Robbed, unlucky or just simply beaten?
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That's the question that will haunt Canberra Raiders players and fans for the next 12 months as they come to grips with a heartbreaking exit from NRL premiership contention.
There was the dodgy first-half penalty against Josh Hodgson and then the Jack Wighton sin-binning that changed the game.
The Raiders busted their guts to get to their first preliminary final since 1997 and it was cruelly snatched away.
The pain was eased somewhat by five players being picked in the Australian squad and two in the New Zealand training group.
But the absence of Sia Soliola in New Zealand's extended group has Kyle Mackey-Laws fired up as he debates the reasons why the Raiders' inspirational main should have got a Test recall.
Join Mackey-Laws, Chris Dutton and podcast debutant Caden Helmers to talk about the Raiders devastation, Canberra Olympic's FFA Cup glory and some major ACT Brumbies' board-room changes.