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Victoria

Victorian Parliament: November 26 2013

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Adrian Lowe: That concludes our coverage of the Victorian Legislative Assembly this afternoon. Thanks for joining us.

Richard Willingham: Question Time is over, the house is moving on to government business. 

Farrah Tomazin: "I can understand full well that what's gone on today isn't the best reflection of parliament, but we had to use mechanisms available to us," Jacinta Allan goes on to say.

Farrah Tomazin: Ms Allan has also asked why Planning Minister Matthew Guy was in Geoff Shaw's office while the vote was taking place.

"What deals have been done?" Ms Allan asks.

Farrah Tomazin: Jacinta Allan, the Labor member for Bendigo East who was ejected for six sitting days earlier this afternoon, is holding a press conference.

She says the premier has put the parliament to shame by suspending James Merlino, the deputy Labor leader, and herself in order "to save his skin".

Richard Willingham: Speaker says the question is out of order. Then he does not recognise Andrews when he stands to raise another point of order.

Education Minister Martin Dixon is answering a dixer on the Gonski backflip.

Richard Willingham: Mr Andrews asks the Premier to confirm that he has had no discussions with any of his government colleagues about the Speaker's future.

Ms Asher moves a point of order, says the question does not relate to government administration.

Richard Willingham: Mr Andrews asks the Premier if it is true that Planning Minister Matthew Guy sought the Speaker's resignation earlier on Tuesday.

Speaker rules the question out of order.

Richard Willingham: The second question from Andrews to Premier.

"Did you discuss the resignation of the member for Bass [Speaker Ken Smith] with any members of the government?"

Louise Asher says that is outside the boundaries of questions for the Premier.

The speaker allows questions.

"I have had no discussions with the Speaker or anyone else about the Speaker," the Premier answers.

Henrietta Cook: Planning minister Matthew Guy has emerged from Geoff Shaw's office after what sounded like some very intense discussions.

Richard Willingham: The first question is from OL Daniel Andrews to the Premier.

Mr Andrews cites a radio appearance from Dr Napthine where he said he had confidence in Mr Smith as Speaker.

"On what basis does the Premier have confidence in the Speaker?" Mr Andrews asks.

Premier says the Speaker was elected and is doing his job.

Richard Willingham: Speaker and the government now have a clear majority with Merlino joining Allan on the bench for the next six sitting says.

Shaw again not present for the vote.

Question Time begins, to bronx cheers from the government.

Richard Willingham: James Merlino is now named by the Speaker. Louise Asher moves that James Merlino be suspended for six sitting days.

 

Richard Willingham: Vote to remove Jacinta Allan for six days

42 Noes (ALP)

32 Yes (LIBS)

10 Yes (NAT)

And Speaker Ken Smith votes to remove Ms Allan as it "reinforces his rights as Speaker''.

Ms Allan, who is due to go on maternity leave, will now miss the next six sitting days.

She will have to forfeit her pay.

Farrah Tomazin:

Richard Willingham: The bells are ringing; the vote is to remove Jacinta Allan. 

Geoff Shaw is not in the house

Richard Willingham: Deputy Speaker Fyffe has approached the Speaker several times. 

Jacinta Allan now moves a motion of no confidence, government does not grant leave, but Ms Allan says the gov do not have a majority either.

Speaker ask Ms Allan to leave. Ms Asher moves to suspend Allan for six days. They must have got Shaw back.

Farrah Tomazin: Labor trying to move no confidence motion. They want to test numbers. Still no Geoff Shaw though.

Richard Willingham: Labor frontbencher Martin Pakula says the government is now in paralysis because of the Speaker's defiance.

He says it is not just a matter of the parliament in chaos but also the government, because legislation is not being debated and passed.

Farrah Tomazin: Stating the obvious

Richard Willingham: Nationals Leader, and Deputy Premier, Peter Ryan says this is not the "village glee club'' there are standing orders that need to be followed.

Richard Willingham: Geoff Shaw is still not on the chamber.

