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Residents say plane noise no problem, but freight would be

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Stephanie Anderson

Jerrabomberra resident Michael Ziebell checks the sky above Jerrabomberra.

Jerrabomberra resident Michael Ziebell checks the sky above Jerrabomberra. Photo: Rohan Thomson

Aircraft noise should not influence any government decisions on the Tralee development, Jerrabomberra residents say.

NSW Planning is expected to make an announcement on the rezoning of the housing development beneath the Canberra Airport flight path within a matter of weeks.

If approved, the $400 million venture by the Village Building Company would lead to 1000 homes being built south of Queanbeyan over five to six years.

Concerns about aircraft noise have been raised, but Jerrabomberra Residents Association president Michael Ziebell said there was ''no real issue'' with the present noise levels over his suburb.

''There are people who aren't happy with the planes that come over us at the moment, but realistically it's not a real hindrance,'' he said.

''A plane could fly over and we can keep chatting [and be heard].''

Though Jerrabomberra residents are happy with the present situation, Mr Ziebell said there would be a lot of opposition from several suburbs if the airport was to expand to incorporate freight operations.

''Tralee will be affected,'' he said. But there would be a lot of people in other areas who would be voicing their opposition. ''If they start [bringing in] freight, there will be more voices from Gungahlin than here and Tralee,'' he said.

But the Australian Airports Association said the opportunity to boost business at the airport would benefit both Canberra and Queanbeyan economies.

Chief executive officer Caroline Wilkie said if approved, the Tralee development would hinder any future airport expansion including freight and international flights.

''There is other land in the region which is more appropriate than Tralee to meet the population growth needs of Queanbeyan,'' she said.

''The Tralee land will be dramatically affected by aircraft noise. Regardless of whether those moving into the area have been advised of this fact, aircraft noise complaints would occur and put pressure on the Commonwealth government to introduce a curfew at Canberra Airport.''

Ms Wilkie also said that an approval by NSW Planning would contradict the National Airports Safeguarding guidelines, set up to protect airports from encroaching development.

''If the Tralee development is approved, it will prove a failure of the very guidelines that the NSW government signed up to in May this year,'' she said.

Canberra Airport's managing director Stephen Byron has previously said that he would be ''flabbergasted'' by any approval by NSW Planning.

17 comments

  • I don't understand his reasoning. A 737 full of people is alright but a 737 full of freight is not? Ignoring the fact that freight aircraft already use Canberra airport...

    Commenter
    Ben
    Location
    Canberra
    Date and time
    November 05, 2012, 9:10AM
    • This is typical of the JRA's selfish and illogical attitude on Tralee

      Commenter
      Not a Happy Camper
      Date and time
      November 05, 2012, 12:05PM
    • It's not obvious in this report Ben, but the issue with freight is the late night/all night flights. Freight is typically moved by aircraft late at night. If the late night noise then becomes and issue for residents, they then put on the pressure for a curfew - no more freight flights.

      Commenter
      Dee2
      Date and time
      November 05, 2012, 12:30PM
    • Ben,
      for your and others edification:
      Fact 1: Canberra Airport's plan is to increase the freight air movements into the airport. Their objective is a 24 hour freight hub. There is no commercial requirement for passenger aircraft to arrive at 2.00am, but there is no such commerical impediment from flying a freighter in at that hour. There is though considerably more noise disruption as a) residents are usually asleep and there is less ambient noise during the night time to mask aircraft noise.
      Fact 2: Freighter aircraft are usually older and therefore noiser aircraft, not 787 Dreamliners!

      As the article states residents of Jerrabomberra do not have any reservations about increased air activity during daylight hours. It is when their sleep is disturbed that they get antsy.
      (Declaration: former resident of Lilyfield NSW, where I could read the tyre pressure of passing 747s coming into land at Mascot!!)

      Commenter
      Liberte
      Location
      Canbera region
      Date and time
      November 05, 2012, 12:51PM
  • If Stephen Byron of the airport is so worried about the Tralee project why doesn't the airport buy the land and just run sheep or cattle on it. If the airport is worried about airplane approach and take-off vectors it would be sensible to buy the areas affected and never be worried by any development.

    Commenter
    Peter
    Location
    Casey
    Date and time
    November 05, 2012, 9:13AM
    • I understand the Airport has offered to buy the land and develop it as an extension of the Industrial estate and Hume to resolve this whole issue but the offer was rejected.

      Commenter
      Another Grumpyoldfart
      Date and time
      November 05, 2012, 12:07PM
  • A stable population would protect Canberra from ever more overdevelopment and sprawl.

    Commenter
    Australia's sustainable choice
    Date and time
    November 05, 2012, 9:47AM
    • If you look at Tralee from a number of aspects it is a very sustainable urban development. As Tralee is only approximately 10km from Parliament House; is no further south that Wanniassa, Fadden, Macarthur and Gowrie and sits between Hume and Jerrabomberra, it could legitimately be described as urban 'in-fill'. It is also adjacent to the defunct Michelago tourist railway, which could perhaps one day become a light rail connection to inner Canberra.

      Commenter
      Liberte
      Location
      Canbera region
      Date and time
      November 05, 2012, 1:01PM
    • Liberte, how convenient, you forgot to mention TRALEE IS ALSO UNDER THE CANBERRA AIRPORT FLIGHT PATH.

      Commenter
      Another Grumpyoldfart
      Date and time
      November 05, 2012, 2:25PM
  • The ACT Government, the Federal Government, Canberra Airport, the Federal Transport Department, aviation safety experts, and independent researchers have all warned against building homes at Tralee and under or close to the Canberra Airport flight path. Even the aviation white paper said it was a bad idea. So the JRA seems to be alone in supporting this development, and why? because the developers have promised the JRA land for public facilities in return for its support. (the land only, not the bricks and mortar) The JRA then expects Queanbeyan ratepayers and NSW taxpayers to fund these new facilities. More likely the land will sit vacant for decades. The JRA has confirmed this at its own and public meetings. So the JRA's attitude is to hell with its neighbours in Canberra we want vacant land for a future swimming pool and public hall etc and when Tralee residents complain about aircraft noise we will join their campaign and shove the planes onto our neighbours in Canberra.

    Commenter
    Another Grumpyoldfart
    Date and time
    November 05, 2012, 12:03PM

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