Global Mail, Independent Australia, Australians for Honest Politics,boeufblogginon,NewMatilda as well as The Conversation, there are plenty of digital news sites that M.Turnbull M.P. could have mentioned.

                      Unless of course this "Comment" gets censored by one of the major media outlets in Australia

                      Commenter
                      J. Fraser
                      Location
                      Queensland
                      Date and time
                      March 18, 2013, 3:14PM
                      • M.Turnbull M.P. mentions digital news sites in the Australian parliament that are censored by News Limited in their "Comments" sections.

                        Commenter
                        J. Fraser
                        Location
                        Queensland
                        Date and time
                        March 18, 2013, 3:01PM
                        • Can't say i blame some media outlets for using a filter, censor if you will, on the phrase "Slick" in their comments sections. That reptitious phrase (or should I say Frase) saturating the comments sections on a daily basis wears a bit thin.

                          Commenter
                          Tim of Altona
                          Date and time
                          March 18, 2013, 3:19PM
                        • if its you they censor that is good news. Your tedious repetition is boring.

                          Commenter
                          billyboy
                          Date and time
                          March 18, 2013, 3:32PM
                        • What timmy has said must be "Slick" Abbott's version of censorship.

                          Or is it just the "Slick" Abbott cheer squad version.

                          Commenter
                          J. Fraser
                          Location
                          Queensland
                          Date and time
                          March 18, 2013, 3:33PM
                        • J. Fraser One in two comments on here are from you. Do you have a job, a life? Has some bitter struggle with some past conservative government ruined you, poor, poor man/woman. Do you wear a cape and mask as you flex your fingers ready for the wrath of J.Fraser to storm the keyboards, quotes at the ready, links denigrating Abbot and Newman primed to pass on? What a pity you don't have a thesaurus at hand to make your works a little more interesting, but still,its something to pass the time isn't it.

                          Commenter
                          Oh no, not you again.
                          Location
                          Brisbane
                          Date and time
                          March 18, 2013, 4:08PM
                      • "Slick" Abbott gives a News Limited speech in the Australian parliament.

                        Commenter
                        J. Fraser
                        Location
                        Queensland
                        Date and time
                        March 18, 2013, 3:00PM
                        • Your favourite fairfax doesn't want this either, so who does??? Labour and labour supporters, freedom of speech is on the line people!!!!!

                          Commenter
                          Genghis
                          Location
                          Lounge
                          Date and time
                          March 18, 2013, 3:32PM
                      • Maybe Julia is just looking for inspiration from the gallery?

                        Or counting how many Mondays there are between here and 14th September.

                        Commenter
                        SteveH.
                        Date and time
                        March 18, 2013, 2:57PM
                        • Well she has probably already worked out there are only three sitting Mondays before caretaker period starts.

                          Commenter
                          rockoyster
                          Location
                          Tasmania
                          Date and time
                          March 18, 2013, 4:07PM
                      • To quote Mr Shorten: "Labor stands up every day for people who go to work."

                        Well - 457 holders go to work every day and pay taxes. Unfortunately for them, they are not allowed to vote. So they make the perfect target and clearly Labor have no intention of standing up for them.

                        Labor may yet see a bunch of 457 voters on the lawn of parliament building a stockade and shouting "No taxation without representation!!"

                        Oh the irony!!!

                        Commenter
                        Art
                        Date and time
                        March 18, 2013, 2:56PM
                        • actually there are changes to the electoral act. If they have a TFN or a drivers licence, they will be enrolled.
                          the question is whether this is good or bad for Ms G

                          Commenter
                          S K Ared
                          Location
                          ACT
                          Date and time
                          March 18, 2013, 3:07PM
                        • You are assuming they pay tax.
                          If they return home they get their tax refunded.

                          Commenter
                          Steve
                          Date and time
                          March 18, 2013, 3:58PM
                      • Tony Abbott is out of control. He continues to use parliament to perpetrate his lies

                        Commenter
                        Rusty
                        Location
                        Narre Warren
                        Date and time
                        March 18, 2013, 2:54PM
                        • I think he just surrendered to
                          Julie Bishop,

                          wrong sided Tony.

                          Commenter
                          SteveH.
                          Date and time
                          March 18, 2013, 3:05PM
                      • A reporter told Springstein that the Treasurer took economic inspiration from his lyrics. Bruce replied that he hoped Wayne was better looking after his money than he was.

                        Unfortunately Bruce, we already know he's not very good with ours.

                        Commenter
                        SteveH.
                        Date and time
                        March 18, 2013, 2:38PM
                        • Who is Swan kidding (2:09) ? We won't know until after the election the size of the deficit, and we certainly won't believe anything that comes out of him at Budget time.

                          Commenter
                          Hacka
                          Location
                          Canberra
                          Date and time
                          March 18, 2013, 2:37PM
                          • Can someone let me know when Parliament gets to the point where one of the representatives states "They took our jobs!" South Park style.

                            Sack the lot of them I say.

                            Commenter
                            Opinion Only
                            Location
                            Melbourne
                            Date and time
                            March 18, 2013, 2:35PM
                            • Whats happened to Wayne, is the deficit too big to predict or something?

                              Hockey should have asked Fraser, on his current form he'd have at a
                              $10 Billion surplus.

                              Commenter
                              SteveH.
                              Date and time
                              March 18, 2013, 2:25PM
                              • @"SteveH."

                                Can't stand the heat in the kitchen.

                                Commenter
                                J. Fraser
                                Location
                                Queensland
                                Date and time
                                March 18, 2013, 3:02PM
                            • Great story in a regional newspapers about one of Australia's top 500 polluters changing his tune on the carbon price. "Mr Kassulke is the first to admit the tax has hit hard. However, he now also says the tax has had a positive impact on the business.
                              A dollar for dollar $6.2 million grant from the government’s clean technology food and foundries investment program has put AJ Bush well on the way to slashing emissions, with the company confident its rendering operation will eventually be removed from the ‘top 500 polluters’ list.