Louise Asher says it is against the rules to raise the same point of order repeatedly.

Labor's John Eren, the member for Lara, interjects "there are no rules now, you have no authority''.

Deputy Labor Leader James Merlino says Labor would support the elevation of Deputy Speaker Christine Fyffe.

Merlino also says the government can move a motion of confidence in the Speaker to clarify his position.

Richard Willingham: There is a lot of interest of this. Apparently the parliament website's live feed has crashed...

Richard Willingham: Opposition leader Daniel Andrews is fighting back now.

"The rule books will not give you the majority that you need on the floor of this chamber.

"The only thing to do is for you to go.''

Richard Willingham: Geoff Shaw has left the chamber. Premier Denis Napthine is on his feet. 

"You [Speaker] were elected speaker by this house, you were elected unopposed,'' Dr Napthine says.

"You have upheld the rules and traditions.

"The opposition has taken on a deliberate strategy of disruption.

"This is an organised political stunt.''

The government is digging its heels in. 

Henrietta Cook: Labor says they are not being bullies and are simply upholding the democratic traditions of the Westminster system.

Richard Willingham: Dee Ryall, Liberal MP for Mitcham, says that in a normal workplace this behaviour from the Opposition would be considered "workplace bullying". She says this point of order should be thrown out.

Richard Willingham: Geoff Shaw is on his feet.

"This place needs a bit of dignity, you [speaker] need to do something about it."

Henrietta Cook: The lower house resumes.

Manager of opposition business Jacinta Allan to Speaker Ken Smith: "The only reason why you shut parliament down was because you got the nod from the Premier to shut it down."

Geoff Shaw is on his feet. 

Richard Willingham: Parliament has resumed. Speaker Ken Smith says he has read all the rules. He rules Ms Allan's previous point of order is not in order.

And we continue down the same track...

Adrian Lowe: The bells are ringing and our livestream has resumed.

Henrietta Cook: Frankston MP Geoff Shaw has left the chamber.

Adrian Lowe: Thirsty, anyone?

 

 

Henrietta Cook: Geoff Shaw has taken a phonecall and appears to be engrossed in deep conversation. He is still in his seat.

The Premier has left the chamber.

The Rabble

The Rabble

Adrian Lowe (live blog editor): These folk were once popular, presumably more so than our current lot of MPs

Henrietta Cook: The opposition is goading Speaker Ken Smith in the hope that he names and eject them. If Labor challenge the ejection, there would be a vote. Geoff Shaw has previously declared that he has no confidence in the speaker. If he votes with Labor, the speaker will have lost his authority in the chamber.

Richard Willingham: Deputy Liberal leader Louise Asher and Planning Minister Matthew Guy have both entered the Speaker's office.

Henrietta Cook: "You should start behaving like a man", manager of opposition business Jacinta Allan shouted at Mr Smith before he suspended the house for 30 minutes. Premier Denis Napthine is looking very nervous. He hasn't moved.

Richard Willingham: PARLIAMENT HAS BEEN SUSPENDED. Deputy Speaker Christine Fyffe follows Mr Smith into his chamber.

Henrietta Cook: Speaker Ken Smith suspends house again. 

Henrietta Cook: Speaker Ken Smith throws out the Opposition's point of order again.

It has now been 44 minutes since Question Time began. Farcical scenes in state parliament. 

Henrietta Cook: "You are an embarrassment and should resign immediately," Shadow Treasurer Tim Pallas shouts into the microphone, looking at Mr Smith.

Dennis Denuto (Tiriel Mora) in action.

Dennis Denuto (Tiriel Mora) in action.

Richard Willingham: Argument of the day goes to Treasurer Michael O'Brien who said Labor is behaving like The Castle's Dennis Denuto.

Mr O'Brien says Labor's push for a vote is based on "the vibe''.

Richard Willingham: Shadow Treasurer Tim Pallas shouts: "You can no longer be called HONOURABLE Speaker..." 

