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Live: Day one, fifth Ashes Test

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Join Jesse Hogan for ball-by-ball coverage of the first day at The Oval with Australia desperate to salvage a win from the series.

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  • Thanks Jesse - great coverage. Real sense of the game.

    Monty - iyi aksamlar.

    Commenter
    Oz Boy
    Date and time
    August 22, 2013, 3:20AM
    • A good day of Test Cricket. Aus slightly in front but they need to be because they'll collapse in the 2nd innings.

      Nitey nite

      Commenter
      Monty
      Location
      Sponsored by JetStar (again)
      Date and time
      August 22, 2013, 3:16AM
      • Can I ask as don't know, what is interesting about this game called cricket ?
        I can't see anything !

        Commenter
        Pierre
        Date and time
        August 22, 2013, 3:07AM
        • Oz Boy - I guess we both just know cricket.

          From different perspectives, of course, but, yeah, you know your stuff.

          And, as Jesse says, he ain't gonna stop banter.

          Commenter
          Monty
          Location
          Sponsored by JetStar (again)
          Date and time
          August 22, 2013, 3:07AM
          • Have seen nothing of KP today and now......what a f*****g catch!!!!

            Commenter
            Monty
            Location
            Sponsored by JetStar (again)
            Date and time
            August 22, 2013, 3:01AM
            • 148 people reading - surely they're not just reading Jesse's stuff.

              I say again, if somebody posts 15+ comments then we should get a free subscription. What say you Jesse?

              Commenter
              Monty
              Location
              Sponsored by JetStar (again)
              Date and time
              August 22, 2013, 3:00AM
              • Plebs like me have zero influence!

                Commenter
                Jesse
                Date and time
                August 22, 2013, 3:07AM
              • Well, you could mention it at you next meeting. Don't get me wrong, I love your stuff and WILL subscribe if totally necessary but I think that 'posters' should be given a discount.

                You, Jesse, have said yourself that this page wouldn't be the same without the regulars.

                And, I'm looking for a holiday and the JetStar to Bali looks good.

                So, they've paid for it - why should we.

                Commenter
                Monty
                Location
                Sponsored by JetStar (again)
                Date and time
                August 22, 2013, 3:13AM
              • I am sitting here in Turkey enjoying the coverage from Jesse (and a joust or two with Monty) - but with respect it is 3.13am in Oz - which CEO is up right now. When asked if he got ulcers from running the Ford Motor Company, Henry Ford replied that as he was boss he gave ulcers not got 'em. How are your ulcers Jesse? BTW - raki is drink of choice not bourbon!.

                Commenter
                Oz Boy
                Date and time
                August 22, 2013, 3:15AM
              • Not too bad thanks, but overly tired as didn't get enough naps in during day. Will remedy tomorrow, hopefully my blogging will improve.

                Commenter
                Jesse
                Date and time
                August 22, 2013, 3:16AM
            • LBW decision: clearly spoke to soon - our boys back in the thick of it. What's wrong with third umpire? Should have been supporting the mug in the middle irrespective of technology.

              Commenter
              Oz Boy
              Date and time
              August 22, 2013, 2:40AM
              • Can't believe that I'm going to say this but that was "not out".

                Game changer for sure but right decision.

                Commenter
                Monty
                Location
                Sponsored by Jetstar
                Date and time
                August 22, 2013, 2:45AM
              • What's up - I am giving away the grog and swapping to mind-altering drugs - Monty has agreed with me again. Head spin!

                Commenter
                Oz Boy
                Date and time
                August 22, 2013, 2:56AM
            • @Jesse 2.18am - More like: Sword of Damocles

              Commenter
              Monty
              Location
              Sponsored by Jetstar Business Class (haha)
              Date and time
              August 22, 2013, 2:21AM
              • Excalibur?

                Commenter
                Jesse
                Date and time
                August 22, 2013, 2:23AM
              • No Jesse - Sword of Damocles is the thought you have when you have the whole weight on your shoulders. The sword is held by a loose string and can happen to snap any minute.

                And, it's dangling above your head,

                That's Watson. And he's done well.

                Commenter
                Monty
                Location
                Sponsored by Jetstar Business Class (haha)
                Date and time
                August 22, 2013, 2:30AM
              • "The sword of Damocles is frequently used in allusion to this tale, epitomizing the imminent and ever-present peril faced by those in positions of power."

                Whole item: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damocles

                Commenter
                Monty
                Location
                Sponsored by Jetstar
                Date and time
                August 22, 2013, 2:34AM
              • Ha. Yeah, I know mate. Was just fostering delusions of (Watto) grandeur re my countering with Excalibur.

                Commenter
                Jesse
                Date and time
                August 22, 2013, 2:39AM
              • Ok Jesse - but Michael Clarke owns Excalibur and I doubt he lent Watson his bat!!

                Commenter
                Monty
                Location
                Sponsored by Jetstar Business Class (haha)
                Date and time
                August 22, 2013, 2:42AM
              • OMG - Monty has discovered Wikipedia and has become erudite - look that up in dictionary.

                Commenter
                Oz Boy
                Date and time
                August 22, 2013, 2:42AM
              • Well educated? Ermm...yeah

                Commenter
                Monty
                Location
                Sponsored by Jetstar
                Date and time
                August 22, 2013, 2:55AM
              • and this would be from Monty 'I am going to cry a tsunmai'

                Commenter
                Oz Boy
                Date and time
                August 22, 2013, 3:08AM
            • Hey Monty - you are complaining about $15 - lots of your comments are sponsored! Hansonism: please explain.

