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Gallagher stalls on smoking in cars ban

31 Jul, 2008 08:45 AM
ACT Health Minister Katy Gallagher says the Government will eventually ban smoking in cars carrying children, but is first examining similar laws in other states.

NSW announced yesterday $250 on-the-spot fines for drivers caught smoking while in vehicles with children under the age of 16.

Ms Gallagher said the Government planned to include a ban on smoking in cars as part of a later tranche of legislation.

She said her department was monitoring similar laws in South Australia and Tasmania.

''We thought we'd wait a year to see how those laws were enforced, we'd see how hard it would be to police this offence and enforce it,'' Ms Gallagher said.

But she said research from South Australia had also shown that 70 per cent of smokers were not lighting up in their cars and the laws were effective at raising awareness in the community.

''My feeling on this is that we just need to move on it now,'' she said.

Opposition Health spokeswoman Jacqui Burke said she would support the ban in principle but criticised the Government for not consulting widely on its anti-smoking laws.

''We need to educate people but you have to bring the community with you ... We need more than legislation, you can't just club people into submission,'' she said.

Anti-smoking group Action on Smoking and Health chief Anne Jones urged ACT Legislative Assembly members to support a ban on smoking in cars.

''The evidence [is] that children are extremely vulnerable to exposure to second-hand smoke, particularly in an enclosed space like a car,'' Ms Jones said.

The Government has already tabled a batch of anti-smoking legislation which could come before the Assembly in its final sitting weeks.

The proposed laws would ban flavoured cigarettes and split packets, and remove ministerial exemption for tobacco advertising and sponsorship.

The main point of contention is a ban which forces retailers to remove or black-out displays of tobacco products at the point of sale.

Canberra's tobacconists have protested the display ban would hit their businesses hard.

Boomerang Tobacconist and Gifts owner John Grunberg said the ban could lead to Prohibition-like attitudes.

''I think it'll have a much bigger impact on the Government because of the revenue loss and they won't be able to keep tabs on [tobacco],'' Mr Grunberg said.

''If you don't have any displays how will you know what's happening?''

He said tobacco should be treated as a legitimate product and tobacconists had to be licenced to sell their wares.

''We sell a variety of tobacco from Cuban cigars to common cigarettes and we do a lot of expensive and high-end cigars. People come in and say, 'My brother's had a son or daughter', they want to get a couple of really nice cigars and a bottle of wine. All that could disappear.''

Ms Gallagher said it was inevitable there would be a point at which the industry and the Government could not reconcile their differences.

''I'm coming at it from the Health Minister's point of view rather than a business point of view,'' she said.

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Now correct me if I am wrong here. We can't afford to have Police officers tied up with traffic duty because of cost inefficency. So we have these wonderful revenue raising speed cameras. But we can afford to have Police monitoring whether people are smoking in their own cars. And of course, the Police will then, in some cases, have to prove that the child is not over 16. I am a parent and I don not smoke in my car when my kids are in there and they are both over 16. Now it is obvious that the only two dangerous things on our roads are speed and parents smoking in cars, right?? But I must ask, what about the number of unroad worthy cars out there, the number of cars that seem to have broken indicators when turning or changing lanes, the number of people who are colour blind and don't know what a red light is, the number of people who are blind and change lanes (with no idicator of course) when you are right next to them. I would hope that our wonderful politicians have more important road issues to be concerned about than satisfying this death-sentence worthy crime of smoking in a car. And we as a society have the gaul to wonder why so many things are going wrong in society.
Posted by You are kidding, 31/07/2008 10:56:24 AM
The fun police strike again.
Posted by you got to be kidding, 31/07/2008 3:24:02 PM
I think it is getting a bit tough, cars belong to the people who drive them, the government makes a lot of revenue out of people who buy smokes, but they never complain about that, they just make these people out to be second rate citizens they penalise them where ever, but still put there hand out for the taxes. Is the government going to pay the car rego for car owners because it seems that there car will on longer be there own personal space, to do as they please, inside the vechile. By the way I do not smoke. I do not agree with smoking when children are in the car, but that is there decision most of the people I see smoking have there windows down.
Posted by Ellen, 31/07/2008 10:48:02 PM
I assume you will be banning diesal also? check out Kitty Little diesal dangers. We know how dangerous that stuff is, yet children are forced to breathe it in. You have NO proof just propaganda about the dangers of so called "passive smoking". Will you be forcing parents "not" to wear carcinogenic perfumes and after-shaves? http://www.ourlittleplace.com/che micals.html 3. BENZYL ACETATE (in: perfume, cologne, shampoo, fabric softener, stickup air freshener, dishwashing liquid and detergent, soap, hairspray, bleach, after shave, deodorants) Carcinogenic (linked to pancreatic cancer); "From vapors: irritating to eyes and respiratory passages, exciting cough." "In mice: hyperanemia of the lungs." "Can be absorbed through the skin causing systemic effects." "Do not flush to sewer." http://www.mamashealth.com/doc/cl eanprod.asp FURNITURE POLISH: contain petroleum distillates, which are highly flammable and can cause skin and lung cancer. They contain nitrobenzene, which is easily absorbed through the skin and extremely toxic. Probably not! freedom2choose.info for tolerant non-smokers and smokers alike
Posted by nomasmad, 1/08/2008 5:21:50 AM
You're right in a way, we shouldn't need these laws and it's really sad if we do. Surely smokers should be considerate enough not to smoke in a car carrying a child without needing a law telling them not to. It's the other, less considerate smokers, that this law would target; those who are not responsible enough to smoke without affecting others.
Posted by Sad, 1/08/2008 9:45:55 AM

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