Henrietta Cook: Geoff Shaw leans over and has a quiet word with Nationals MP Tim Bull. Treasurer Michael O'Brien stands up to speak but we can't hear a word due to the shouting in the chamber. 

Richard Willingham: Speaker Ken Smith: "This is outrageous behaviour."

Richard Willingham: Both Geoff Shaw and Premier Denis Napthine are sitting quietly throughout the chaos. 

Henrietta Cook: Government continues to argue that it would be against standing orders for a vote to be held.

Geoff Shaw picks up a book and begins to look through it — perhaps it's the standing orders?

Richard Willingham: Deputy Premier Peter Ryan argues if there a vote, it would be in breach of standing orders. 

Meanwhile all seats in the public and press galleries are full. Greens Leader Greg Barber from the upper house watches on.

Geoff Shaw remains calm in the back row, playing on his phone as arguments are heard.

Henrietta Cook: Jacinta Allan calls Ken Smith a "coward."

"You would prefer to see the parliament descend into a farce rather than test your authority."

Richard Willingham: Labor cannot simply call a no confidence in the Speaker without leave because there is no parliamentary mechanism for that.

Richard Willingham: Jacinta Allan remains on her feet, says there is a motion of no confidence in her name. She wants it tested, saying it would "resolve" the standoff. 

"Your history of bias[ed] rulings has lead us to this point,'' Ms Allan says.

"It is not the Opposition's fault that you have lost confidence, it is your own behaviour.''

Henrietta Cook: Minister for Community Services Mary Wooldridge gets up to answer Andrew McIntosh's question. Opposition members shout. It's impossible to hear.

Jacinta Allan refuses to sit down. Ken Smith won't throw her out. He reminds the Opposition that everything is being recorded.

Richard Willingham: Parliament is now in chaos. Speaker ignores Ms Allan and give the call to the Liberal member for Kew, Andrew McIntosh for Question Time. He cannot be heard. 

Allan on her feet, Speaker on his feet.

"I have rejected your point of order, I have ruled it out of order,'' Smith says.

This is a rabble.

Henrietta Cook: Speaker: I don't up hold the point of order.

"What's your point of order," he asks manager of opposition business Jacinta Allan.

A Labor backbencher shouts at Mr Smith: "Resign".

Richard Willingham: Treasurer Michael O'Brien says Speaker Smith was elected unopposed at the start of the parliament. He urges the Speaker to uphold the standing orders and throw out Ms Allan's position.

Shadow Treasurer Tim Pallas says Labor wants a statement from Speaker about how he still has authority.

"This parliament deserves a response,'' Mr Pallas said.

Henrietta Cook: Altona MP Jill Hennessy says Mr Smith does not have the support of the majority of members in the chamber.

"It is incredibly undemocratic to have a question time when the majority of people don't support you."

The mood in parliament is subdued, the packed gallery looks on in wonder. Geoff Shaw is looking down at his phone. 

Richard Willingham: Competing points of order on whether Ms Allan's point of order is in fact a point of order (understand?)

James Merlino, Labor's deputy leader, says Mr Smith does not have majority support in the parlaiment. Coalition MPs are yelling out "wrong''.

Neale Burgess from the Libs up now.

Henrietta Cook: Opposition leader Daniel Andrews says Victorians deserve answers from Speaker Ken Smith.

"All Victorians are entitled to a response from you in relation to the fact that you have clearly lost a majority of support on the floor of this chamber."

Richard Willingham: Jacinta Allan continues to ask the Speaker if he will test the numbers, she says Mr Smith's position is "untenable".

Ms Allan says Smith "took his bat and ball home'' last session.

Attorney-General argues that Ms Allan's point of order is in fact out of order.

Henrietta Cook: Deputy Liberal leader Louise Asher, who runs government business, says a point of order is not an opportunity to ask the Speaker a specific question. "Questions are not able to be posed to you," she says.

Richard Willingham: Bendigo East Labor MP Jacinta Allan is on her feet, asking Speaker Ken Smith about his reflection on his position.

Richard Willingham: Geoff Shaw not in parliament for opening prayers, arrives after prayers.