              Commenter
              OZ Boy
              Date and time
              August 22, 2013, 2:20AM
              • Look up "irony" in the dictionary.

                And lay off the bourbon and coke!

                Commenter
                Monty
                Location
                Sponsored by Jetstar Business Class (haha)
                Date and time
                August 22, 2013, 2:31AM
            • The 100+ run drop. Possibly will define this test

              Commenter
              kepler 22b
              Date and time
              August 22, 2013, 2:15AM
              • A series first. Just reviewed all comments and there has not been one about a stupid decision from the umpires (setting aside Broad). What has happened? Has everyone decided to ignore them and get on with the game?

                Commenter
                Oz Boy
                Date and time
                August 22, 2013, 2:04AM
                • World News: Monty agrees with Oz Boy!!

                  Don't they always say that an umpire has done his job when no-one talks about the umpire?

                  Good job so far.

                  And, for once, you talk sense.

                  Commenter
                  Monty
                  Location
                  Sponsored by Cycle Myanmar
                  Date and time
                  August 22, 2013, 2:09AM
                • OMG - what have I done? I knew I had a drinking problem but time to take it in hand - Monty thinks I have made sense.

                  Commenter
                  OZ Boy
                  Date and time
                  August 22, 2013, 2:16AM
              • Kerrigan doing better now. Wonder what's in those cucumber sandwiches?

                Commenter
                Monty
                Location
                Sponsored by..errm..Find a Babysitter
                Date and time
                August 22, 2013, 1:53AM
                • Kind of slow so can I please have a Pommie whinge?

                  This $15 per month for smh online is offensive. I, for one, will reserve my 15 free hits for the cricket and not read my favourite Australian paper online anymore.

                  It's not like the site cost isn't already covered by adverts (Jetstar, Freedom furniture, VW commercial vehicles etc). These constantly moving ads sap our internet usage and so we're already paying for it.

                  I assume that I'll have to move to ABC or BBC for the next Ashes. Especially because it's people like me, ryan, Andy, Peter from Marrickville, RTB, DB333 etc that make this particular page worth reading.

                  Solution: if you post 15 comments during a day's cricket - your subscription is free.

                  Just an idea.

                  Commenter
                  Monty
                  Location
                  Sydney
                  Date and time
                  August 22, 2013, 1:26AM
                    • Monty - way past your bed time and time to let the grown ups talk.

                      Commenter
                      Oz Boy
                      Date and time
                      August 22, 2013, 1:33AM
                    • Or, I'll pay the $15 but - no adverts.

                      SMH can't have it's cake and it too.

                      Commenter
                      Monty
                      Location
                      Sydney
                      Date and time
                      August 22, 2013, 1:33AM
                    • Oz Boy - have you paid your $15?

                      Commenter
                      Monty
                      Location
                      Sydney
                      Date and time
                      August 22, 2013, 1:37AM
                    • Or...I could do this..

                      Commenter
                      Monty
                      Location
                      Sponsored by JetStar
                      Date and time
                      August 22, 2013, 1:38AM
                    • Hahaha. It is not the comments section that makes this worth reading and it is not your comments and others which make it worthwhile. Plus this section is free, I've never been hit up for it.

                      Newspapers need to find a business model and rolling ads don't pay for it and certainly the zero impact on your data usage doesn't in the same way that you turning a page in a newspaper doesn't pay for it and neither do the ads in print editions.

                      I don't know if pay walls are the answer, we will know in a few years, but the days of good free information, well, they're not coming to a close but it is likely going to have to be paid for in some way and the amount is going to be becoming less and less.

                      Commenter
                      markfawkner
                      Date and time
                      August 22, 2013, 1:40AM
                    • Monty you have read my mind. I have taken stock of the $15 a month I signed for and just realised I must now baulk on. My second month will see this Ashes contest out and then it's just not worth it. What happens when the printed letters to the editor are gone and the cyber letters are gone? Have we then reached 1984 in 2013?

                      Commenter
                      RTP.
                      Location
                      Sawtell
                      Date and time
                      August 22, 2013, 1:40AM
                    • Two differing views both posted at 1.40am.

                      My case has merits.

                      Commenter
                      Monty
                      Location
                      Sponsored by VW Commercial Vehicles
                      Date and time
                      August 22, 2013, 1:47AM
                    • FFS - do not encourage him - I thought we had a real solution for him disappearing

                      Commenter
                      Oz Boy
                      Date and time
                      August 22, 2013, 1:48AM
                    • Also, "L'dan, L'dan e'nin stana" is now a free newspaper.

                      Looks like they got their business model right. Totally financed by adverts.

                      Commenter
                      Monty
                      Location
                      Sponsored by Freedom Furniure
                      Date and time
                      August 22, 2013, 1:50AM
                    • Think again Oz Boy

                      I'm hear all night - and for the next 4 days too :-)

                      Commenter
                      Monty
                      Location
                      Sponsored by JetStar
                      Date and time
                      August 22, 2013, 2:00AM
                  • Strange pic - think he be happy ?