                              http://www.beaudeserttimes.com.au/beaudesert/215-carbon-tax-turnaround

                              Commenter
                              Well, well, well
                              Date and time
                              March 18, 2013, 2:07PM
                                • My goodness, how did this comment get printed. Something positive about Carbon Tax. Am I reading SMH?

                                  The counter arguments against carbon tax is about money. The goal of the carbon tax is to reduce emissions and move towards cleaner technology.

                                  Commenter
                                  ccb
                                  Date and time
                                  March 18, 2013, 2:59PM
                                • From the article"A dollar for dollar $6.2 million grant from the government’s clean technology food and foundries investment program ........"

                                  So in other words, he got a bucket of free money from the Government, hence his obvious happiness

                                  Commenter
                                  Carstendog
                                  Location
                                  Here
                                  Date and time
                                  March 18, 2013, 3:15PM
                              • J Fraser - Why can't you accept the fact that Prime Minister Julia Gillard is going to form the next government with a 10 seat majority.

                                It usually takes me two or three good hits of DMT to become this disconnected with reality. I am in awe Mr. Fraser.

                                Commenter
                                AllAbbott'sFault
                                Date and time
                                March 18, 2013, 2:05PM
                                • In that case your 12 year old son probably has more chance of beating Prime Minister Julia Gillard than "Slick" Abbott does.

                                  Commenter
                                  J. Fraser
                                  Location
                                  Queensland
                                  Date and time
                                  March 18, 2013, 2:03PM
                              • Couldn't find it in my Oxford dictionary so I Googled it and discovered it is a recently "coined" new word found on T-shirts on eBay: Read this one over slowly and absorb the facts that are within this definition! I love this word and believe that it will become a recognised English word. Finally, a word to describe our current political situation.
                                Ineptocracy
                                -(in-ep-toc'-ra-cy)-
                                A system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by
                                The least capable of producing, and where the members of society least
                                Likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and
                                Services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of
                                Producers

                                Commenter
                                Bruce I vote
                                Date and time
                                March 18, 2013, 2:01PM
                                • I for one hope they don't give Julia the chop, which she so richly deserves. She is LNP's marketing department isn't she ??

                                  Commenter
                                  JFL
                                  Location
                                  Sydney
                                  Date and time
                                  March 18, 2013, 1:58PM
                                  • Ahhh: Labor is creating more jobs again. How wonderful!! Now we know how that jobs spike happened. 300 jobs to police the 457 visas, so that we can have more bureaucrats playing "i spy" and waste more tax money. One must wonder how they came up with the number 300? Meanwhile (in the real world), 99.9% of 457 holders pay taxes, contribute to our economy and often go on to employ people themselves (if they stay here). Have we really reached the point where the government needs to find a minority group of people to scapegoat to divert attention from its own issues?

                                    Commenter
                                    Art
                                    Date and time
                                    March 18, 2013, 1:31PM
                                    • Art - we reached that point a while ago.

                                      Maybe the PM has made another election commitment - "there will be no unemployed union members by election time under the government i lead".

                                      Commenter
                                      Hacka
                                      Location
                                      Canberra
                                      Date and time
                                      March 18, 2013, 1:59PM
                                  • I am not impressed by the PM. My 12 year old son has more sense and responsibilty. What a shame.

                                    Commenter
                                    Frank
                                    Date and time
                                    March 18, 2013, 1:30PM
                                    • In that case your 12 year old son probably has more chance of beating Prime Minister Julia Gillard than "Slick" Abbott does.

                                      Commenter
                                      J. Fraser
                                      Location
                                      Queensland
                                      Date and time
                                      March 18, 2013, 2:03PM
                                    • J Fraser there's a good chance a house brick could get elected over Gillard. At least we know they won't stuff anything up, and just as easy to get the truth out of.

                                      Commenter
                                      Tired Camel
                                      Date and time
                                      March 18, 2013, 3:15PM
                                    • @"Tired Camel"

                                      Don't put "Slick" Abbott down any lower or the Liberal party will start looking at M.Turnbull M.P. again.

                                      Plenty of Australians wish they would.

                                      Commenter
                                      J. Fraser
                                      Location
                                      Queensland
                                      Date and time
                                      March 18, 2013, 3:35PM
                                  • (That's Labor MP Alan Griffin trotting towards her.)

                                    Trotting? It looks more like strolling.

                                    Commenter
                                    SteveH.
                                    Date and time
                                    March 18, 2013, 1:15PM
                                    • So this is where our taxes go - on middle class welfare faux sporting events. In the meantime , according to Wyalla Wipeout, we can justify giving Burma $20m because it would save on defence spending. Now I've heard it all. From now on let's give North Korea $100m to stop them sending a nuke to Perth; let's give Iran $100m so they don't nuke Christmas Island. The logic sounds like it came from Groupthink Inc at Sussex street. Or are they still at ICAC? with their apparently 'good' mining magnate mates.

                                      Commenter
                                      enough is enough
                                      Location
                                      Taxpayers La La Land
                                      Date and time
                                      March 18, 2013, 1:37PM
                                  • Rest assured J.Fraser, that we have locked away your little "Labor by a 10 seat majority " gem and will bring it out w/c 15 Sept. Ouch,it's gonna hurt!

                                    Commenter
                                    Tim of Altona
                                    Date and time
                                    March 18, 2013, 1:01PM
                                    • "Why should tv and radio news be regulated and not news print"

                                      Emma Alberici.

                                      Commenter
                                      J. Fraser
                                      Location
                                      Queensland
                                      Date and time
                                      March 18, 2013, 12:58PM
                                      • That's right J Fraser- in North Korea and Cuba all forms of media are regulated - so why not Australian print media under Labor? You are definitely onto something there.

                                        Commenter
                                        Tim of Altona
                                        Date and time
                                        March 18, 2013, 1:28PM
                                      • Tim news and opinion on TV and Radio are already regulated in the way that's proposed for print/online. The TV and Radio journos seem pretty unfettered don't they?