Richard Willingham: Labor confirms that Fiona Richardson WILL be granted a pair for parliament. MPs are now filing in as the bells ring.

The bells have rung. Question time is about to start.

Richard Willingham: If Question Time goes ahead, it's likely there will be some commentary on the Gonski deal being torn up.

Henrietta Cook: Did anyone bring popcorn?

 

 

Richard Willingham: Good afternoon folks, all is set for Parliament to resume at 2pm.

There is still no clear indication of how the standoff between Speaker Ken Smith and Independent Geoff Shaw will play out.

Labor is promising to resume its tactics from a fortnight ago.

 

Richard Willingham: Retirement watch:

 

The state government is controversially considering whether it will continue to grant a pair for a Labor MP who is undergoing treatment for cancer.

Up until now, Northcote MP Fiona Richardson had been granted a pair while she was treated for breast cancer.

Government whip Bill Tilley emerged from the party room shortly before 11.30am on Tuesday and said "negotiations were continuing" in regards to Ms Richardson.

More details here.

 

Geoff Shaw arrived at Parliament today sporting a baseball cap.

Independent MP Geoff Shaw arrives at State Parliament.

Independent MP Geoff Shaw arrives at State Parliament. Photo: Wayne Taylor

Farrah Tomazin: Politicians have managed to unite for White Ribbon Day.

 

 

Henrietta Cook: Rogue independent Frankston MP Geoff Shaw still does not support speaker Ken Smith.

Manager of government business Louise Asher said she had no idea what would happen in State Parliament when it resumes today after a two-week suspension.

You can read more here.

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  • Great viewing watching the member for Mornington(sitting behind Mr Napthine) picking wax from his ear and flicking on the floor. Is this contempt of parliament?

    Commenter
    Alex
    Location
    Frankston
    Date and time
    November 26, 2013, 6:27PM
  • Big backfire against Labor .. Ha Ha ha , 2 labor pollies booted out now the govt can get any bill through they like till Christmas at least, labor are a disgrace all they want to do is disrupt.

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    Strewth
    Location
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    November 26, 2013, 5:11PM
  • Anyone who expected either party to play this differently from what actually occurred this afternoon has never observed parliament. The LNP would do what the ALP did if they were in opposition and the ALP would do what the LNP did if they were in Government. That said, something needs to break the deadlock.

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    L1
    Location
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    November 26, 2013, 4:56PM
  • For someone who has only a passing familiarity with what is the truth and after her appalling behaviour in Parliament today, Jacinta Allan has the hide to say to Asher: you knew I was going on maternity leave next week and you have chosen to do this (suspend her)

    Commenter
    observer
    Location
    Date and time
    November 26, 2013, 4:52PM
  • Smith may have to be dragged kicking and screaming from his chair, only solution.

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    Piesnchess
    Location
    Mt Evelyn
    Date and time
    November 26, 2013, 4:50PM
    • It seems that state Labor were happy to act like flat track bullies when they thought they had the numbers. Never mentioning they were dependant on the vote of a member they have openly despised and even initiated the police investigation of.

      Some commenters are asking what deals were done with Geoff Shaw by the Liberals. They should also ask what deals had Labor thought they had done with Geoff Shaw that they were so sure of his support?

      Commenter
      observer
      Location
      Date and time
      November 26, 2013, 5:07PM
  • So, this behaviour from State Labor is much worse than anything Abbott ever did, or was accused of. Where are all the rusties piling into the comments section moaning about this mess then?

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    TED
    Location
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    November 26, 2013, 4:31PM
    • I think your memory of things political are roo-TED.

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      Brendan C
      Location
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      November 26, 2013, 4:45PM
    • Ted
      When did the Speaker in the Federal Parliament clearly not have the confidence of the house? And when did Labor defy the will of the house to cling to power?

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      rext
      Location
      Date and time
      November 26, 2013, 5:37PM
  • Well, all I can say is roll on to the next State election - then we can boot out the Government and what is a very poor excuse for a Speaker!