                    Commenter
                    Dragonguy
                    Date and time
                    August 22, 2013, 12:47AM
                    • C'mon Steve Smith. We need him scoring big. He is the closest thing we have to a future captain right now.

                      Would love to see Smith as Captain and Wade as Vice by 2014.

                      Commenter
                      ryan2000
                      Location
                      london (formally Brunswick)
                      Date and time
                      August 22, 2013, 12:44AM
                      • Fair to say that Simon Kerrigan is having a shocker. Not nice to be facing 20/20 specialist, on fire, in your Test debut.

                        Have a cuppa tea and a cucumber sandwich, calm down and come out in the 3rd session and bowl the inconsistent bloke out - you'll be a hero.

                        Commenter
                        Monty
                        Location
                        Sydney
                        Date and time
                        August 22, 2013, 12:42AM
                        • Yep, pic is there.

                          Commenter
                          Kit Walker
                          Location
                          Bangalla
                          Date and time
                          August 22, 2013, 12:29AM
                          • Cheers

                            Commenter
                            Jesse
                            Date and time
                            August 22, 2013, 12:33AM
                        • I guess Warne is in the Sky commentary team to make Strauss look better

                          Commenter
                          Kit Walker
                          Date and time
                          August 22, 2013, 12:28AM
                          • Sorry, just a technical question for a second - does anyone see not see the pic of Watson from 12.15am? It's not loading for me. Thanks.

                            Commenter
                            Jesse
                            Date and time
                            August 22, 2013, 12:27AM
                            • It's loading just fine here Jesse - Firefox running on Linux with Flash disabled...

                              Commenter
                              demallien
                              Location
                              Paris
                              Date and time
                              August 22, 2013, 12:32AM
                            • Thanks for that.

                              Commenter
                              Jesse
                              Date and time
                              August 22, 2013, 12:33AM
                            • I see it. Not looking at it too much.

                              I'd be happy with 100 at the Oval.

                              Watson looks like he's suffering from constipation.

                              Commenter
                              Monty
                              Location
                              Sydney
                              Date and time
                              August 22, 2013, 12:33AM
                          • What's with these Watson apologists? He scores a century when there is no pressure on and we have lost the ashes and they laud him. No wonder Australia cricket is on the down when even the supporters think a century in a dead rubber is worth anywhere near what one is worth when the pressure is on. Watson apologists, I say again you should be ashamed of yourselves. We must demand batsmen who have ticker and not just pazzaz.

                            Commenter
                            RTP.
                            Location
                            Sawtell
                            Date and time
                            August 22, 2013, 12:23AM
                            • Oh come on! If Watson had got 40, he'd be slammed. He gets 117 (so far) he gets slammed.

                              Give the guy a break.

                              Maybe he's better suited to the short forms of the game but he is undoubtedly talented.

                              And, dead rubber or not, all 22 players on the field want to win this one for a whole hot of reasons.

                              Commenter
                              Monty
                              Location
                              Sydney
                              Date and time
                              August 22, 2013, 12:30AM
                            • RTP... I suspect you're big on the hyperbole and short on facts! Watto's average for the series is just about the eclipse Captain Clarke's. Give the guy a break and try and find the silver lining!

                              Commenter
                              Charmer
                              Location
                              Sydney
                              Date and time
                              August 22, 2013, 12:31AM
                            • Not sure what pazzaz is, but seeing as you don't think Watto has any ticker, it must've been the pazzaz that helped him get back to the crease after that massive blow to the ear. (I'm sure that didn't take any ticker at all. All you critics out there would've just laughed it off, right?)

                              Commenter
                              strawberrycupcake
                              Date and time
                              August 22, 2013, 12:38AM
                            • Monty and Charmer I have absolutely no doubt that Watson is a talented individual when it comes to watching a ball coming towards him from twenty two yards, making the correct decision about when and how to ensure that the ball makes contact with that piece of willow he holds in his hand and then with intent, ensures it quickly moves as far away from him as it possibly can in a given amount of time, BUT in the words of all of those who have played and loved the game for centuries THAT DOES NOT MAKE A CRICKETER.

                              Commenter
                              RTP.
                              Location
                              Sawtell
                              Date and time
                              August 22, 2013, 12:40AM
                            • I'm with strawberrycupcake!!

                              Commenter
                              Marco
                              Location
                              Sydney
                              Date and time
                              August 22, 2013, 1:00AM
                            • So, RTP - what does make a 'cricketer'?

                              Commenter
                              Monty
                              Location
                              Sydney
                              Date and time
                              August 22, 2013, 1:06AM
                            • Monty if you don't know that then you are just exercising you fingers on this post and I dare say have only graduated from tennis balls and the backyard to the computer and the flat screen. Try fifty years of club cricket from the coast to the desert and you may just understand.

                              Commenter
                              RTP.
                              Location
                              Sawtell
                              Date and time
                              August 22, 2013, 1:25AM
                            • Well, you did list out a very comprehensive list of what one 'should' do and then still remain a cricketer. I'm just asking what more he needs to do?

                              He gets 40-odd, he's slammed. He's on 139 and you're slamming him.

                              Sure, he's not the most consistent but he can be awesome and that's why he's in the team.