                                        Commenter
                                        wonk_arama
                                        Date and time
                                        March 18, 2013, 1:37PM
                                      • Little Timmy has trouble reading and comprehending .... a perfect candidate for the "Slick" Abbott cheer squad.

                                        Commenter
                                        J. Fraser
                                        Location
                                        Queensland
                                        Date and time
                                        March 18, 2013, 2:05PM
                                      • @JFRaser "Little Timmy has trouble reading and comprehending .... a perfect candidate for the "Slick" Abbott cheer squad."

                                        Interesting JFraser you bring up someone from the ABC to argue for the Government's media laws....someone unaffected by these Laws and yet someone employed by the Government.

                                        Commenter
                                        Carstendog
                                        Location
                                        Here
                                        Date and time
                                        March 18, 2013, 3:06PM
                                      • They are regulated because they are licensed by the government to use the public broadcast spectrum. Anyone can buy a printing press and print a newspaper - it doesn't use public assets. That's always been the system and remains the system in free societies.

                                        Commenter
                                        Hamish
                                        Date and time
                                        March 18, 2013, 3:17PM
                                      • @Hamish: Foxtel doesn't use public spectrum and it's regulated in the same way as free to air television. Free to air networks pay huge licence fees for the privilege of using 'public spectrum'. That of itself is not a basis to regulate what these networks do and say.

                                        Commenter
                                        Jace
                                        Date and time
                                        March 18, 2013, 3:44PM
                                      • Hamish yes the 'public spectrum' point explains *why* there is regulation on TV and Radio news and opinion but my point was having the ACAM in the mix doesn't seem to inhibiting those Journos.

                                        Commenter
                                        wonk_arama
                                        Date and time
                                        March 18, 2013, 3:51PM
                                      • Jace, you're quite right, but Foxtel still need a government licence to operate. Not really sure why that is - seems unfair on Foxtel. However, I don't necessarily disagree with your point. I don't think TV or radio networks should really be regulated either.

                                        Wonk_arama, I don't really get your point. Are you saying newspapers should be regulated simply for the sake of it...

                                        Commenter
                                        Hamish
                                        Date and time
                                        March 18, 2013, 4:12PM
                                      • Hamish no not for the sake of it, in fact the your point about non regulation of TV/Radio is fair one. What I was originally responding to was the Nth Koreaesque hyperbole by pointing out that TV/Radio journos are already under the sort of oversight being proposed but that it doesn't seem to be effecting them in the way people are claiming Print/Online journos will be.

                                        Commenter
                                        wonk_arama
                                        Date and time
                                        March 18, 2013, 4:52PM
                                    • The Pulse 11:24am

                                      Nice photo of Prime Minister Julia Gillard.

                                      All it took was a pair of glasses.

                                      With "Slick" Abbott ......... the makeover continues unabated.

                                      Commenter
                                      J. Fraser
                                      Location
                                      Queensland
                                      Date and time
                                      March 18, 2013, 12:53PM
                                      • Come 15th September, I sincerely hope that you will desist with the not-so-smart nicknames you keep applying to Tony Abbott and the Coalition. I also hope you will accept the decision of the Australian people.

                                        Commenter
                                        Tim [unfortunately not from Altona]
                                        Date and time
                                        March 18, 2013, 1:15PM
                                      • @JFraser"Nice photo of Prime Minister Julia Gillard. All it took was a pair of glasses. With "Slick" Abbott ......... the makeover continues unabated."

                                        The problem with Gillard is that makeover or not, we still know it is her. The only guessing game we have with her is "what we she bungle today?"

                                        Commenter
                                        Carstendog
                                        Location
                                        Here
                                        Date and time
                                        March 18, 2013, 1:21PM
                                      • Agreed it is a good photo. McTernan should have got her down to Specsavers earlier.

                                        Commenter
                                        Tim of Altona
                                        Date and time
                                        March 18, 2013, 1:31PM
                                      • Yeah, she almost looks "warm" and "friendly" there.
                                        Too little too late!

                                        Commenter
                                        dRod
                                        Location
                                        Sydney
                                        Date and time
                                        March 18, 2013, 2:00PM
                                    • Closer ties with Myanmar - is that because Gillard sees our future media laws as a being aligned with theirs ?

                                      Or perhaps they'll get most-favoured nation status for 457 approvals.

                                      Commenter
                                      Hacka
                                      Location
                                      Canberra
                                      Date and time
                                      March 18, 2013, 12:51PM
                                      • Can someone advise where Wayne 'negative equity' Swann is? Wayne's World III is apparently ready to shoot with 'The Boss' doing the soundtrack called 'Now you see, now you don't' with an extended version renamed ' Can I have some more porridge please sir'

                                        Commenter
                                        enough is enough
                                        Location
                                        Labor party La La Land
                                        Date and time
                                        March 18, 2013, 12:50PM
                                        • There's a medicine company with the same name as the leader of the opposition. Their slogan is "Abbott - A promise for life". Imagine that - a promise of Abbott for life? I'll leave that thought with you. No vitriol please, just a light hearted look at coincidence.

                                          Commenter
                                          JS
                                          Date and time
                                          March 18, 2013, 12:49PM
                                          • J. Fraser, "a 10 seat majority" for Labor, thanks for the laugh.
                                            In our Safe Labor seat a Minister is going to be tossed out.

                                            Commenter
                                            thepres
                                            Location
                                            Safe Labor Seat
                                            Date and time
                                            March 18, 2013, 12:43PM
                                            • Yes I wouldn't be surprised if somebody
                                              reposted that prediction at a later date.

                                              Might prove very amusing.

                                              Commenter
                                              SteveH.
                                              Date and time
                                              March 18, 2013, 1:12PM
                                          • Labor is really doubling down on its anti-457 visa gamble, based on that announcement by Brendan O'Connor. But it hasn't seemed to pay off for them so far, aside from gaining the endorsement of some union trogolodytes and Pauline 'swamped by Asians' Hanson.

                                            Maybe those mummy bloggers Julia is always having a chinwag with like the idea or something?