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    TM
    Location
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    November 26, 2013, 4:28PM
    • LNP is polling well ahead at the moment - can't see that changing

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      Adgy
      Location
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      November 26, 2013, 4:32PM
  • Labor may have lost this battle on the day, but Shaw has been shown to be the cowardly sycophant he is, Frankston will fall back to Labor next year.

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    Brendan C
    Location
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    November 26, 2013, 4:26PM
  • Wonder what it has cost the victorian ratepayers to entice the honourable Geoff Shaw not to be in the chamber when his bluff would have been seen for what it is?

    Commenter
    Arthur
    Location
    Mt Eliza
    Date and time
    November 26, 2013, 4:24PM
  • Thanks go to the Age, this is better than the cricket!

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    meinfrankston
    Location
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    November 26, 2013, 4:18PM
  • As apparent of a disabled son in DHS accommodation, the LAST thing I want is for the liberals to ram through their disability amendment bill today which will be a disaster for our loved ones. They don't care about us. They refused to consult with any of the residents on this.

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    Uncaring liberals
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    November 26, 2013, 4:18PM
    • Yeah, it looks like Labor & Geoff have cleared the field!

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      meinfrankston
      Location
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      November 26, 2013, 4:25PM
  • The labor party was the loser today. They acted and spoke in the most disgusting manner to provoke the speaker to name them believing they had the support of Geoff Shaw whom Daniel Andrews called a crook and a fraud. Labor where happy to use this to their own advantage in parliamentary technicalities but it backfired.

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    observer
    Location
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    November 26, 2013, 4:16PM
  • So now Shaw absents himself ! Has he been bought off or is he just revealing his gutlessness ?

    Commenter
    G Wiz
    Location
    Point Cook
    Date and time
    November 26, 2013, 4:12PM
  • Smith the Incompetent and Shaw the Coward.

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    Brendan C
    Location
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    November 26, 2013, 4:10PM
  • You haven't told us whether Shaw voted or how he voted on the Jacinta Allen removal.

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    G Wiz
    Location
    Point Cook
    Date and time
    November 26, 2013, 4:09PM
    • He couldn't vote because he wasn't there!

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      meinfrankston
      Location
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      November 26, 2013, 4:23PM
  • Great the way silly ALP Jacinta Allen was booted out & she will have to forfeit her pay , great stuff , looks like the speaker asserts his power , good riddance to her

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    GoStorm
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    November 26, 2013, 4:07PM
    • Go Storm
      That's not using his power, that's abusing his power. At some point the Governor might have to be consulted on this abuse of process by the LNP.

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      rext
      Location
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      November 26, 2013, 4:26PM
    • @rext
      These 2 were kicked out because of yelling & disruption, nothing to do with any breach of standing orders, in fact the Speaker has to keep order in the chamber .. Where's the breach (only in your mind) Next!!

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      napier48
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      November 26, 2013, 5:21PM
  • And these idiots are paid handsomely in terms or salary, perks, super, and more perks by the public to behave this way. And the media have the audacity to complain about footballers being role models?????? What are these morons doing? They occupy the highest office in the state (rule makers) and behave like twazzers, and meanwhile the young kids in high school are aspiring to be future leaders. What a complete joke. lets get real. The main reason most people get into polltcs is to see what they can get out of it- so good are the lurks and perks. Look what happened in NSW labor with Obed and co!!

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    andrew
    Location
    newport
    Date and time
    November 26, 2013, 4:04PM
  • And still not Geoff Shaw?

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    meinFrankston
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    November 26, 2013, 4:04PM
  • And where is the member for Frankston?

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    meinFrankston
    Location
    Date and time
    November 26, 2013, 4:02PM
    • Counting thirty pieces of silver in all likelihood

      Commenter
      oldtimer
      Location
      melbourne
      Date and time
      November 26, 2013, 4:09PM
    • Convinced by his former party to be absent for the vote. One has to wonder what 'carrot' was dangled in front of him.