                              Commenter
                              Monty
                              Location
                              Sydney
                              Date and time
                              August 22, 2013, 1:30AM
                            • Please Monty are you a Pommy argent provocateur? No team can have an executive appointed captain and a media appointed vice- captain who hate each other’s gut so much and disagree so much as to who should be selected and in what positions that they’d rather run each other out in a Test rather than see the other get more runs. This is Facebook or Twitter cricket and not what our national game should be all about.

                              Commenter
                              RTP.
                              Location
                              Sawtell
                              Date and time
                              August 22, 2013, 1:56AM
                          • Hasn't proven anybody wrong, Just that flukes, or miracles happen from time to time.

                            Sun will probably rise in the west, tomorrow --- just one of those things

                            Commenter
                            peter hindrup
                            Date and time
                            August 22, 2013, 12:05AM
                            • Smile Peter... you can't deny it was a great knock!!

                              Commenter
                              Marco
                              Location
                              Sydney
                              Date and time
                              August 22, 2013, 12:12AM
                            • Wrong in what way?

                              Commenter
                              BeachBoy
                              Date and time
                              August 22, 2013, 12:15AM
                          • Well done Watto, need to make a double hundred after that drop from the nose picking captain at slip.

                            Commenter
                            DB333
                            Date and time
                            August 22, 2013, 12:01AM
                            • thank Christ for that, you finally proved people wrong. good for you Wato, congrat's on the century

                              Commenter
                              tim
                              Location
                              NEW YORK
                              Date and time
                              August 21, 2013, 11:52PM
                              • If you through a coin in the air enough times it will eventually come up heads a hundred times

                                Commenter
                                RTP.
                                Location
                                Sawtell
                                Date and time
                                August 22, 2013, 12:09AM
                            • Well batted Watson. Now just do it when it counts.

                              Commenter
                              Matt
                              Location
                              Sydney
                              Date and time
                              August 21, 2013, 11:52PM
                              • All the Watson knockers have gone quiet... must have headed off early for some beauty sleep. Missed an excellent and gutsy innings.

                                Commenter
                                Charmer
                                Location
                                Sydney
                                Date and time
                                August 21, 2013, 11:50PM
                                • What was that from Smith. Lucky not to be a first ball duck.The best we can do at no 5?

                                  Commenter
                                  kepler 22b
                                  Date and time
                                  August 21, 2013, 11:47PM
                                  • Clarke looked terrible out there, no surprise to see him go.

                                    Commenter
                                    Mike
                                    Date and time
                                    August 21, 2013, 11:46PM
                                    • Watson out in the 90s again. Out cold.

                                      Commenter
                                      Matt
                                      Location
                                      Sydney
                                      Date and time
                                      August 21, 2013, 11:13PM
                                      • Glad you were wrong Matt. A very good innings by Watto.

                                        Commenter
                                        Mike
                                        Date and time
                                        August 21, 2013, 11:54PM
                                    • the sh!t-stirrer in me would love to see one of these guys "accidentally" run out the other one...

                                      Commenter
                                      Rosman
                                      Date and time
                                      August 21, 2013, 11:05PM
                                      • Ian Chappell. What a piece of work. Said "how could Brian Lara get out to a woman?". Never liked him; hated him after that. What an egomaniac. He thinks his scrotum makes males superior to women in a sporting environment. Yeah, right.

                                        Commenter
                                        auntypizza
                                        Date and time
                                        August 21, 2013, 10:42PM
                                        • Refer my comment at 7.37pm. There are dinosaurs at the Natural History Museum that are more up to date with modern society.

                                          Why do ch9 persist with him?

                                          Commenter
                                          Monty
                                          Location
                                          Sydney
                                          Date and time
                                          August 22, 2013, 12:44AM
                                      • Austrlalia to win this test. Watto to get triple century in first innings of 6 Dec 711. England to be bowled out for 210 and 347.

                                        Australia to win 5 nil in Australia and Wallabies to take their frustration out on England at Twickers.

                                        There. I said the bloody obvious. Thank me later when you win the bet on such generous odds.

                                        Commenter
                                        Rock Wallaby
                                        Date and time
                                        August 21, 2013, 10:13PM
                                        • Holding comparing the wicket at The Oval to Mumbai!! LMAO!!!

                                          But...he has a point. 29 overs and nothing for the seamers.

                                          Commenter
                                          Monty
                                          Location
                                          Sydney
                                          Date and time
                                          August 21, 2013, 9:57PM
                                          • this backfoot play will have England worried, should we have bouncier wickets out here. he's in Stackpole mode again.

                                            Commenter
                                            Peter Warrington
                                            Location
                                            marrickville
                                            Date and time
                                            August 21, 2013, 9:45PM
                                            • Hundred before lunch on 1st day in england? charlie Macartney etc etc?

                                              Commenter
                                              Peter Warrington
                                              Location
                                              marrickville
                                              Date and time
                                              August 21, 2013, 9:43PM
                                              • OK so now its completely open slather in that the home team can dictate what the pitch is prepared like. We all know that it has happened but in the past most countries denied that they actually prepared pitches to suit their bowlers. So, can we expect the pitches in Australia for the second phase of the Ashes series to be hard, fast and green? The only problem being.... will that assist us?

                                                Commenter
                                                coling
                                                Date and time
                                                August 21, 2013, 9:40PM
                                                • only if we find some decent, FAST, fit, young quicks to support Harris.