                                            Commenter
                                            AdamC
                                            Location
                                            Melbourne
                                            Date and time
                                            March 18, 2013, 12:39PM
                                            • She may not "flinch" but she may well be "pushed".

                                              Commenter
                                              Catherine
                                              Date and time
                                              March 18, 2013, 12:38PM
                                              • This Government throws around money like drunken sailors. Another $20 million donated. They have ripped money out of just about everything but can donate $20 million for the PR stunt. Bring on the election.

                                                Commenter
                                                Paul
                                                Date and time
                                                March 18, 2013, 12:25PM
                                                • The lack of democracy in Burma over the past 20 years has cost this country and the region and the Burmese people much more than $20 million dollars. There was always a huge risk that Burma could become a rogue state as bad as North Korea (also supported by China for geopolitical reasons) if we did not respond appropriately to their movement towards democracy - and that is a huge cost on defence budgets.

                                                  This money is well-directed. A more democratic Burma will, hopefully generate less refugees as well. I can't imagine even Julie Bishop opposing it.

                                                  Commenter
                                                  Whyalla Wipeout
                                                  Date and time
                                                  March 18, 2013, 12:49PM
                                              • Visa crisis solved, Julia's put Inspector Gadget on the case.

                                                Whats next on the agenda?

                                                Commenter
                                                SteveH.
                                                Date and time
                                                March 18, 2013, 12:17PM
                                                • Agree totally with you Whyalla - excellent comments and so very.true. I have always belived that Gilards lack of popularity is due to the fact that she is not married and chosen to be child free.(Like me) She caucus support back in 2010 to dump Rudd so I cannot see how she can be labelled a backstabber! Happened in NZ when our first female PM Shipley got caucus suport to dump Mr Bolger - as a result Bolger did not even try to challenge the decision - went away with dignity and respect unlike Rudd who seems determined to get the top job.

                                                  Commenter
                                                  Sue
                                                  Location
                                                  New Zealand
                                                  Date and time
                                                  March 18, 2013, 12:14PM
                                                  • @Sue". I have always belived that Gilards lack of popularity is due to the fact that she is not married and chosen to be child free"

                                                    Nah, she is unpopular because she is hopeless.....couldn't careless what her marital status is, just want a PM who is competent and trustworthy and has the support of their team.

                                                    Commenter
                                                    Carstendog
                                                    Location
                                                    Here
                                                    Date and time
                                                    March 18, 2013, 1:30PM
                                                • Whyalla Wipeout, Not everyone makes typos, some of us use spell check.
                                                  Why can't you accept the fact that Labor are going to get decimated in September, and an enquiry into the union movements is started.
                                                  The Independents are in trouble too, it serves them right for listening to Gillard.

                                                  Commenter
                                                  thepres
                                                  Location
                                                  Safe Labor Seat
                                                  Date and time
                                                  March 18, 2013, 11:42AM
                                                  • Why can't you accept the fact that Prime Minister Julia Gillard is going to form the next government with a 10 seat majority.

                                                    Commenter
                                                    J. Fraser
                                                    Location
                                                    Queensland
                                                    Date and time
                                                    March 18, 2013, 12:27PM
                                                  • I use spellcheck too. It does not detract from my point about the comment.

                                                    As for your predictions of a Labor loss. Things are certainly pointing that way. But this blog is still and opportunity to post comments on policy and issues. If you want to use it for a bit of empty tribal triumphalism, that is a matter for the moderators, not me. But I'm not going to play your meaningless and unproductive game.

                                                    I see the current government as a great government doing great things for Australia now and into the future, and I'm not going to be bullied from saying so by you citing crowd numbers. History is full of the crowd supporting the wrong side of history.

                                                    Commenter
                                                    Whyalla Wipeout
                                                    Date and time
                                                    March 18, 2013, 12:30PM
                                                  • Because he doesn't believe in the
                                                    Tooth Fairy or Santa Claus?

                                                    Commenter
                                                    SteveH.
                                                    Date and time
                                                    March 18, 2013, 12:41PM
                                                  • @ Fraser. Can you advise, in all your wisdom, which ten seats will be the winning margin for Truthful Julia? and which seats she will retain? pleaseeeeee, we can't wait till September to find out.

                                                    Commenter
                                                    enough is enough
                                                    Location
                                                    Qld La La Land
                                                    Date and time
                                                    March 18, 2013, 12:43PM
                                                  • Good to see Slicky is back today. His kind of mindless optimism is so wonderfully entertaining. Not.

                                                    10 seat majority eh? You seem to have caught the ALP's disease, just say something (anything) enough and the rusted ons will believe it like Gospell.

                                                    Reality will be different of course. The way things are going, the ALP lower house MPs will all be able to catch an Airport Shuttle Hi-Ace to the airport from September onwards...

                                                    Commenter
                                                    Alternate View
                                                    Location
                                                    ALP Dreamland
                                                    Date and time
                                                    March 18, 2013, 4:34PM
                                                • Part A of the Australian people's cunning plan to bring back democracy is to have Rudd take back the labor leadership. Part B is for the polls to then swing back in labors favor so radically that we get the contest almost every Australian I meet wants. Of course that is Rudd versus Turnbull. Long odds today, but perhaps not tomorrow?

                                                  Commenter
                                                  Mark
                                                  Location
                                                  Sydney
                                                  Date and time
                                                  March 18, 2013, 11:39AM
                                                  • Sorry, but that's just not going to happen.

                                                    If K Rudd did even accept the poisoned chalice, TA would take him apart just like he did last time - and he has SO much more ammunition now!

                                                    And even being practical about it - what can KR offer as "new" to change or undo all the damage done in the last 21/2 years? Adopt coalition policiies again? (as he did in 2007)

                                                    No, the problem for the ALP is really that Julia Gillard has now firmly painted them into the Unions' dominated corner and any about face prior to the election would not only be seen as a another "government who had lost it's way (again)" but also stand a good chance of losing Union election funding to the Greens.

