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Canberra bashing: Keating, Fraser let fly

23 Oct, 2009 10:33 AM
Former prime ministers Paul Keating and Malcolm Fraser have been called ''old fossils'' and ''hypocrites'' after the pair were involved in Canberra-bashing yesterday.Mr Keating said the Senate was an accident waiting to happen as a result of lower quotas to secure a seat and Canberra was a ''great mistake''.

''The capital should never have been there. It should have been in Melbourne or Sydney,'' Mr Keating said at the launch of historian John Hirst's book Building a Free Australia: Places of Democracy.

''The proper place for ... the Australian parliament house should have been on Garden Island in Sydney Harbour.''

He was joined at the launch by Mr Fraser, who turned the first sod to start construction of Parliament House, which opened in 1988 and cost more than $1billion.

''I'm not particularly proud of that. My government made the decision to go ahead and build the thing,'' Mr Fraser told the audience at Melbourne's Athenaeum Library.

''It's probably the most extravagant building ever built in Australia. It's grand beyond belief.''

''And I'm not sure that's what a parliament house is meant to be.''

Former ACT Chief Minister Gary Humphries who is now a Liberal senator said the pair was ''reliving the battles of the past''.

''They're a couple of old fossils if you ask me,'' Senator Humphries said.

''They're also hypocrites on both these issues they've raised.

''Keating complains about the low quotas in the Senate, but he was minister in the government that approved the increase in the size of the Senate from 60 to 72 which lowered the quota. Fraser complains about the building that he signed off on as prime minister.''

Parliament House was a treasure and magnificent building, Walter Burley Griffin Society Canberra chapter chairman Brett Odgers said.

''Given that so many components of Griffin's original plan for our national capital have been lost or wrecked, it was a relief to many of us who admire Griffin's plan that the Parliament House was able to revive many of these elements,'' he said.

''By emphasising the land axis and the great triangle and the broad avenues of the triangle and the visitors around the central national area, the new Parliament House succeeded in reviving the beauty of the original plan for Canberra.''

Mr Odgers was ''puzzled'' by Mr Fraser's views and said Canberra was a well sited capital where Australians came to commemorate and celebrate national identity and national events.

''This issue was settled 110 years ago and it's hardly up for discussion again,'' he said. Hirst's book , published by the Australian Heritage Council, traces the development of democracy by focusing on places and buildings of the 19th century.

with AAP

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Bizarre. Those two codgers should get out less often. I reckon that (for all the Stanhopisation of Burley Griffin's vision) Canberra is one of the few world-class innovations ever perpetrated by this middling country, and Giurgiola's New Parliament House is one for the ages.
Posted by Stephen, 23/10/2009 9:33:40 AM
Those 2 are spot on. The capital city of a country should be a major city and not a country town with kangaroos hopping around it. The capital should also be in a city that is better services by flights, domestically and internationally. Being an anti Canberra comment, I don't expect the biased Canberra Times moderator to approve it, but how about presenting both sides and simulating discussion.
Posted by Matt, 23/10/2009 9:49:18 AM
Who cares what these political dinosaurs think!
Posted by jayell, 23/10/2009 9:57:43 AM
It’s nice to be important, but it’s more important to be nice.
Posted by Serious, 23/10/2009 10:10:27 AM
Fraser and Keating are obviously still playing to the ignorant prejudices they exploited while they were in power. Someone should take them aside and remind them that they are retired and irrelevant.
Posted by Yuri, 23/10/2009 10:18:52 AM
''The capital should never have been there" - well, sorry, but Keating is right. Canberra should have been built on the coast! There wasn't a day I lived in Canberra when I didn't curse the old bearded idiots who decided the nation's capital should be built inland.
Posted by John, 23/10/2009 10:28:28 AM
This is completely unproductive and futile argument. Canberra was sanctioned and is here to stay whether people believe it was a mistake or not. Surely there are other issues in Australia that these seemingly well educated retirees could think about and contribute towards.
Posted by Emma, 23/10/2009 10:54:37 AM
Well not everyone has to like everywhere. I have lived here for 2 years after moving from Melbourne and it is only now I am getting off the beaten track, making friends and little discoveries about Canberra that I can see myself being here for the long term. The meaning of Canberra for us locals would be a far cry from the politicians.
Posted by Seriously, 23/10/2009 10:56:17 AM
No question Canberra is a beautiful city. But like anything else it isn't perfect and has some (albeit relatively minor) problems. Matt, I'm interested, why does the capital have to be a 'major city'? Does that mean NYC should be the capital of the US, Auckland the capital of NZ, and Istanbul the capital of Turkey just to name a few?
Posted by ppp, 23/10/2009 11:07:47 AM
Paul who? Canberra is beautiful
Posted by Lennon, 23/10/2009 11:41:32 AM
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