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CSIRO climate experts defiant

15 Apr, 2009 07:51 AM
A group of CSIRO senior climate scientists has defied a gag order by the organisation to speak out on Australia's proposed greenhouse reduction targets.

The four high-profile scientists Michael Raupach, John Church, Pep Canadell and James Risbey have broken ranks with CSIRO to make personal submissions to a Senate inquiry into the Rudd Government's emissions trading scheme.

They claim tougher targets are needed to avoid Australia being ''locked in'' to dangerous climate change, and list 14 recent scientific findings that support their argument.

The rebel scientists cannot comment on their decision because they are public servants. But a CSIRO source said they could risk censure and possible career repercussions by taking such a public stand against the Government's controversial greenhouse reduction targets.

A CSIRO spokesman denied there was a gag on its scientists participating in the inquiry, and said the four were, ''welcome to make comment as long as they are not representing CSIRO''.

All four CSIRO scientists are world leaders in their various areas of climate research. Dr Raupach co-chairs the Global Carbon project, which oversees international research on the global carbon cycle. Dr Church chairs the scientific committee for the Geneva-based World Climate Research Program, Dr Canadell is executive director of the Global Carbon project and Dr Risbey has been involved in global climate research for more than 20 years.

A CSIRO source told The Canberra Times the group was determined to ''present new scientific findings to the Senate inquiry that it believes are crucial to shaping Australia's future greenhouse policies''.

The source said the scientists made their decision to go ahead with personal submissions after CSIRO management ruled out any participation in the inquiry by Australia's peak science body on the grounds that it would require comment on government policy.

A CSIRO spokesman said the inquiry's terms of reference, ''went to the policy of the Government's carbon pollution reduction scheme, and in line with our public comment policy, we don't comment on government policy''.

The scientists had been told to, ''make it absolutely clear'' they were not speaking on behalf of CSIRO. If asked to testify, they will be required to take formal leave and travel at their own expense.

For more, pick up a copy of today's Canberra Times

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These men are not scientists. Scientists examine all the evidence not just the parts that suit their personal opinions. They are ignoring the overwhelming evidence that climate change is part of the Earth's natural cycle, instead preferring to run around like a bunch of Chicken Littles.
Posted by Michael, 15/04/2009 8:54:18 AM
Good on the Four. The issues are too important to play the political game. Even if these guys are/were wrong, it is vital that all voices be heard, not just a potentially sanitised government, CSIRO or any particular voice. These men have, at some personal peril, spoken out, and for that alone have my respect. It's likely that they are correct in their claims. Maybe we will see a few more scientist come out of the cloisters and support these guys - that would be very Australian.
Posted by Hendo, 15/04/2009 8:58:31 AM
While we have such a high population growth, driven by our "skills shortages" immigration program, any addressing of climate change is a waste of time. Nothing can grow forever, especially on finite natural resources. Our planet is over-loaded with people, and people need power and use resources. Any recycling, use of renewable energy and stringent use of water etc is just negated by more consumers, more people to boost the economy! It is just like mopping up the floor while the tap is still running. Anti-growth lobbyists are labelled as "anti-immigration" or "racists"! Any people suggesting real efforts to address climate change are gagged.
Posted by Jose, 15/04/2009 9:20:01 AM
Lets be honest for a change. The prime government interest now should be how we (humanity) are going survive climate change. Its already too late to stop major climate change from occuring over the next few centuries.
Posted by rzzz, 15/04/2009 10:28:08 AM
It's unfortunate that, from their job descriptions, these four "scientists" get their income from promoting the carbon myth. Do they realise that temperatures have been falling since 1998 and that scientists have proven from the Vostok Ice Core samples that the rise in CO2 FOLLOWS the rise in temperature. More scientific information can be found at http://www.climatesceptics.com.au
Posted by Geoff from Ourimbah, 15/04/2009 11:27:54 AM
evidence around the globe is mounting on the terrible effects of climate change - I am sure one of the election promises of this government was to act decisively and courageously on this matter- or was I just dreaming??
Posted by moose, 15/04/2009 1:02:14 PM
Lots of good ideas expressed by previous commentators. Climate change is part of the earth's natural cycle; no one can stop this natural cycle - nor should we. All the details about carbon trading & cutting emissions won't have any effect on the big picture. What we should be focussing on is how humankind can adapt to survive the change. Let's put our energies & dollars into this aspect.
Posted by Jeannie, 15/04/2009 1:56:54 PM
Hard to believe, as ice shelves fall off Antarctica and we experience warmer temperatures consistently over the last decade or so that half the replies to this article are from so-called 'climate sceptics'. One wonders if they have a vested interest or whether their heads are determinedly in the sand. I reckon that the brave act of standing up and speaking to what they see as truth, despite potential effect on their jobs, indicates the seriousness of the problem and the scientists' rightful concern about the Aus Govt's very light response. they deserve plaudits! 'Part of Earth's natural cycle' - are coal-fired power plants and transport just another aspect of biodiversity then?
Posted by deb, 15/04/2009 2:29:12 PM
For near two decades the speculative results from CSIRO climate models have gulled Australian policymakers and bolstered doomster predictions for the coming century. Maybe these people really believe their own predictions. What a storm in a teacup that these unproductive scientists are miffed that whoever/whatever in Govt has heard enough of what they have to say. Nothing Australia does can effect climate which has always been changing due to a multitude of poorly understood natural causes. A process which starts with the SUN. We could cease our entire industrial base and return to life as intinerant hunter-gathers; the worlds climate would not be affected by one iota.
Posted by Warwick Hughes, 15/04/2009 2:38:55 PM
Think of the atmosphere in terms of a fluid. If you add something to that fluid it changes the properties of the fluid, salt will raise the boiling temperature of water etc. There is no doubt we are adding to our atmosphere and that this addition of gases and aerosols is a result of our activities. To suggest that this has no effect on the properties of the atmosphere is hard for me to beleive. I beleive it is sensible to use our resources sparingly and to use those that renew themselves in favour of those that are finite recources. Of course we must adapt, but we must also tackle the cause and I believe we are in no small part responsible.
Posted by Morgan, 15/04/2009 2:51:47 PM
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