                                                    The most likely outcome really now is that the ALP will sail onwards to the election (with whoever happens to be leading them) and face defeat in the same way that the NSW and QLD state goverments did.

                                                    Commenter
                                                    Alternate View
                                                    Location
                                                    also not from Altona
                                                    Date and time
                                                    March 18, 2013, 12:21PM
                                                • Just another quick comment, what is the Gillard preoccupation with staged photos? I have seen it first hand overseas, and the image taken in Melbourne on this page comes across in a similar light? Possibly covering up for a lack of real substance?

                                                  Commenter
                                                  Jock
                                                  Location
                                                  Overseas
                                                  Date and time
                                                  March 18, 2013, 11:35AM
                                                  • And the other one in speedos doesn't ? Oh its ok for him because he's in oppostition.How petty Jocko Vote 1 Labor

                                                    Commenter
                                                    Tibstar
                                                    Location
                                                    Warringah
                                                    Date and time
                                                    March 18, 2013, 12:32PM
                                                  • It could the same as the Opposition's preoccupation since 2010 with staged fluoro-vest coloured soundbites for the evening news. But then, as always, the media mindlessly accepts the Coalition's number one rule: "look over there".

                                                    After all, as the silverbacks among the Coalition supporters beat their chests triumphantly in anticipation, Abbott is only going to be the Prime Minister for the next three years - so why should anyone pay attention to what the next Government is going to do?

                                                    Commenter
                                                    Whyalla Wipeout
                                                    Date and time
                                                    March 18, 2013, 12:33PM
                                                  • na jock, she isn't wearing high visability vests and playing around in trucks/tanks anything macho.

                                                    She will leave all the lack of substance things to Tony Abbott. Unfortunatley, lack of substance also wins votes.

                                                    Commenter
                                                    Andrew
                                                    Location
                                                    Sydney
                                                    Date and time
                                                    March 18, 2013, 12:46PM
                                                  • Not sure - perhaps it derives from the same predeliction Tony Abbott has for his photo-ops in which he dons a day-glow vest and hard hat (or hair net) and sprouts nonsense about the electricity bill he's just been handed, but of which he has no ability to read or understand.

                                                    Commenter
                                                    gary
                                                    Location
                                                    Sydney
                                                    Date and time
                                                    March 18, 2013, 12:54PM
                                                • Must admit that I am somewhat removed from the rough and tumble of Australian politics on a day-to-day basis. However, I have met every PM since Keating on their junkets through Asia. My personal perspective is that Rudd was the most accomplished on the international stage, while Julia was the most pathetic. I don't what I expected before meeting her, but she came across as totally clueless about the world beyond Australia's borders. So what needs to be done, obviously the polls indicate that Gillard is bordering on political poison at home. If she really does have the interests of the ALP and the electorate at heart, she needs to go. The new PM does not need to be Rudd, and it doesn't have to be Abbot either. Surely there are other options available?

                                                  Commenter
                                                  Jock
                                                  Location
                                                  Overseas
                                                  Date and time
                                                  March 18, 2013, 11:32AM
                                                  • The photos of Julia are very good! I like the glasses - very professional and business like. Good luck Julia!

                                                    Commenter
                                                    Hound Dog
                                                    Location
                                                    New Zealand
                                                    Date and time
                                                    March 18, 2013, 11:17AM
                                                    • hmmm....you would have to ton for punishment.

                                                      Commenter
                                                      t
                                                      Date and time
                                                      March 18, 2013, 11:32AM
                                                  • Part A of the Australian people's cunning plan to bring back democracy is to have Rudd take back the labor leadership. Part B is for the polls to then swing back in labors favor so radically that we get the contest almost every Australian I meet wants. Of course that is Rudd versus Turnbull. Long odds today, but perhaps not tomorrow?

                                                    Commenter
                                                    Mark
                                                    Location
                                                    Sydney
                                                    Date and time
                                                    March 18, 2013, 11:16AM
                                                    • Wouldn't it be easier if Julia called up the new Chinese boss and just asked him to send the money over the border rather than borrow it via Treasury from the same source? it would be quicker wouldn't it? aren't Julia's IOUs good any longer?

                                                      Commenter
                                                      enough is enough
                                                      Location
                                                      Borrow more money
                                                      Date and time
                                                      March 18, 2013, 11:03AM
                                                        • In fact a lot of Government borrowing is from Australians. And compared to just about everyone else in the developed world our borrowing is minuscule. As it was, the borrowing was a worthwhile investment in saving the jobs of tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of Australians during the GFC, as well as avoiding the huge cost of dislocation. Bear in mind that most of the borrowing was undertaken to meet the obligations of the government to pay social security, medicare, defence commitments, etc, when our tax receipts tanked.

                                                          But facts and the right wing are strangers, even if sneers and misplaced sarcasm are like mother's milk to them.

                                                          Commenter
                                                          Whyalla Wipeout
                                                          Date and time
                                                          March 18, 2013, 11:24AM
                                                      • Steve, "He'll rip apart all the good work of Gillard: Carbon Price, Eductaion" it is a pity Gillard did not include spelling in her good work.

                                                        Commenter
                                                        thepres
                                                        Location
                                                        Safe Labor seat
                                                        Date and time
                                                        March 18, 2013, 10:58AM
                                                        • Everyone makes typos when they post these comments. I see them all the time and I make them myself. I never comment on them because it is irrelevant. I suspect that most posters of all ilk do not make such comments. It is a sad indictment of those who do that they have nothing more intelligent to say.

                                                          Commenter
                                                          Whyalla Wipeout
                                                          Date and time
                                                          March 18, 2013, 11:20AM
                                                      • The Pulse 10:31am

                                                        Peta Credlin at the head of "The Coalition Shadow Cabinet" table.

                                                        ha ha ha ...... a "faceless woman".

                                                        Commenter
                                                        J. Fraser
                                                        Location
                                                        Queensland
                                                        Date and time
                                                        March 18, 2013, 10:50AM
                                                        • Funny, I see Credlin as being 'featured' in the photo.