                                                  Commenter
                                                  Peter Warrington
                                                  Location
                                                  marrickville
                                                  Date and time
                                                  August 21, 2013, 9:46PM
                                                • Er...yeah. And, yes, Australia will dictate the type of wickets in the next series.

                                                  And, no, it won't help because Anderson will bowl exceptionally well at the Gabba and the WACA. And, Swann will bowl well at the SCG and the MCG.

                                                  You lot had 15 years of dominance - we just have a slightly better team at the moment. You can't win every series in perpetuity.

                                                  Commenter
                                                  Monty
                                                  Location
                                                  Sydney
                                                  Date and time
                                                  August 21, 2013, 9:50PM
                                                • Swann will always be the best spinner in the series.

                                                  However, and call me an optimist, I think Anderson will be blunted. The Kooka doesn't swing anywhere near as much and Jimmy isn't that quick a bowler.

                                                  Commenter
                                                  Matt
                                                  Location
                                                  Sydney
                                                  Date and time
                                                  August 21, 2013, 11:05PM
                                              • Looking for Watson to make a big score! Thus ensuring his selection for the return series in the winter, and a walking wicket for the England bowlers!

                                                Commenter
                                                machiaveli
                                                Date and time
                                                August 21, 2013, 9:40PM
                                                • Dead rubber, big deal. Actually it's still better than netball, golf, basketball and tennis. Well fat people have to play netball or computer games or sit on the toilet, the others have no excuse.

                                                  Commenter
                                                  Watcher465
                                                  Date and time
                                                  August 21, 2013, 9:39PM
                                                  • Dead rubber? For this series, maybe but whoever wins this will have considerable confidence in 5 months time.

                                                    That's why both teams are going for it - full on.

                                                    I'd expect nothing less from either team.

                                                    That, and the chance of a 4-0 win (or a 0-4 loss) - plenty of incentive.

                                                    Commenter
                                                    Monty
                                                    Location
                                                    Sydney
                                                    Date and time
                                                    August 21, 2013, 9:52PM
                                                • Ha!! I bet England's secret plan is to let Watson and co. all get hundreds NOW to make sure they all keep their spots for next time round ;)

                                                  Commenter
                                                  The boy who cried wolf
                                                  Location
                                                  Planet Earth
                                                  Date and time
                                                  August 21, 2013, 9:36PM
                                                  • urgh, it's the hope that kills you. Rogers really needs to get to Watson in the 10 minutes before lunch and stick his tongue in his ear, to ensure the brain is switched on. another stumping or LB just before a break and I think I will cry : (

                                                    Commenter
                                                    Peter Warrington
                                                    Location
                                                    marrickville
                                                    Date and time
                                                    August 21, 2013, 9:35PM
                                                    • yes maximum is crap. and it's not even true, guys have scored an 8 before.

                                                      Commenter
                                                      Peter Warrington
                                                      Location
                                                      marrickville
                                                      Date and time
                                                      August 21, 2013, 9:33PM
                                                      • If Woakes was an Australian he'd have been dropped by now.

                                                        Commenter
                                                        Monty
                                                        Location
                                                        Sydney
                                                        Date and time
                                                        August 21, 2013, 9:26PM
                                                          • low blows are the best!

                                                            Commenter
                                                            Peter Warrington
                                                            Location
                                                            marrickville
                                                            Date and time
                                                            August 21, 2013, 9:37PM
                                                        • Rogers and Watson have now scored 19, 84, 42, 24, 76, 129 and now 48* in partnership. They clearly bring out the best in each other. Something to build on, somehow...?

                                                          Commenter
                                                          Peter Warrington
                                                          Location
                                                          marrickville
                                                          Date and time
                                                          August 21, 2013, 9:25PM
                                                          • Very quick 50 from Watson.

                                                            I see your point though. Australia really need to secure the top order and give them a chance. Constant chopping and changing is demoralising.

                                                            Commenter
                                                            Monty
                                                            Location
                                                            Sydney
                                                            Date and time
                                                            August 21, 2013, 9:34PM
                                                          • I noticed the same... I don't know why everyone is so down on Watson. Great 58 and still going...

                                                            Commenter
                                                            Positive thinking
                                                            Location
                                                            Sydney
                                                            Date and time
                                                            August 21, 2013, 9:36PM
                                                        • Weird - comments section is being updated quickly but not much from Jesse. A reversal of the usual situation.

                                                          You got an IT problem (again), Jesse?

                                                          Commenter
                                                          Monty
                                                          Location
                                                          Sydney
                                                          Date and time
                                                          August 21, 2013, 9:23PM
                                                          • No IT problems I know of. Just a lack of action, excepting Watto.

                                                            Commenter
                                                            Jesse
                                                            Date and time
                                                            August 21, 2013, 9:28PM
                                                        • Geez, with Haddin coming in at no. 6 it's a long tail. Mind you that's probably not such a bad thing this series.

                                                          Commenter
                                                          kev_d
                                                          Location
                                                          Lake Macq
                                                          Date and time
                                                          August 21, 2013, 9:03PM
                                                          • Damn! Two spinners on after only 11 overs.

                                                            Now I really regret my actions at that Brighton nightclub. I could have been picked for this!

                                                            Commenter
                                                            Monty
                                                            Location
                                                            Sydney
                                                            Date and time
                                                            August 21, 2013, 8:56PM
                                                            • Come on Monty, you are pssing in my pocket!