      Typical of the Liberal Party - prepared to deal with people of Shaw's ilk...

      Commenter
      Cam
      Location
      China
      Date and time
      November 26, 2013, 4:13PM
  • I hope the upper house are doing some work because this rabble in the lower house aren't doing much today.

    Commenter
    StK
    Location
    Date and time
    November 26, 2013, 3:52PM
  • Napthine wants proper debate as adults?

    How about a proper debate over the stupid east-west link Dr Napthine? How about releasing the business case?

    Commenter
    pseudomys
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    November 26, 2013, 3:39PM
    • What like the business case Krudd never released for the NBN, the majority of us want the East-West link despite a small handful of feral protesters parked on a No Standing sign in Fitzroy..

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      napier48
      Location
      Date and time
      November 26, 2013, 3:53PM
    • If that's true then releasing the business case and having a proper debate should clear things right up!

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      east-west
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      stink
      Date and time
      November 26, 2013, 4:06PM
  • Labor are trying to force an election.

    Commenter
    Sarah of Carnegie
    Location
    Date and time
    November 26, 2013, 3:36PM
    • Hope they succeed!

      Commenter
      Anders
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      November 26, 2013, 3:50PM
    • Good idea I reckon. Then the people can judge the Libs performance in running down the justice system, proposing a multi billion tunnel we don't need, and now not being able to control parliament.

      Commenter
      G Wiz
      Location
      Point Cook
      Date and time
      November 26, 2013, 4:05PM
    • High time that an Independent sat in the Speakers Chair then fairness in debate will return. Smith is a disgrace and needs to step down before he and the rest of the LNP rabble are kicked out.

      Commenter
      MP
      Location
      Date and time
      November 26, 2013, 4:27PM
  • The Government is already going to struggle at the next election. Labor do not need to play Parliamentary games which damage the standing of their party and of the Parliament in the hope of some temporary advantage, they only need to show a bit of maturity and readiness to govern. These antics are not helping their cause.

    Commenter
    James
    Location
    Date and time
    November 26, 2013, 3:36PM
    • Sorry James, the Speaker is the one damaging the Parliament. He has no legitimate right to that position. That is perfectly clear because he doesn't have the support of the majority of the Parliament. Further, he is maintaining the position purely to protect his party which is a disgrace. Both of these things together mean he is trashing the Parliament. Labor should never accept this, despite your view to the contrary.

      Commenter
      Dags
      Location
      Date and time
      November 26, 2013, 3:46PM
  • We need to look on the positive side, if the lower house is continuously suspended at least the government can't pass any shonky legislation.

    Commenter
    EM
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    November 26, 2013, 3:32PM
    • Good one. So nothing can get done. No changes or amendments to legislation. Government Departments will be in limbo.

      Commenter
      Reality Check
      Location
      Date and time
      November 26, 2013, 3:37PM
  • A performance Abbott and Co would be proud. Did someone say Napthine ran from the Chamber? Maybe they can put a Slipper into Smith in order to remove him?

    Commenter
    Ted
    Location
    Hawthorn
    Date and time
    November 26, 2013, 3:19PM
  • I understand peoples frustrations about work not getting done due to this, but no one can be blamed other than Speaker Ken Smith.

    Commenter
    Mike
    Location
    Date and time
    November 26, 2013, 3:10PM
    • Surely the Premier has the ultimate responsibility to do something. How can he sit back and twiddle his thumbs and let his appointee take this abuse ?

      Commenter
      G Wiz
      Location
      Point Cook
      Date and time
      November 26, 2013, 3:36PM
  • All the people wingeing about politician's bad behaviour today don't know much about Parliament, or about democratic processes. This is a challenge to a one-vote majority, being played out with the available instruments on the floor of Parliament. This is how it works, and has for hundreds of years. This is what the mechanics of a democracy looks like, up close and dirty.

    Commenter
    just_one_click@hotmail.com
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    November 26, 2013, 3:09PM
  • Smith needs to acquiesce and test the support of the Assembly. If he does not have the support of the Parliament he cannot continue to chair proceedings. Why is it so difficult to recognise this?

