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20 Oct, 2008 07:00 AM
The ACT could provide Australia's first Greens minister after Labor and the Liberals said nothing was off the table in negotiations to form the next territory government.

A resolution is still some time away, though. The Greens are vowing to take their time up to two weeks deciding who they will support as the ACT's chief minister.

Negotiations between the parties will begin as early as tomorrow. However, they could be delayed by the fact the three new Greens MLAs are yet to identify a leader.

Labor and the Liberals are likely to have seven seats each in the next Assembly, although there is a chance the Greens could steal a second seat in Molonglo, at the expense of the Liberals.

Labor leader Jon Stanhope is maintaining that he has a clear mandate to remain chief minister. The latest count had Labor more than six percentage points clear of the Liberals last night, at 37.5 per cent to 31.3per cent in the territory-wide vote.

''The Labor Party has achieved a significant vote and I believe in the context of Hare-Clark ... there is a clear precedent and mandate to take government and govern for four more years,'' Mr Stanhope said yesterday.

Greens Molonglo MLA-elect Shane Rattenbury indicated the party did not necessarily share that view.

''That's obviously Jon's interpretation and he is entitled to it,'' he said.

''We have said right along that it is going to come down to the policy outcomes. We have got four years to deliver for Canberra.

''We want to sit down and have that conversation and say the Greens have put out a bunch of policies, both parties have put out a bunch of policies, what can we find to go forward?''

Greens Ginninderra MLA-elect Meredith Hunter said policy priorities included public transport, climate change, health, education and community consultation.

The last two are set to be combined in a review of the Stanhope Government's school closures.

Ms Hunter would not say whether the Greens were seeking a ministry, saying only, ''We will need to think very, very carefully around a whole range of things and what we are going to go in and talk about.

''We are not going to be rushed, we are not going to be pressured into making a decision early.''

Although Mr Stanhope has not ruled out agreeing to bring a Greens MLA into his cabinet, he does not think it fits with the Westminster system of government he holds dear.

''I think everything's on the table. But we haven't had a first conversation yet. It's not a model of government that strikes a chord in my heart,'' he said.

Liberals leader Zed Seselja whose party made Independent MLA Michael Moore health minister has also left open the possibility of a Greens minister.

Greens Brindabella MLA-elect Amanda Bresnan said the party's three new Members would all meet the major parties for negotiations that would begin in the next day or two. Those negotiations are likely to take a long time.

Mr Rattenbury said it would be a week before the count was finished and the final make-up of the Assembly was certain. The Greens then had another week before the Assembly sat to choose a chief minister.

Mr Stanhope remains the front runner, and said yesterday he would be surprised if a party that campaigned on community consultation ignored the community's views through the ballot box.

He did concede there was a ''level of dissatisfaction and disquiet'' with himself and his party, ''and we need to continue to work our way through that''.

Mr Seselja is not conceding defeat and denied Mr Stanhope had a mandate to remain in power.

''It's a pretty weak argument, I think. We'll have a situation where there's seven Liberals and seven Labor representatives in the Assembly and three Greens.

''That's not a mandate, that's a tight parliament.''.

He said he was looking forward to meeting the new cross bench and discussing his green credentials.

''I think it is important for the Greens to show that they can't be taken for granted by the Labor Party. We've heard from Jon Stanhope, we've heard from Katy Gallagher last night that they simply expect the Greens to fall into line,'' he said.

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Isn't it funny how Stanhope / Labor said if you voted for the Greens you will end up with a Liberal Government! Now that the polls have resulted in a hung assembly he calls them friends! Typical of Stanhopeless! Canberra voted for change, a 9% swing against Labor and 2% away from libs. Its now time for change, give the Libs a go for 4 years and surely they can't be as bad as the past 8 years. If they are then vote them out next election!
Posted by Ben, 20/10/2008 11:24:46 PM
There has not, to my knowledge, been any suggestion that the GREENS form a government in coalition with the elected members of their choice. It does not need to be on party lines, just the best person for the job! The greens could act like a chairman, a referee, like the steering wheel. I think that there may be merit in this idea, sorry Jon, sorry Zed, neither of you have the backing of the electorate, NEITHER do the greens, and what about the other 15 or 16 % that are not represented at all! there are more of them than greens.
Posted by watcher, 20/10/2008 11:14:24 PM
In response to William Hurst: average mum's and dad's who speed and run red lights deserve every fine they get. They have no right to risk the lives of anybody's children with their irresponsible and dangerous driving. That was one of Stanhope's strong points, punishing ridiculous driving.
Posted by Murray, 20/10/2008 7:01:24 PM
I would like to comment on William Hurst posting. He comments on the misuse of the 122 police offices 'screwing the average mums and dad on their way to and from work – and don't forget the school zones - mum's are big offenders there. I always thought, and believe, that a 40, 80 and 100 kph speed zones were just that. Go faster than that and you are breaking the law whether it be 1 kph, 20 kph or more, then you are exceeding the speed limit and should suffer the consequences. Maybe William considers himself above the law and can do what every likes but no doubt if someone breaks into his home, assaults him, steals from him, commits road rage, or dents his car he would be first to demand that the police should deal with it. However the police would probably be slow to respond as they are booking the idiots that are currently exceeding the speed limit. Speed limits are set to ensure the safety of all pedestrians and road-users. Wake up to yourself lead foot.
Posted by Michael, 20/10/2008 2:37:56 PM
A part of me would like to see the Greens join in Coalition with the Libs. The ALP consistently takes the Greens for granted at every election, assuming they'll get all the preferences. One way of confounding that for ever more would be to get into bed with the libs. High risk strategy for the ACT greens, but valuable for the Greens nationally
Posted by South of the border, 20/10/2008 2:29:29 PM
Government and the cabinet should reflect the proportional support by votes from the community. Anything less is unrepresentative. End of story. So the Greens (as much as I like meat with them) deserve a proportional representation (just as do Liberals) in the cabinet - more sensible than sticking to any fuddy duddy "rules" of the Westminster system.
Posted by Concerned Canberran, 20/10/2008 12:33:47 PM
I am so pleased the Greens have done so well, they deserve it. Let's hope this is an end to Stanhope's pro farmer's lobby anti animal stance!
Posted by DW, 20/10/2008 12:10:29 PM
Tom, the Greens can not hold anyone to ransom. They can vote for or against legislation as they see fit, just as the Labor and Liberal parties can do the same. If Labor and the Liberals have some legislation that they agree on, but the Greens don't, there is nothing stopping them from passing it, no matter who forms government. It is called democracy. 16% of Canberrans voted for the Greens, which means the Greens have a responsibility to represent them in the Assembly. If they did anything less than that, it would not be democracy would it?
Posted by Huw, 20/10/2008 11:31:37 AM
I'd rather a coalition between the Libs & Labor...they have more in common than the Greens....and besides that would represent the great majority view of the people....not some MINOR party holding the rest to ransom.
Posted by Tom Maish, 20/10/2008 10:33:47 AM
How can people say Australians are sick of a 2 party system when almost 75% (3 in 4 people) voted for the 2 major parties!
Posted by Francis Jones, 20/10/2008 10:31:29 AM
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