                                                              Commenter
                                                              Wet bouncer
                                                              Date and time
                                                              August 21, 2013, 9:23PM
                                                            • Nah - on your shoes.

                                                              That's my MO

                                                              Commenter
                                                              Monty
                                                              Location
                                                              Sydney
                                                              Date and time
                                                              August 21, 2013, 9:24PM
                                                          • Australia ! Relocation Specialists !
                                                            From England to Australia by Captain Cook !

                                                            Commenter
                                                            vic rhodes
                                                            Date and time
                                                            August 21, 2013, 8:53PM
                                                            • t would be better for Darren Lehmann to get his side into shape, rather than inciting the Aussie crowds to hurl abuse at one English player.

                                                              That this simple principle of sportmanship seems to elude him speaks volumes of the desperation of the Aussies- "we're losing badly, we can't play, so we'll sledge the opponents instead". Piss. Weak.

                                                              Commenter
                                                              Bass Guy
                                                              Date and time
                                                              August 21, 2013, 8:48PM
                                                              • If the selectors shuffled cards as well as they shuffled the batting line-up... Poor Usman...must be gong bad if you are replaced by all reputation and no batting statistics as I get out LBW Watson

                                                                Commenter
                                                                Big Bird
                                                                Location
                                                                St Georges Basin
                                                                Date and time
                                                                August 21, 2013, 8:43PM
                                                                • how bad must Hughes feel, then, innings of a lifetime at Trent Bridge and dropped a test later (again). don't worry, they refused Craig Serjeant, too!

                                                                  Commenter
                                                                  Peter Warrington
                                                                  Location
                                                                  marrickville
                                                                  Date and time
                                                                  August 21, 2013, 8:53PM
                                                                • Khawaja has never taken the chances he's been given at test level. Hughes and Cowan pretty much likewise. I think they'll each need a lot of runs to force their way back in. The real issue here is the selection of only 5 specialist batters.

                                                                  Commenter
                                                                  rudy
                                                                  Date and time
                                                                  August 21, 2013, 10:09PM
                                                              • So the thug with the big mouth still can't bat. I hope the high performance manager will follow him round tonight with a punching bag so he can display to the clubbers what a great puncher he is. Better still the high performance manager could substitute himself for the punching bag.

                                                                Commenter
                                                                RTP.
                                                                Location
                                                                Sawtell
                                                                Date and time
                                                                August 21, 2013, 8:37PM
                                                                • At least he doesn't pee on people. Hi Monty!

                                                                  Commenter
                                                                  Andy
                                                                  Location
                                                                  Thailand
                                                                  Date and time
                                                                  August 21, 2013, 8:45PM
                                                                • A thug for punching little fairy Root? Geez a 10 year girl could knock Root over. Not sure what the performance manager has done wrong either.

                                                                  Commenter
                                                                  DB333
                                                                  Date and time
                                                                  August 21, 2013, 9:00PM
                                                                • DB - 'not sure what the performance manager has done wrong either?"

                                                                  Errrmm....3-0

                                                                  You simply haven't performed. And, place England with a chance to 4-0. Never, ever been done.

                                                                  So, yes, he's not done much good.

                                                                  Commenter
                                                                  Monty
                                                                  Location
                                                                  Sydney
                                                                  Date and time
                                                                  August 21, 2013, 9:06PM
                                                                • so using him as a punching bag is an option Monty, pissing on him would be the preferred method I suppose?

                                                                  Commenter
                                                                  DB333
                                                                  Date and time
                                                                  August 21, 2013, 9:12PM
                                                                • Well DB - you said it. And most of the Aussie press have done exactly that.

                                                                  You can't argue with the fact that this could be the worst Ashes performance in England in 133 years. It's fact.

                                                                  And if a performance manager had done is job then it would have been more competitive.

                                                                  Face it - the Aussie batsmen have not been correctly performance managed.

                                                                  Commenter
                                                                  Monty
                                                                  Location
                                                                  Sydney
                                                                  Date and time
                                                                  August 21, 2013, 9:21PM
                                                                • I don't blame any managers, its the players that have to stand up. The managers aren't in the middle catching Broad at slip, oh wait that didn't happen.

                                                                  Commenter
                                                                  DB333
                                                                  Date and time
                                                                  August 21, 2013, 9:49PM
                                                              • me old mate Shane looks a likely LB again because Anderson is seriously on song. should he do a Hayden and take guard a yard down the track?

                                                                Commenter
                                                                Peter Warrington
                                                                Location
                                                                marrickville
                                                                Date and time
                                                                August 21, 2013, 8:30PM
                                                                • Peter - I agree.

                                                                  Well, I would but as a Pom I hope he keeps his LBW tendency (obviously). Looks like he didn't listen to Pup during that (very staged) net practice a few days ago.

                                                                  Commenter
                                                                  Monty
                                                                  Location
                                                                  Sydney
                                                                  Date and time
                                                                  August 21, 2013, 8:36PM
                                                                • just to add some context to the inevitable hysteria. this is top notch swing and seam bowling, great length, fast enough, Broad jagging them and Anderson fizzing them. reminds me of McGrath and Gillespie in their pomp (as opposed to the skim lattes served up by Bird and Siddle last test).