    Commenter
    CamD
    Location
    China
    Date and time
    November 26, 2013, 3:06PM
  • Ahh good, looks like we're having an intermission. Time for a toilet break, grab a chic top and get ready for the grand finale.

    Commenter
    immal
    Location
    melbourne
    Date and time
    November 26, 2013, 3:04PM
  • Victoria is a constitutional parliamentary democracy. As a matter of democratic principle the question as to whether the Speaker has the confidence of the Parliament must be put to the vote on the floor of the House. End of story.

    Commenter
    Jo
    Location
    Port Fairy
    Date and time
    November 26, 2013, 3:01PM
  • .Appalling behaviour. And I bet they give themselves a hefty pay rise for doing such a dreadful job. What loathsome creatures these politicians are to accept such great pay packets with no outcomes or care for there constituents.

    Commenter
    Susan
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    November 26, 2013, 3:00PM
    • Why do we have such poor politicians in our country.
      All parties & all levels. Their behaviou is a disgrace.

      Commenter
      coolabine
      Location
      Adelaide
      Date and time
      November 26, 2013, 3:10PM
  • How much do we pay these people each year to behave like this. Explain again what value State Governments add in Australia? Not much going by what this lot (govt. and opposition) are achieving at the moment.

    Commenter
    David
    Location
    OutEast
    Date and time
    November 26, 2013, 2:57PM
  • They should charge the gallery admission for this. Deficit solved.

    Commenter
    brian
    Location
    Date and time
    November 26, 2013, 2:55PM
  • Glad to see our well earned tax payers money going to a great cause. Political corruption, dishonesty, and self interest leading to lack of vision, lack of direction, lack of accountability. Please show me one politician who does their job for the betterment of their community not for their self interested career advancement and superfund! What a joke!

    Commenter
    Shaun
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    November 26, 2013, 2:54PM
  • The whole lot need to grow up. I hope we not paying them for todays rabble. No work. No pay.

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    Sarah of Carnegie
    Location
    Date and time
    November 26, 2013, 2:53PM
  • What a wonderful and inspirational set of role models you are.
    I used to watch parliament in other countries and wonder at how bizarre and out of control they seemed to be and not it seems to be coming home to roost. How embarrassment, Effie.

    Commenter
    Lisa
    Location
    Melb
    Date and time
    November 26, 2013, 2:42PM
  • It's a hot day here in Melbourne - must be the hot air emanating from Spring Street. Where's Michael Clarke when you need him. A few lessons could be learned from the Ashes crickets.

    Commenter
    Hot air
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    November 26, 2013, 2:40PM
  • What's outrageous is Ken Smith's behaviour over the last three years

    Commenter
    MNR
    Location
    Date and time
    November 26, 2013, 2:39PM
    • What did he do, apart from not being part of the labor rabble ??

      Commenter
      Napier48
      Location
      Date and time
      November 26, 2013, 3:38PM
    • If you watch Parliament regularly, you'd know. It's got nothing to do with Labour or Liberal. It's got to do with the proper running of Parliament.

      Commenter
      MNR
      Location
      Date and time
      November 26, 2013, 3:49PM
    • Napier 48, yep, the rabble that is only one mere seat behind your rabble. LOL Napthine is gone, gone gone, so is Smith, once a chief headkicker himself.

      Commenter
      Piesnchess
      Location
      Mt Evelyn
      Date and time
      November 26, 2013, 4:48PM
    • Sorry Piesness, The silly labor party had 2 booted out giving the Coalition the number .. talk about dumb & dumber.. !! LOL

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      napier48
      Location
      Date and time
      November 26, 2013, 5:13PM
  • Thank God that most young people will not be watching this. What sort of example is being set here?

    Commenter
    St.Dunstan
    Location
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    November 26, 2013, 2:39PM
  • "Did anyone bring popcorn?"

    Very witty, Henrietta Cook. Bravo.

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    November 26, 2013, 2:05PM

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