                                                          Commenter
                                                          $keptic
                                                          Location
                                                          Melbourne
                                                          Date and time
                                                          March 18, 2013, 11:18AM
                                                        • And the punchline is...?

                                                          Commenter
                                                          Tim [unfortunately not from Altona]
                                                          Location
                                                          Melbourne
                                                          Date and time
                                                          March 18, 2013, 11:21AM
                                                        • Funny that. The people who the Liberals label as 'faceless men' are perpetually in the press, including their photos - but it does not stop the dishonest misrepresentation of them as being 'faceless men'.

                                                          Still, 'big lie' slogans are the only the only commodity that the Liberals have to sell to the Australian people but, my word, they do it well.

                                                          Commenter
                                                          Whyalla Wipeout
                                                          Date and time
                                                          March 18, 2013, 11:28AM
                                                        • @ Whyalla - the ALP and their supporters have plenty of insults and base political descriptions for the Coalition, but no credibility on the things that really matter. This is why you and your fellow travellers focus on such an otherwise unremarkable picture. Peta Credlin has more talent, loyalty and integrity than the entire Government frontbench put together. The "big lies" are the ones where the ALP promise so much but don't say how they're going to fund them - like Julia's little promise binge in Sydney the other week...

                                                          Commenter
                                                          Tim [unfortunately not from Altona]
                                                          Location
                                                          Melbourne
                                                          Date and time
                                                          March 18, 2013, 11:59AM
                                                      • Not sure why Abbott would preserve his current frontbench in aspic if the Coalition wins office. They are not all great performers and there is clearly a need for some auccession planning in the senior ranks.

                                                        Commenter
                                                        AdamC
                                                        Location
                                                        Melbourne
                                                        Date and time
                                                        March 18, 2013, 10:48AM
                                                        • Libs have no one else in their party to step up. We are looking at the best of the worst

                                                          Commenter
                                                          ccb
                                                          Date and time
                                                          March 18, 2013, 12:52PM
                                                        • "Libs have no one else in their party to step up. We are looking at the best of the worst"

                                                          Your opinion, obviously, based on the Nielsen poll this morning....

                                                          Commenter
                                                          Carstendog
                                                          Location
                                                          Here
                                                          Date and time
                                                          March 18, 2013, 3:08PM
                                                      • Oh the arrogance of the woman.Ms Gillard does not inspire confidence.
                                                        Sad to see the demise of a talented person.

                                                        Commenter
                                                        ruthbetty
                                                        Date and time
                                                        March 18, 2013, 10:45AM
                                                        • You wouldn't believe it. The Mrs has just booked a 2 week family hol starting....13 Sept. So unless Mr Rudd calls an earlier poll, looks like I'll miss the joys of election night - the Swing-o-meter, the nail bites, the what-ifs, who'll make that early morning speech with a quivering lip saying that they thanks their spouse for all the support and look forward to spending more time with the family..... . Oh, the loss.

                                                          Commenter
                                                          JS
                                                          Date and time
                                                          March 18, 2013, 10:22AM
                                                          • I am actually forward to looking at Bandt, Oakeshott and Windsor concede.....I mean who really cares about the ALP at the moment

                                                            Commenter
                                                            Carstendog
                                                            Location
                                                            Here
                                                            Date and time
                                                            March 18, 2013, 10:37AM
                                                          • I can't wait to see the removalist truck driving up the Lodge's driveway. I wonder if the 'worker' will be on work visas? and carrying their union cards.

                                                            Commenter
                                                            enough is enough
                                                            Location
                                                            On the raod again
                                                            Date and time
                                                            March 18, 2013, 11:01AM
                                                        • It is hard to believe that she is so selfish. well not really. Selfishness contributes to her delusions. History will judge her as the most incompetet, divisive and dishonest PM ever. What a proud record.

                                                          Commenter
                                                          Denny
                                                          Date and time
                                                          March 18, 2013, 10:22AM
                                                          • In her defence, I think delusion drives a lot of PMs

                                                            Commenter
                                                            Carstendog
                                                            Location
                                                            Here
                                                            Date and time
                                                            March 18, 2013, 10:36AM
                                                          • History will judge Julia Gillard as one of the greatest Prime MInisters ever in the way she has driven momentum for Australia's future - recognising the need for action on climate change, building a new infrastructure for the commerce of the 21st century, saving countless numbers of jobs during the uncertainty of the Global Financial crisis (every country that embraced Hoover-like austerity is in deep crisis now), reworking education and recognising the need to bring our disabled out of the shadows so that they contribute fully to our society and to release their carers so that they too can contribute more fully to society.

                                                            People who cannot see the present through the miasma of lies and misrepresentations of Abbott and his bosses can hardly claim to see the future with any accuracy.

                                                            Commenter
                                                            Whyalla Wipeout
                                                            Date and time
                                                            March 18, 2013, 11:17AM
                                                          • @WW: You truly are an impressively loyal supporter of the ALP.

                                                            Unfortunately, even without my biased glasses on, I can see that your vision for history's view on the performace of this Government will not be as you say.

                                                            Commenter
                                                            Alternate View
                                                            Location
                                                            Rooty Hill
                                                            Date and time
                                                            March 18, 2013, 11:43AM
                                                          • @ Whyalla - spoken like a blind true believer. Let's see: only bringing in the carbon tax as the price of a deal with the Greens and independents. The Pink Batts scheme and ensuing fiasco. With her former good buddy Rudd, turning a $22 billion surplus into a $160 billion debt in the space of 5 years - something that the next generations will be saddled with. An ill-designed, unnecessary mining tax that has so far brought in less than 10% of what was forecast by Treasury. The largest ever Commonwealth debt in Australia's history. The lowest defence spending as a percentage of GDP since before World War 2. A lot of infrastructure promises, but a significant number yet to be started, completed and/or even funded. A promise - no action - for as yet unfunded changes to the education system, but we do have nice websites giving stats on schools and not a lot else. A whole stack of over-priced, singe-purpose school halls, where the schools actually needed other types of buildings. Electricity bills sky-rocketing. As for the NDIS, that is a bi-partisan reform, long overdue, but not solely due to the ALP. Mitch Fifield has been advocating this for at least 5 years. The only question for NDIS is, how to pay for it? The only lies and misrepresentations at the moment are the ones we are hearing and have heard from the ALP since 2007.