                                                                  Commenter
                                                                  Peter Warrington
                                                                  Location
                                                                  marrickville
                                                                  Date and time
                                                                  August 21, 2013, 8:51PM
                                                                • Double shot espresso vs a half shot soy latte.

                                                                  Commenter
                                                                  Monty
                                                                  Location
                                                                  Sydney
                                                                  Date and time
                                                                  August 21, 2013, 9:03PM
                                                                • yes, I am a doppio man meself, and always an admirer of quality quicks, of any species. (was reliving some John Snow scorecards on cricinfo this arvo, what a gun! but with the more nuanced wobble of a Geoff Arnold or a Hendrick, and a nipper like Chilly Old. loved those guys as much as I hated Edrich, Luckhurst, Fletcher and their ilk.)

                                                                  Commenter
                                                                  Peter Warrington
                                                                  Location
                                                                  marrickville
                                                                  Date and time
                                                                  August 21, 2013, 9:10PM
                                                                • I thought Cummins would put an end to this decaf nonsense. am in despair at his loss. pick 6 leggies and see what happens?

                                                                  Commenter
                                                                  Peter Warrington
                                                                  Location
                                                                  marrickville
                                                                  Date and time
                                                                  August 21, 2013, 9:12PM
                                                                • What's a doppio? It sounds like some sort of new spin bowl like the 'flipper' or the 'wrong'un'.

                                                                  Me: Espresso in the morning, macchiato in the afternoon, flat white at supper time!

                                                                  Commenter
                                                                  Monty
                                                                  Location
                                                                  Sydney
                                                                  Date and time
                                                                  August 21, 2013, 9:17PM
                                                                • double espresso. nice little cafe on Pitt St, too

                                                                  Commenter
                                                                  Peter Warrington
                                                                  Location
                                                                  marrickville
                                                                  Date and time
                                                                  August 21, 2013, 9:27PM
                                                                • "flat white in the evening"?
                                                                  What do you want to do have a bath in it ?

                                                                  Commenter
                                                                  When in Rome
                                                                  Date and time
                                                                  August 21, 2013, 9:37PM
                                                              • Siddle has scored 1, 11, 2, 18, 1, 5 and 23. not really good enough to be #8 ahead of Starc or even Harris?

                                                                Commenter
                                                                Peter Warrington
                                                                Location
                                                                marrickville
                                                                Date and time
                                                                August 21, 2013, 8:28PM
                                                                • Wattos batting !

                                                                  Commenter
                                                                  vic rhodes
                                                                  Date and time
                                                                  August 21, 2013, 8:27PM
                                                                  • Im on the tube flashin channells oh crickets in how nice. BIT OF A SWING AND miss then a close appeal before a flash around the dial then back to.cricket oh 1 Flash around a bit..then 1 for 11
                                                                    I think all bets should be on how many wicket aussies lose in the 1st hundred runs. There is really no further interest other than astranauts drowing in wayer in their helmets

                                                                    Commenter
                                                                    vic rhodes
                                                                    Date and time
                                                                    August 21, 2013, 8:26PM
                                                                    • How much longer are they going to persevere with Warner?

                                                                      Commenter
                                                                      ET
                                                                      Date and time
                                                                      August 21, 2013, 8:24PM
                                                                      • Australia should just pick Clarke and 11 bowlers. We'd provide more batting resistance that way.

                                                                        Commenter
                                                                        Not again
                                                                        Date and time
                                                                        August 21, 2013, 8:24PM
                                                                        • yes, playing with 12 is definitely a tactic worth considering

                                                                          Commenter
                                                                          Peter Warrington
                                                                          Location
                                                                          marrickville
                                                                          Date and time
                                                                          August 21, 2013, 8:37PM
                                                                      • Wow, how's the footwork of our opening batsman! Won't be up too late to see Faulkner make his debut with the bat.

                                                                        Commenter
                                                                        100% Arabica
                                                                        Date and time
                                                                        August 21, 2013, 8:22PM
                                                                        • England have picked the sort of team we should. the pitch will favour spin for most of the game and we have gone in with 4 quicks plus Watson. ok, Lyon might get support from Smith and Clarke, but Clarke has to actually bowl those two, and what will the 4 quicks be doing?

                                                                          Commenter
                                                                          Peter Warrington
                                                                          Location
                                                                          marrickville
                                                                          Date and time
                                                                          August 21, 2013, 8:21PM
                                                                          • Aus bowlers haven't been the problem. Don't worry about them - it's the batsmen

                                                                            ....there we go: Warner, GAWN!!!

                                                                            Commenter
                                                                            Monty
                                                                            Location
                                                                            Sydney
                                                                            Date and time
                                                                            August 21, 2013, 8:28PM
                                                                          • I do worry about them. we have not picked a balanced or effective attack. England have not clicked but are getting 300+ most of the time. we can't do much with the batting we have, but we can start making the bowling a little bit better.

                                                                            Commenter
                                                                            Peter Warrington
                                                                            Location
                                                                            marrickville
                                                                            Date and time
                                                                            August 21, 2013, 8:41PM
                                                                        • your analysis of the Rogers LB is wrong. it was hitting, but would have been rejected by an umpire's call on impact. which I thought was rubbish, it looked to hit him in line. to me, at least.

                                                                          Commenter
                                                                          Peter Warrington
                                                                          Location
                                                                          marrickville
                                                                          Date and time
                                                                          August 21, 2013, 8:20PM
                                                                          • Think I stand corrected. Cheers.

