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Todd Carney pic tweeter no stranger to Josh Dugan

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Josh Dugan says he's not surprised the first person to post the Todd Carney lewd photo was the same person he had engaged with in a Twitter war last year.

It cost Dugan a $2 million contract with the Broncos after he told Mark Miler, who is @MarkRaider1 on Twitter, to "end himself" following what he believes was a series of taunts from disgruntled Raiders fans after he was sacked by the club.

"I wasn't aware it was him, but to be honest it doesn't surprise me," Dugan said about Miler.

Run in: Josh Dugan on the burst on Monday night.

Run in: Josh Dugan on the burst on Monday night. Photo: Getty Images

Miler did not take the photo, but it's understood he was the first person to post it on social media.

Dugan, who sympathises with Carney, took aim at Miler on Twitter in March last year, retaliating to a barrage of abuse from Raiders fans on social media.

"haha righto Marky Mark: go get another Raiders Tattoo then end yourself," Dugan posted on Twitter last year.

The first tweet that appeared on Twitter.

The first tweet that appeared on Twitter.

"Your mrs is hot too by the way haha you obviously don't read the news more the fool you haha your a joke. All my tats put together are better than your one rubbish one plus your bad head. Should call you don bradman ya batting well above average with her. Send her my way ill show her the time of her life."

Dugan has since got his life back on track at St George Illawarra, but said it was easy to get caught up in the wrong crowd when living the lifestyle of a footballer.

"It's just a practical joke gone wrong," he said.

"I do feel for Toddy. He's not a bad bloke, he's just made a few bad choices, and I've been there so I can definitely sympathise. I was younger than him but I trained full time with him and [he] sort of looked after me while I was there at Canberra.

"He maybe hung out with the wrong people. It happened to me a couple of times in Canberra and I paid the price for it. But you live and you learn."

NSW skipper Paul Gallen, who said it was "harsh" for Carney to be sacked over the photo, was not aware of his former Cronulla teammate's contractual agreements or his previous offences.

"The decision is out of my hands, it's a very hard position that I'm in," Gallen said.

"I've got a lot of loyalty towards Todd but also a lot of loyalty towards the club. I'm not privileged to all the information about Todd's contract and what has happened in the past, this year and previous years.

"From all reports and everything that was told to us players yesterday, the club was left with little choice and the NRL would have come over the top anyway. That is basically what I got out of the meeting yesterday."

Gallen said his main concern was the welfare of his close friend.

"The world is going to keep moving on and Todd has to as well," he said.

"We want to make sure he does that in the right way and he gets his life sorted out – that Todd Carney as a person is ok.

"That's the most important thing to me and the rest of the boys at the club ... The thing about Todd Carney, no matter what people think of him or how they judge him by what's happened or what has happened in the past, he's a really, really good person.

"He's got a real kind heart, very giving and unfortunately he has made some bad choices, we know that. We can't take away what he's done."

54 comments

  • Gal has hit the nail on the head. Regardless of his indiscretions, Todd's welfare is most important and life will go on. Lots of puritan stone throwers in these threads who are lucky social media wasn't around when they made mistakes. The saddest thing is TC's unrealised potential.

    Commenter
    Manfred
    Date and time
    July 01, 2014, 11:14PM
    • No, he made his bed and then wet it - if it was a first mistake you could do the 'poor judgement of a young overpaid footballer' argument. How many times does he have to be sacked before he starts to think before he acts, and that includes getting drunk to the point he does these things. His contract would have been clear that he was on thin ice, its his own fault. Granted, if it wasn't on social media it would have been a rumour nobody would believe.

      No one would care, or be surprised, if an amateur footballer was caught doing this stupid act, and if it was on social media it would be just another idiot. But he is supposedly a professional, supposedly a role model for kids and paid not just for his on field talent but to represent a sport and his club. If anyone else did this same thing in a way that reflected on their employer they would be sacked too. It is about time we stop excusing stupid behavior simply because some thug can kick/throw/run better than most.

      Commenter
      Bundy
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      July 02, 2014, 9:53AM
    • Agree Manfred and all Todd needs to do to fix the problem is to get off of the grog.

      Commenter
      Paul01
      Location
      Riverina
      Date and time
      July 02, 2014, 10:11AM
  • Mark Miller sounds like a great guy

    Commenter
    JM64
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    July 02, 2014, 6:20AM
    • .... though I doubt Mark Miler is !?

      Commenter
      Machooka
      Location
      inner west sydney
      Date and time
      July 02, 2014, 11:28AM
  • Well if it is not true HE SHOULD SUE WHO EVER TOOK THE PICTURE! he was standing very close to the person who took the picture!

    Commenter
    asproella
    Location
    merrimac
    Date and time
    July 02, 2014, 6:57AM
    • Still an amazing footballer with plenty of life in ya todd! Go to french rugby where the moneys better, the woman are hot, the food and wine is great and most of all you will last twice as long career wise! Keep your head up mate!

      Commenter
      loaded9
      Date and time
      July 02, 2014, 7:29AM
      • I think the catch is French rugby doesn't need a three time loser who can't exercise any cogent degree of self-restraint. There was an interesting article by Steve Mascord in the SMH yesterday which noted that although rugby union as a spectacle is on life support it attracts the big sponsorship dollars. To continue to attract those dollars you need representatives the game is proud of - not the discards from other codes.

        Commenter
        DoubleJ
        Date and time
        July 02, 2014, 10:09AM
      • Good call loaded.

        Todd give up the grog and go to France but make sure you give up the grog.

        I may be noted that all of Todd's problems appear to be related to getting drunk and doing dumb things that young blokes do when they get drunk but because Todd is in the public eye his indiscretions are news.

        Just stop drinking Todd.

        Commenter
        Paul01
        Location
        Riverina
        Date and time
        July 02, 2014, 10:09AM
      • Nice comments....keep ya head up mate, this is nothing, you will love it over in France.....

        Commenter
        Nice
        Location
        Here and Now
        Date and time
        July 02, 2014, 10:11AM

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