                                                            Commenter
                                                            Tim [unfortunately not from Altona]
                                                            Location
                                                            Melbourne
                                                            Date and time
                                                            March 18, 2013, 11:50AM
                                                          • Whyalla - a couple of points:

                                                            1. Rudd was responsible for the GFC response, but a year 1 economic student knows you that you pump prime an economy under threat of recession.

                                                            2. What has Gillard actually delivered in her 2 1/2 years ?

                                                            3. Looks like you can predict the future accurately. Can you tell us this weeks Lotto numbers ?

                                                            Commenter
                                                            Hacka
                                                            Location
                                                            Canberra
                                                            Date and time
                                                            March 18, 2013, 11:57AM
                                                          • Here's probably how history will most likely remember this PM:
                                                            1. Knifed Mr Rudd and took his credit for GFC 'control'
                                                            2. Let Pauline Hanson re-surface
                                                            3. Threw away true ALP values on immigration and working visas
                                                            4. Carbon tax
                                                            5. Reneged on a sure promise to deliver the country a budget surplus.
                                                            6. Confessed to not being comfortable on the foreign stage
                                                            7. Took a Howard-like divisive approach to making Aust a less tolearnt country
                                                            8. Agreed to pokies-reform and a new hospital in Tas for the sake of forming govn.

                                                            Commenter
                                                            Maxx
                                                            Date and time
                                                            March 18, 2013, 12:20PM
                                                          • Whyalla Wipeout. The victors always write the history.

                                                            Commenter
                                                            Isenz
                                                            Date and time
                                                            March 18, 2013, 3:21PM
                                                        • Let's be clear on this much...Australian voters are grateful to Gillard in one sense only...she allowed them enough time to put their baseball bats on lay-by. September 14th is going to be politically ugly for this inept federal failure posing as a government .

                                                          Commenter
                                                          The Galah from Hervey Bay
                                                          Date and time
                                                          March 18, 2013, 10:00AM
                                                          • It puzzles me how 44% of the '2-party-preferred' population still think labour are worthy of a vote, and that the remaining percentage think liberal can do a better job.
                                                            Does nobody in 2-party-preferred land know there are other parties they can vote for?

                                                            Commenter
                                                            Andy
                                                            Location
                                                            regional NSW
                                                            Date and time
                                                            March 18, 2013, 9:54AM
                                                            • Blame that entirely on the pollsters, not the voters. Ever notice how polls are worded on Fairfax, leaving you no valid option.
                                                              it's all part of their strategy, coercion.

                                                              Commenter
                                                              A country gal
                                                              Date and time
                                                              March 18, 2013, 11:12AM
                                                            • Perfectly illustrated in the smh comments section. Criticise the LNP, you are a communist, criticise the ALP, you are a conservative bigot. Blinkers on everyone!

                                                              Commenter
                                                              AllAbbott'sFault
                                                              Date and time
                                                              March 18, 2013, 11:20AM
                                                            • Look to the Whyalla Frasers of the comments section and you will have your answer. That being said, without some sort of alternative view we'd be under a dictatorship. So as much as they look incredibly one-sided and blind to Labor's terrible governing, they are important in providing that "other side" of the argument. Don't ever forget that.

                                                              Commenter
                                                              shiyoganai
                                                              Date and time
                                                              March 18, 2013, 12:46PM
                                                          • I don’t know if the ALP will try and remove Gillard. What I do know, is that for the last 2 years, the media have constantly written that this was eminent..

                                                            If Gillard lasts until the election .. will all the "journalists" resign for poor job performance? They will have spent 3 years writing crap.

                                                            Commenter
                                                            Steve
                                                            Location
                                                            Stephen
                                                            Date and time
                                                            March 18, 2013, 9:47AM
                                                            • Steve - will you stop posting once Truthful Julia gets the chop?

                                                              Commenter
                                                              enough is enough
                                                              Location
                                                              Labor party La La Land
                                                              Date and time
                                                              March 18, 2013, 9:58AM
                                                            • @enough is enough -there is as much chance of that as J.Fraser giving it away for the next 9+ years of Coalition Govt. He already has his "this poisonous Abbott government" mantra set to go.

                                                              Commenter
                                                              Tim of Altona
                                                              Date and time
                                                              March 18, 2013, 10:13AM
                                                            • enough is enough, should Julia get the chop the events afterwards will be so pittiful that the media will have a field day with yet another disaster.

                                                              Commenter
                                                              ccb
                                                              Date and time
                                                              March 18, 2013, 10:15AM
                                                            • Ah, the best act of the drama is yet to come! Nielson poll today almost ensures that a leadership spill of some kind will happen this week.

                                                              But the plot to the play wll have a dramatic twist - when Julia refuses to "step down" and a ballott is called, K Rudd will NOT stand... Watch the fur fly then!

                                                              Commenter
                                                              Alternate View
                                                              Location
                                                              Rooty Hill
                                                              Date and time
                                                              March 18, 2013, 11:40AM
                                                          • A lot of Australians would think that Prime Minister Julia Gillard said she would not flinch in the face of constant media speculation.

                                                            "Dead woman walking" was one of those media headline speculators last year.

                                                            Commenter
                                                            J. Fraser
                                                            Location
                                                            Queensland
                                                            Date and time
                                                            March 18, 2013, 9:38AM
                                                            • @JFraser, I don't think the Public much care who is the ALP PM at the election date, they just want to vote.....

                                                              Commenter
                                                              Carstendog
                                                              Location
                                                              Here
                                                              Date and time
                                                              March 18, 2013, 10:34AM
                                                          • I thought you were talking about Simon O'Dwyer's photo?