                                                                            Commenter
                                                                            Jesse
                                                                            Date and time
                                                                            August 21, 2013, 8:22PM
                                                                        • Brad Haddin same test batting average as Shane Watson.

                                                                          Commenter
                                                                          Stunsail
                                                                          Date and time
                                                                          August 21, 2013, 8:08PM
                                                                          • Darren, until you can walk the walk, be smart, don't talk!

                                                                            Commenter
                                                                            tim
                                                                            Date and time
                                                                            August 21, 2013, 8:03PM
                                                                              • Even Broads team mates think he's a cheat. http://www.espn.co.uk/cricket/sport/story/141816.html#BUyRxcX7jJ6lZg0X.99

                                                                                Commenter
                                                                                DB333
                                                                                Date and time
                                                                                August 21, 2013, 8:23PM
                                                                            • Yay, victory lap.We won the toss!

                                                                              Commenter
                                                                              stevek
                                                                              Location
                                                                              Sydney
                                                                              Date and time
                                                                              August 21, 2013, 7:55PM
                                                                              • Which means, given that the winner of the toss has won 3 tests and, let's face it, you would have won at OT, if the weather holds then Aus should win this.

                                                                                Commenter
                                                                                Monty
                                                                                Location
                                                                                Sydney
                                                                                Date and time
                                                                                August 21, 2013, 8:19PM
                                                                            • One person that should have been dropped is Ian Chappell. Tubby with Heals would be better on ch9.

                                                                              Commenter
                                                                              Monty
                                                                              Location
                                                                              Sydney
                                                                              Date and time
                                                                              August 21, 2013, 7:37PM
                                                                              • Oh dear Darren Lehmann, you're starting to sound a bit desperate now. Your comments on Melbourne radio have made headlines in England, and I'm afraid its you that will be seen as a laughing stock. For some reason when person in charge appears to lose control, showing their cards a bit, I can't help but think of poor old Keegan, outdone by Alex Feruson in the mindgames department!

                                                                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Yenzdq5g6o

                                                                                Commenter
                                                                                PhilS
                                                                                Date and time
                                                                                August 21, 2013, 7:29PM
                                                                                • I love that clip!!!

                                                                                  Commenter
                                                                                  Monty
                                                                                  Location
                                                                                  Sydney
                                                                                  Date and time
                                                                                  August 21, 2013, 7:54PM
                                                                                • Spot on from Boof, Broad disgraced himself, his team and the game by not walking. Even his own team mates thinking not walking when you clearly knock the cover off it is cheating. Doesn't what he does for the rest of his career, we will only remember that moment. Much like the Chappel under arm incident http://www.espn.co.uk/cricket/sport/story/141816.html#BUyRxcX7jJ6lZg0X.99

                                                                                  Commenter
                                                                                  DB333
                                                                                  Date and time
                                                                                  August 21, 2013, 8:18PM
                                                                                • DB333 - way to hold a grudge! Fair dinkum!

                                                                                  As Broad points out, many Aussies haven't walked either. I don't see the English management having a "Kevin Keegan-esq" dummy spit.

                                                                                  Commenter
                                                                                  Monty
                                                                                  Location
                                                                                  Sydney
                                                                                  Date and time
                                                                                  August 21, 2013, 8:22PM
                                                                                • it's just madness. he is wrong on so many counts. not the least, tactically, that Broad will rise if we get his dander up. we should ignore him.

                                                                                  And keepers should start flicking the ball to slip, that way batsmen who have nicked it would have to walk. wouldn't they?

                                                                                  Commenter
                                                                                  Peter Warrington
                                                                                  Location
                                                                                  marrickville
                                                                                  Date and time
                                                                                  August 21, 2013, 8:22PM
                                                                                • Remember whatever you like DB, but this incident is so far from the Chappell underarm incident, its not even on the same planet. Haddin admitted to hitting the ball to keeper and not given out. Will you remember that as well? I've moved on from the entire Broad incident, my comment is based on the fact that Lehmann should too. Especially as he's the coach. But I can see why he'd want the crowds to get up Broad, its just that the way he expressed it is a bit clumsy. Lets move on.

                                                                                  Commenter
                                                                                  PhilS
                                                                                  Date and time
                                                                                  August 21, 2013, 8:34PM
                                                                                • Geez. The Chappel thing was hit and giggle cricket in the true days of the pajama game.The rules were specifically written to allow him to do that and anyone who thinks there is a 'spirit of the game' in one day is laughable.

                                                                                  Nowadays, any Kiwi who goes the 'it wasn't in the spirit of the game thing' gets reminded of Murali getting run out in a test game by the Kiwis when he walked down the pitch to congratulate Sangakkara on his century. Sure, it was a run out within the rules but certainly not in the spirit of the game.

                                                                                  Commenter
                                                                                  markfawkner
                                                                                  Date and time
                                                                                  August 22, 2013, 1:54AM
                                                                              • Evening Jesse. Looking forward to this.

                                                                                I can't help but think that with good weather forecast the winning team will be the one that wins the toss.

                                                                                And, anything will be better than watching Rudd vs Abbott

                                                                                Commenter
                                                                                Monty
                                                                                Location
                                                                                Sydney
                                                                                Date and time
                                                                                August 21, 2013, 7:28PM
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