                                                            Commenter
                                                            enough is enough
                                                            Location
                                                            Labor party La La Land
                                                            Date and time
                                                            March 18, 2013, 9:35AM
                                                            • Luv the photo of Julia with the clock tower, tick, tick, tick.

                                                              Only six more months to go Orstraylia.

                                                              Maybe.

                                                              Commenter
                                                              SteveH.
                                                              Date and time
                                                              March 18, 2013, 9:34AM
                                                              • You're probably right.

                                                                6 Months and then the bomb goes off, we will be stuck with Abbott and Co.

                                                                He'll rip apart all the good work of Gillard: Carbon Price, Eductaion Reform, Tax reform, NBN - all GONE

                                                                Commenter
                                                                Steve
                                                                Location
                                                                Sydney
                                                                Date and time
                                                                March 18, 2013, 9:49AM
                                                              • Yep she looks pretty pleased with herself.

                                                                Given she won't "flinch", presumably this is code for that she'd prefer to captain the Labor ship down, rather than giving it a chance for sailing on, albeit with a much trimmer and smarter crew.

                                                                Commenter
                                                                Hacka
                                                                Location
                                                                Canberra
                                                                Date and time
                                                                March 18, 2013, 9:58AM
                                                              • "He'll rip apart all the good work of Gillard: Carbon Price, Eductaion Reform, Tax reform, NBN - all GONE"

                                                                What tax reform? You mean the Carbon tax we were promised would not happen , or the MRRT that we were promised would raise money? What Good work?

                                                                Commenter
                                                                Carstendog
                                                                Location
                                                                Here
                                                                Date and time
                                                                March 18, 2013, 10:32AM
                                                              • Steve if there was a genuine prospect of Education Reform, I might be concerned. But I'm less than convinced that Gronski is a genuine reform, its seems to be all about funding models.

                                                                Personally I can't see the point of simply allocating more resources without a defined plan where we will know exactly what the intended result will be, how it will be achieved and when it will be achieved.

                                                                Commenter
                                                                SteveH.
                                                                Date and time
                                                                March 18, 2013, 10:45AM
                                                              • Wow, a Joe McCarthy chorus. Strange that there is no substance in the combined comments of SteveH, Carstendog and Hacka - only spite.

                                                                I am convinced that the right is intellectually challenged by policy. It is too much to cope with - so they are reduced to a 100% diet of slogans and snide remarks - sad destination for the country if the polls turn out to be correct.

                                                                Commenter
                                                                Whyalla Wipeout
                                                                Date and time
                                                                March 18, 2013, 11:11AM
                                                              • Whyalla, what policy would that be? Botched tax 'reform', education and disability thought bubbles with no funding? Anti-immigration dog-whistling isn't policy you know...

                                                                Commenter
                                                                Hamish
                                                                Date and time
                                                                March 18, 2013, 11:54AM
                                                              • @ Whyalla - like the mantras, spite and slogans you're coming up with? Like the rubbish, childish tweets from Steve Gibbons and his mates? The left (both Greens and ALP) in this country are economically challenged - they think they can just spend, spend, spend without any thought to what is left to pay. Less than 6 months to go before the polls do turn out to be correct, and we can get this country back on track before it's too late.

                                                                Commenter
                                                                Tim [unfortunately not from Altona]
                                                                Location
                                                                Melbourne
                                                                Date and time
                                                                March 18, 2013, 12:06PM
                                                              • Hamish, I don't see the tax changes as 'botched'. Perhaps you might like to spell out the specifics of the claim, rather than leave it in the air. Mind you, if Abbott can make airy, superficial and meaningless claims, why can't his lackeys?

                                                                As for thought bubbles, a thought bubble is 'dams across Australia' and 'economic zones', with absolutely no substance.

                                                                There is no comparison with the comprehensive Gonski review of education and the comprehensive response to that policy by the Government (as opposed the Opposition's more money for everyone, but really only the private schools).

                                                                There is also no comparison with the NDIS, where the trial sites are already funded and ready to go - with immediate benefits for many disabled people and their carers who live at the trial sites.

                                                                As for Tim, if spite and nastiness is all you can come up with, you should get a job on Abbott's staff. They might need someone on the reserves bench.

                                                                Commenter
                                                                Whyalla Wipeout
                                                                Date and time
                                                                March 18, 2013, 12:59PM
                                                              • @ Whyalla - I haven't been the one using terms like "big lie", "snide remarks", "spite", "Joe McCarthy chorus", "miasma of lies and misprepresentations", "meaningless and unproductive games". I've been answering you point for point. Thanks for the suggestion, but I've already got a decent job. But if you're not already an ALP staffer, maybe you could squeeze your way in for a gig after the next election, although I suspect there will be plenty of applicants for not as many vacancies. They're going to need blind loyalty and enthusiasm to sustain them through the next few years of Oppposition.

                                                                Commenter
                                                                Tim [unfortunately not from Altona]
                                                                Date and time
                                                                March 18, 2013, 1:32PM
                                                              • @WW" I am convinced that the right is intellectually challenged by policy. It is too much to cope with - so they are reduced to a 100% diet of slogans and snide remarks - sad destination for the country if the polls turn out to be correct."

                                                                On the bright side, the public pay as much attention to you as they the PM, Whyalla Wipeout

                                                                Commenter
                                                                Carstendog
                                                                Location
                                                                Here
                                                                Date and time
                                                                March 18, 2013, 2:06PM
                                                              • Whyalla, the Gonski report may have been comprehensive, but the policy response certainly isn't. The NDIS is a classic Labor 'never-never' promise. Just won't happen, at least not under a Gillard ALP government. I would think the Mining Tax has been botched, unless your definition of success is to make everyone dislike you and then not generate any revenue.

                                                                Commenter
                                                                Hamish
                                                                Date and time
                                                                March 18, 2013, 2:43PM
                                                            • Caption for Andrew Meares 9.07am photo -

                                                              "Another Labor balls up!"

                                                              Commenter
                                                              Tim of Altona
                                                              Date and time
                                                              March 18, 2013, 9:23AM
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